[SOLVED] Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

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[SOLVED] Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

Postby mykec » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:20 am

Hello. A first time poster in this forum I am.

I am planning to upgrade from Mint 2.2 to Mint 4.0 sometime within the coming week or so.

Linux Mint is my first experience with debian-based distributions. Over the years while using Red Hat, Mandrake and SuSE I once read that debian-based distros need not be completely reinstalled each time a major upgrade is desired. By merely applying regular updates, old installations can be kept completely up-to-date with the new ones.

Is this really true of debian? And if so, does this apply to Linux Mint as well since it is a debian-based distro?

When I have and insert my Linux Mint 4.0 installation CD, will I be greeted with only an "Install" icon as I was with Mint 2.2? Or will I have an upgrade option too?

Thanks,

Myke
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Re: Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

Postby cutiger95 » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:27 am

My experience with ubuntu is that you are better off with a fresh install. However Mint may be a different beast entirely and I like you await an answer from someone with experience.

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Re: Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

Postby molom » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:49 am

mykec wrote:Hello. A first time poster in this forum I am.

I am planning to upgrade from Mint 2.2 to Mint 4.0 sometime within the coming week or so.

Linux Mint is my first experience with debian-based distributions. Over the years while using Red Hat, Mandrake and SuSE I once read that debian-based distros need not be completely reinstalled each time a major upgrade is desired. By merely applying regular updates, old installations can be kept completely up-to-date with the new ones.

Is this really true of debian? And if so, does this apply to Linux Mint as well since it is a debian-based distro?

When I have and insert my Linux Mint 4.0 installation CD, will I be greeted with only an "Install" icon as I was with Mint 2.2? Or will I have an upgrade option too?

Thanks,

Myke


That isn't possible. There is too much of a difference in versions. Its not like upgrading Windows or Mac. I suggest you back everything up and then install Linux Mint 4.0 Daryna. Use an external hard drive to back it up to make it easier or just burn a dvd with the info (If your computer doesn't have a DVD burner, use an external hard drive). If you want to wait you can also try the Linux Mint E17 edition.
I mean it! Don't try to upgrade otherwise your computer will either be really slow or won't even boot Linux Mint (I am sure of it).

Cheers,
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Re: Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

Postby mykec » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:55 pm

That isn't possible. There is too much of a difference in versions. Its not like upgrading Windows or Mac.


I wouldn't know about that as I've never upgraded a Windows or Mac PC.

I suggest you back everything up and then install Linux Mint 4.0 Daryna.


Well, that's what I've been doing all along since 1999 with RPM-based Red Hat, Mandrake and SuSE. This being my first time upgrading a debian-based distro I was hoping I wouldn't have to because I've heard that complete, fresh re-installs aren't needed with debian.

Use an external hard drive to back it up to make it easier or just burn a dvd with the info (If your computer doesn't have a DVD burner, use an external hard drive).


Yeah, I've got that much down. I just bought both a 500GB external and a 1TB external drive for great prices on Black Friday. :)

If you want to wait you can also try the Linux Mint E17 edition.


What's up with that?

I mean it! Don't try to upgrade otherwise your computer will either be really slow or won't even boot Linux Mint (I am sure of it).


This is in accordance with my experience with all my previous RPM-based distributions. Only once did I choose to merely upgrade rather than re-install with Red Hat a few years ago. The upgrade went smoothly. It booted just fine. It didn't run any slower than before. The only thing that irked me is that it didn't fully upgrade my existing system to what I would have had had I opted to re-install from scratch. I was left with a sorta kinda half-n-half setup that didn't deliver what I expected.

Wish I could get a little more technical insight into what actually would happen if I opted to upgrade from Bianca to Daryna instead.

Thanks!

Myke

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Re: Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

Postby molom » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:26 pm

I can't help you anymore, thats all I know about upgrading. I've heard in some other topics in Mint forums it isn't recommended, but thats all. Linux Mint E17 is another distro, that is based on the Daryna base and E17 is used as the Desktop Environment instead of Gnome, for more info check - http://linuxminte17.wordpress.com/

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Re: Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

Postby cutiger95 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:01 am

Gotta ask, when can I get my Minty E17 fix on. I am like a kid at christmas waiting for his present. I tried Geubuntu and loved it but it was buggy and ran like dog poo. I expect the Mint version to run a whole lot better. So any update on the week that you will release?

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Re: Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

Postby stafio » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:46 pm

I was hoping I wouldn't have to because I've heard that complete, fresh re-installs aren't needed with debian.


Do you have /home on it's own partition? I have done that, which really saves during an upgrade. You can preserve your /home and just overwrite everything else. Of course, you'll have to re-install/uninstall apps to get back to your current setup, but that shouldn't be too much trouble. I just scan through my menu and jot down the programs I've added.

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Re: Upgrading from Bianca to Daryna

Postby rfurman24 » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:22 pm

I can not speak directly to mint but dist upgrade from one ubuntu version to the next has gone well for me. You have to go from one to the next. In order to fill multiple gaps you must go first to the middle and then to the latest. I am sure there is a point when Distro version gaps are to different to upgrade.


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