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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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randomNick3229 wrote:please use Linux forums and chats with precaution at your own risk!!!
Most users developed an elitist complex over the years while so they won't help in 95% of the cases unless you truly read every single line of a program's manpage AND the console output of programs which is ridiculous to presume to anyone.
I can't say that this has been my experience here in the Mint forum. Sorry to hear you have bad experiences.
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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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Moem wrote:
randomNick3229 wrote:please use Linux forums and chats with precaution at your own risk!!!
Most users developed an elitist complex over the years while so they won't help in 95% of the cases unless you truly read every single line of a program's manpage AND the console output of programs which is ridiculous to presume to anyone.
I can't say that this has been my experience here in the Mint forum. Sorry to hear you have bad experiences.
randomNick3229 didn't write "Mint forum" in this context. But I wonder, why he did write this in the Mint forum. With 7 posts the history is quite comprehensible; nowhere I can see there, that he got an answer like described above. As far as I can see, man pages or console output are not even mentioned anywhere in the related threads.

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Cosmo. wrote: I wonder, why he did write this in the Mint forum.
You and me, both!
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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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Moem wrote:
Cosmo. wrote: I wonder, why he did write this in the Mint forum.
You and me, both!
For the reasons I experienced which are as mentioned above.

Freenode's ##linux channel can be this strict due to the currently available users and German message boards overall seem to be more of a place for these "elitist" users I mentioned.

Sure, I'm new to this board and I haven't yet encountered anything like that although not posting so much but overall I'd also guess that English forums in regards of Linux feel more friendly towards beginners.
A shame actually as my English still is not as fluent as my native language.

Anyhow, that's why I am also very cautious with interacting and prefer either just to use Windows or to try fixing things on my own.

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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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I am glad that you found this set of forums, and are cultivating it as an alternative to some of the more harsh environments.

I have lurked here for a few years as I explored distros in VirtualBox. I only recently registered as a member in order to be able to share a bit of my research with other noobies. It will be a while before I have the technical experience to be a full member, but I am seeing progress in my "hands on" efforts.

I have collected many URLs, but so far this is my favorite Linux community. I hope that you become increasingly comfortable here!

BTW, you English writing skill is better than the sloppy efforts of many native speakers.

:)

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don't dual boot

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from an old newbie = over 20 years I have dual booted with unbuntu and windose - mint and windose and others, combinations of xp,7,vista,8 and just now win 10 and mint and every time I finish in a mess that takes days or weeks to sort out = never do sort them out so resort to reinstall. my advise is to use separate disks { desktop computers } and install win on one and linux on the other and swap leads. or run from dvd or usb. Save yourself from lots of heart aches and head aches. hope this saves someone from making the same mistakes I have :-}

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Linux Management Basics: sources of information

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Greetings,

This post was prompted by recently working through an upgrade from LM 13 mate' to LM 18.1 mate' on an older IBM Thinkpad (issues described in post in 'wireless' section of forum). I needed to find solutions to these issues and also had a long standing goal of obtaining a better understanding of GNU/Linux inner workings. In looking for answers I discovered that much information was diffused across several forums. Digging for answers can be a time consuming process even with the search engines. However there were also some well organized free sources available on line that for me that provided understanding as to the inner working of GNU/Linux and also provided answers to specific questions.

A quick forum search here did not indicate any summaries or lists of such sources, thus thought it might be useful to start a thread on the topic for other folks such as me who are lower down on the learning curve. Following are three that have proven useful to this old dog. Feel free to add or annotate accordingly. Also open to suggestions as to the title of this thread to make it easier to access.

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1. The Linux Mint Release notes; https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_serena_cinnamon.php
I read them closely. Then repeated.

2. EdX free on line Linux course 101x; https://www.edx.org/course/introduction ... -lfs101x-0
While the main focus seems to be toward aspiring admin types, it also holds a wealth of information as to GNU/Linux background and inner workings, especially using the command line

3. Google's "Easy Linux Tips Project"; https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/
A wealth of useful and cleverly organized thoughts and tips.

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Hope this is useful. As for LM 18.1 now on the old IBM? Works well, again does the basics (email, web, and office utilities) which is all that it needs to do. Despite seeming to run a bit a little bit more slowly (18.1 install disc is about 2/3 larger in size than 13), overall it is a nice step upwards.

Best regards to all, olddog2
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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?: on line sources

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Greetings again, Decided to quickly peruse the posts in this thread for potentially useful on line sources of information. Once I had made the list, realized that it might be useful to place it on the forum. Discovered that a couple of folks posting on this thread had created lists similar to the one in my previous post. These are included mostly in toto with a reference to the original post. To keep things concise and reduce my workload, I did not include thread references to individual posts for the remaining information. Also, a few url references from the thread were not listed because of broken links, already being noted in my preceding post or coming across as beyond a noobies skill set (such as higher level unix admin, it is there somewhere for the advanced student). None-the-less, grateful thanks to all. :) Hope this is useful.


Online GNU/Linux resources gleaned from "What are your top tips..." 20170303

"How to Forge" tutorials for LM 12 to 17.1; https://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect- ... t-10-julia

Linux Mint User Guides; https://www.linuxmint.com/documentation.php

Linux is not Windows; http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

Tiny URL articles from forum; viewtopic.php?f=90&t=59925&start=40

Linux.org; http://www.linux.org/

Wikipedia; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint

Linux Mint tutorial, shell; https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/100

The Ultimate Newbie Linux Guide; http://linuxnewbieguide.org/content/cha ... what-linux

LINUX: Rute User’s Tutorial and Exposition, Paul Sheer, August 14, 2001; http://wireless.ictp.it/school_2003/docs/linux/rute.pdf

RENEWABLEPCS; https://renewablepcs.wordpress.com/abou ... x-newbies/

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List of useful links; viewtopic.php?f=90&t=59925&start=220
I'm still really new to linux entirely so I don't have very much to offer in the way of advice, but I have complied what I think is a good starting stack of bookmarked reference pages....

Differences between Windows and Linux:
http://www.brighthub.com/computing/wind ... /7724.aspx
Mint Tips & Tricks - viewtopic.php?f=42&t=86813
Tips for Mint 10 & 11 (most of them are still relevant) - http://www.techsupportalert.com/content ... lation.htm

Command Line References:
Linux Shortcuts - http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linu ... 31366.aspx
Linux Mint Commands - http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/244
Shell Stuff - http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linu ... arsely_rec
Interactive Command Line Training (not Mint specific but a good starter) - http://linuxsurvival.com/index.php

Security & Cleanup:
Antivirus & Defragging - viewtopic.php?f=90&t=31723
Loads of Security Information - http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-security.html
Getting the Most out of Bleachbit - http://www.howtogeek.com/116971/7-tips- ... for-linux/

Power Management Tools - http://linuxappfinder.com/system/powerm ... _type=desc

Comparison of some Desktop Environments - http://www.renewablepcs.com/about-linux ... me-or-xfce
*Currently I use Cinnamon as a "daily driver" and XFCE when my laptop is running on battery. I also found KDE-Plasma-Desktop to be very reminiscent of a Windows feel with a Linux twang if that's something you're after.

and of course Eye-Candy and Appearance Mods - http://gnome-look.org/
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Top 10 Tips for Beginning Linux; http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/0 ... linux.html

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viewtopic.php?f=90&t=59925&start=480

The Debian Handbook
http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/

Learning The Shell & Writing Shell Scripts
http://linuxcommand.org/index.php
Bash Guide and FAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/

Linux Foundation Online Course
https://www.edx.org/course/introduction ... -lfs101x-2
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Don't break Debian; https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

Glossary of terminal commands; http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guid ... gloss.html


That's all for now. Best, olddog2

p.s. While looking for urls, I quickly scanned for specific advice tips (non-random sampling!). The following items surfaced as being useful (probably missed one or two and in no particular order of importance): Read, read read; back up data; be careful with dual booting, be very careful using the command line, be extra very careful installing software from untested sources. And.....Have fun with it! Overall? It is not all that difficult.

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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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Newbies, don't be discouraged when things are difficult and you have no idea how to configure basic settings. There is a solution for you somewhere. It just needs to be found and that requires patience and google, google, google and help from other Mint forum members.
Once you find the solution, your computer will be truly yours, you will rule over it (compare to Windows where the system rules over you!) and you will be so proud of yourself for being able to learn new techie stuff. You will have the stability and reliability which can't be found with Windows and you'll be able to enjoy your system for a long time without any problems unless you create them yourself :D

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Mysichvost wrote:There is a solution for you somewhere. It just needs to be found and that requires patience and google, google, google and help from other Mint forum members.
I'd put these in the opposite order. There is a lot of Linux information scattered over the web and not all of it works for Mint. Best to stick with sources that are specifically aimed at Mint. I'd recommend asking here, and searching the existing forum topics, above searching the web with your search engine of choice.
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killer de bug wrote:
Doruletz wrote:Today's SSD drives have hundreds of millions, if not even billions of write over cycles in them
This is wrong in 2 ways.
The maximum number of write cycles before wear out starts is 3000 for the new generation. It was 5000 for the previous generation. This is linked with the physics behind it. A new generation means a reduction of the transistor size. But the use voltage is not reduced as drastically as the dimensions. Therefore the electrical stress during usage is increased. This leads to a lower number of write cycles.

Additionally, SSD drives age when they are not used in write or read situation. Meaning that if you just let it connected in your computer, without using it, it will still age due to the current going through it.

Therefore, new SSDs are not more reliable than old ones. And they don't have billions of write cycles. Only 3000 before it starts degrading.


Now, you need to understand that 3000 cycles on a 120GB SSD is estimated to be more than 15 years of normal usage. Most people don't write more than 10GB a day. But it had 30 years of lifetime with the previous generation. You can easily understand that we will face a wall quickly if it continues like this.
The good point is that by reducing the dimensions, you can put more transistors on the same area and therefore you increase the SDD capacity. This is turn increases the lifetime as you can write to more different places. So in a sense, new generation SSDs live longer because they have a higher capacity.

To be fully correct, we should discuss bad sectors and bad chips which impact SSD reliability. But this is way beyond today's discussion.

Doruletz wrote:in fact they are more reliable long lasting than the classic spindle and needle HDD Hard Drives, no moving parts, so they simply last longer...
This is a strong misconception. They don't last longer than spinning drives. Their failure mechanism is different. It was also observed that SSD drives fail in a much more critical way than HDD. You can't generally recover the data from a failed SSD.
HDD are slower but their reliability is higher than SSD. This stands if you don't let them fall of course. We speak about normal usage.
I have SSD drives that I have intensively used (on an almost 5-6 hours a day basis) for over 4 years and are still perfectly fine. On the other hand, I had HDD drives that broke within 1-2 years from purchase.
That's all I have to say.
One more thing: Even if you are right, the SSD prices have dropped considerably since their launch, today they cost just over $.50 (50 cents) per GB.
So even if an SSD dies, buying another is not that big of an issue as it used to be.
Last, but not least: any person that does not constantly back up all of his/hers personal and important files deserve to have them lost forever when a drive dies. (regardless if HDD or SSD)
What do I think about Window$??? Just take a look at my AVATAR...

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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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My experience with HDD technology has been different. I am using 4 disks, all Seagate Barracudas. The oldest one was manufactured in 2012 and is showing absolutely no errors in GSmartControl (yet.) There are no errors on the new ones either. The two newest ones cost around 3.5 cents ($0.035) per gigabyte last year. All of them run 24/7 and only get completely shut down 4 times a year for system cleaning. I have never had one go down in under 2 years life although I have heard of it a few times. I have always planned for five years life in an HDD.

It also helps to have clean power by using a good UPS.

Cheers!

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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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tdockery97 wrote:Only 3 tips: Read, read, and read more. On the Mint Forums, of course. Everything you could possibly need to know about Mint and Linux is somewhere on these forums. Read thoroughly the Newbie and Installation and Boot sections. Also the Hardware section for anything to do with the types of Wifi/Ethernet cards and Video cards that you have. You won't remember everything you read, but if you run into a glitch you'll have an idea where to look to find the answer.
The author makes an assumption of what I need to know and then states everything I need to know about Mint and Lunix is somewhere in these forums. How can the author know what I need to know?

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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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Tony.B wrote:
deanom wrote:Hi
I'm thinking of trying Mint for the first time, and have no experience of using any Linux distros. What are your top tips for me BEFORE my DVD arrives?
Possible topics:
Installation
Connecting to the Internet
Problem SolvingNothing strange happened
Please note that technical instructions will need to be pretty basic.
Hi Deano,

The biggest problem I had was that I stuck the DVD in my computer .... and nothing happened. I didn't know that I had to ask my computer (during the starting-up procedure) to please go and read the DVD.

Once I'd sorted that out, the installation process was very straightforward. The system discovered my wireless internet automatically and, once I'd entered the password, I was connected.

Dead easy, even for a complete idiot like me.
I say nay not an idiot but a person with wisdom knowing that they know nothing. Socraties???

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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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Urantian wrote: The author makes an assumption of what I need to know and then states everything I need to know about Mint and Lunix is somewhere in these forums. How can the author know what I need to know?
I think the statement was made more in the spirit of, "Seek and ye shall find." :)
At any rate, I didn't know anything when I started with Linux - I didn't even know what to ask about when I had problems. But I read a lot of posts on these forums just for fun and that helped me realise, "Aha! So that's what XYZ means..."
If I hadn't taken the time to read a bunch of seemingly unrelated posts and their solutions, I still wouldn't understand anything about Linux and I wouldn't know how to track down information on the forums now when I need it.
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benslinux wrote:I agree with Davinuk - don't dual boot if you're new. Dive in! Use a spare desktop or laptop and do a full install of Mint - keep another PC as it is with Windows or Mac so that you have a familiar OS to use while you learn Linux.
I would agree 90% -- except that i would install virtualbox and then place your copy of windows in the virtual machine. Be sure and install the virtualbox guest additions also. In Linux set your data drives/directories to be shared. Then you can run those old favorite windows apps during the year it takes to get moderately conversant with Linux.*

as time goes by you'll find yourself using windows less and less.


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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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guys im a linux newbie and have been flailing around the internet with various linux problems. i just came across this site http://ryanstutorials.net/linuxtutorial/ It has a very helpful tutorial for linux newbies. starting from the very basics. i think u guys will find it a fantastic starting off point. just doing my bit for the FOSS community :)

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Re: What are your top tips for a Newbie?

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Helpful tips, i think need to learn more seriously to get more of it.

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RTFM! Messing round, errr no for real RTFM! :)

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Thankyou. Its my first time to use Linux and this forum is very helpfull :D

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