Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
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Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
Hi guys. Thanks for the great work. I updated almost 100% successfully.
What i can see now is that in the grub menu i have entries for both linux kernels, 3.11 and 3.16.
If i start with 3.11 everything is fine, when i start with 3.16 cinnamon doesn't load right and i can see only the upper corner of the desktop.
Any idea?
What i can see now is that in the grub menu i have entries for both linux kernels, 3.11 and 3.16.
If i start with 3.11 everything is fine, when i start with 3.16 cinnamon doesn't load right and i can see only the upper corner of the desktop.
Any idea?
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
I just finished to upgrade, following Clem's instructions. All went fine. Very long but smooth upgrade... I have Betsy (Mate) fully working now!
The only "issue" (apart from the non-transparent background of Conky) is this:
How I supposed to do about the grub?!
Thanks to Clem and the developer team of LM!
*A warning: the LMDE2 upgrade turns on the default windows composer and this can cause conflict if you have turn it off, after installing Compton. It did happened to me...
Moreover, shutdown time is now significantly slow, slower than LMDE1.
Maybe would be good to open a new thread about the bugs.
The only "issue" (apart from the non-transparent background of Conky) is this:
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root@xflmde:/home/xfrank# update-grub
GRUB >= 2.00 has been unpacked but not yet configured.
grub-mkconfig will not work until the upgrade is complete.
It should run later as part of configuring the new GRUB packages.
Thanks to Clem and the developer team of LM!
*A warning: the LMDE2 upgrade turns on the default windows composer and this can cause conflict if you have turn it off, after installing Compton. It did happened to me...
Moreover, shutdown time is now significantly slow, slower than LMDE1.
Maybe would be good to open a new thread about the bugs.
Active Distros in my computers: LM21.1 (Mate,Xfce); MXLinux (Xfce)
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
This message appears during the upgrade but later dpkg should configure grub automatically. It did so in all my test VMs.xfrank wrote:Code: Select all
root@xflmde:/home/xfrank# update-grub GRUB >= 2.00 has been unpacked but not yet configured. grub-mkconfig will not work until the upgrade is complete. It should run later as part of configuring the new GRUB packages.
Of course, there's a chance some packages are left unconfigured due to some error. You can tell dpkg to configure them:
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sudo dpkg --configure -a
Whoops... what kind of conflicts? Graphical glitches, or crashes, or something else?xfrank wrote:*A warning: the LMDE2 upgrade turns on the default windows composer and this can cause conflict if you have turn it off, after installing Compton. It did happened to me...
That's really weird, I always noticed that shutdown is faster than in LMDE 1.xfrank wrote:Moreover, shutdown time is now significantly slow, slower than LMDE1.
Are there any warnings/errors during the shutdown sequence?
As the upgrade path is now official, there's a whole new subforum where users can create threads about upgrade issues.xfrank wrote:Maybe would be good to open a new thread about the bugs.
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
I just checked, the update-grub is still not working, with the same error message. I triedMonsta wrote:This message appears during the upgrade but later dpkg should configure grub automatically. It did so in all my test VMs.xfrank wrote:Code: Select all
root@xflmde:/home/xfrank# update-grub GRUB >= 2.00 has been unpacked but not yet configured. grub-mkconfig will not work until the upgrade is complete. It should run later as part of configuring the new GRUB packages.
Of course, there's a chance some packages are left unconfigured due to some error. You can tell dpkg to configure them:Code: Select all
sudo dpkg --configure -a
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sudo dpkg --configure -a
And if I type:
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root@xflmde:/home/xfrank# grub
The program 'grub' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
apt-get install grub-legacy
grub: command not found
But indeed I have a grub! It is working at startup in my dual boot win7-LMDE2 configuration.
Update: I've found a thread in the Ubuntu forum with (probably) the same issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2259462
But before to move/delete/install anything I would know the opinion of the experts...
Update: I'll open a new thread in the Upgrade Issues section. Update: I solved this bug in: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 4&t=196438
Last edited by xfrank on Tue May 19, 2015 9:36 pm, edited 7 times in total.
Active Distros in my computers: LM21.1 (Mate,Xfce); MXLinux (Xfce)
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
After the upgrade, both composers are turned on, the LMDE default and Compton. As a result, composing is doing strange things, like lacking of transparency in Conky and Appearance>Fonts not working. Just turn off the default composer, and all is fine again.Monsta wrote:Whoops... what kind of conflicts? Graphical glitches, or crashes, or something else?xfrank wrote:*A warning: the LMDE2 upgrade turns on the default windows composer and this can cause conflict if you have turn it off, after installing Compton. It did happened to me...
Active Distros in my computers: LM21.1 (Mate,Xfce); MXLinux (Xfce)
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
Monsta wrote:That's really weird, I always noticed that shutdown is faster than in LMDE 1.xfrank wrote:Moreover, shutdown time is now significantly slow, slower than LMDE1.
Are there any warnings/errors during the shutdown sequence?
I have a SSD. Startup is fast, even faster than LMDE1. But shutdown is slow. I don't know why. I cannot notice unusual errors during the shutdown sequence. Well, I will check again later more closely.
Update: shutdown was slowed by an external hdd connected via USB Once removed it, shutdown is normal again.
Active Distros in my computers: LM21.1 (Mate,Xfce); MXLinux (Xfce)
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
and.be00 wrote:Hi guys. Thanks for the great work. I updated almost 100% successfully.
What i can see now is that in the grub menu i have entries for both linux kernels, 3.11 and 3.16.
If i start with 3.11 everything is fine, when i start with 3.16 cinnamon doesn't load right and i can see only the upper corner of the desktop.
Any idea?
Something similar happened to me, but in my case, 3.16 doesnt even start. Monitor turns off, like if HDMI configuration was wrong.
By the way, why we have 2 different LMD2 kernel versions and what is the difference?
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
Reinstall your graphic drivers so that they take into consideration the kernel 3.16.and.be00 wrote: If i start with 3.11 everything is fine, when i start with 3.16 cinnamon doesn't load right and i can see only the upper corner of the desktop.
Any idea?
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
Sounds similar to what's reported here.daniel.martello wrote:Something similar happened to me, but in my case, 3.16 doesnt even start. Monitor turns off, like if HDMI configuration was wrong.
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
I have opened a own thread about it, but if anyone is using perlbrew:
It isn't working properly, so comment you perlbrew line in your .bashrc or .zshrc until that issue is resolved.
it should be fairly at the end and should look like this afterwards:
The problem is, that perlbrew alters your $PATH and if it is broken, you'll be stuck with an empty $PATH. With that, you'll find yourself with nice error messages like "ls: command not found".
(I hope this doesn't qualify as a crosspost, Everything directed towards the solution of the problem should go in the other thread, but if you're upgrading, commenting the line out saves your time to find other, more pressing issues).
It isn't working properly, so comment you perlbrew line in your .bashrc or .zshrc until that issue is resolved.
it should be fairly at the end and should look like this afterwards:
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#source ~/perl5/perlbrew/etc/bashrc
(I hope this doesn't qualify as a crosspost, Everything directed towards the solution of the problem should go in the other thread, but if you're upgrading, commenting the line out saves your time to find other, more pressing issues).
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
I noticed in the comments on the official upgrade tutorial that someone asked this question:
Would would be the difference between these two methods, in terms of final result?Is there all that much value in an upgrade? With a separate home partition, and a list of installed packages (`dpkg --get-selections > installed_packages.txt`) I can have a clean install up-to-speed in a hour or so; I can't help feeling that this would take longer and be more likely to throw up issues I'd have to dig into. Just throwing it out there as an option some folk might consider, if they've not already.
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
I noticed this message after my original post:
By the way, I have tried reinstalling the Intel drivers and various parts of x11 without any luck.
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I have seen this problem on 2 different configurations of Acer Aspire (2 different machines I own running LMDE), so I am going to post my hack solution. If someone has a better answer or ideas for troubleshooting the root cause, I am all ears! Because I saw this on 2 different machines, I am assuming this is a bug that will affect other people as well, and it was a bear to figure out something that worked.
On both systems, after the upgrade the video goes into some wonky mode where you are zoomed in to what you should be seeing in about the top left quadrant of the screen. This is true for login/Cinnamon screen as well as the terminals (ALT-F1, for example).
I was able to figure out that resetting the screen size with xrandr seems to fix the problem. You have to change the screen size to something common, then set it back to 1366x768. It won't work if you don't change screen sizes to some other value because xrandr thinks it is already the right resolution. So I ended up doing this.
Modify the /etc/mdm/Init/Default script so that the beginning has a couple of xrandr calls:
Best of luck!
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Update
I could never get it to be stable on the second computer, and I ended up trashing the desktop. I reinstalled LMDE2 completely and that works perfectly - stable and bug free.
The problem that is occurring with the video appears to be happening at the point in the boot sequence where Mint normally brings up the Mint symbol (the first picture that shows up in boot). In the upgrade, that picture never shows up. It just makes the text really big, and then it never recovers.
There are some other odd items that were not installed in the version I got to be stable, but that may be my own fault.
After fighting with this on two different machines, I can tell you that the results I got from a clean install were much better than with the upgrade.
Make sure you have a good backup before you start, because you are very likely to need it.
This might be a workaround for that problem. It certainly seems similar to what I am seeing on both my systems.and.be00 wrote:Hi guys. Thanks for the great work. I updated almost 100% successfully.
What i can see now is that in the grub menu i have entries for both linux kernels, 3.11 and 3.16.
If i start with 3.11 everything is fine, when i start with 3.16 cinnamon doesn't load right and i can see only the upper corner of the desktop.
Any idea?
By the way, I have tried reinstalling the Intel drivers and various parts of x11 without any luck.
...
I have seen this problem on 2 different configurations of Acer Aspire (2 different machines I own running LMDE), so I am going to post my hack solution. If someone has a better answer or ideas for troubleshooting the root cause, I am all ears! Because I saw this on 2 different machines, I am assuming this is a bug that will affect other people as well, and it was a bear to figure out something that worked.
On both systems, after the upgrade the video goes into some wonky mode where you are zoomed in to what you should be seeing in about the top left quadrant of the screen. This is true for login/Cinnamon screen as well as the terminals (ALT-F1, for example).
I was able to figure out that resetting the screen size with xrandr seems to fix the problem. You have to change the screen size to something common, then set it back to 1366x768. It won't work if you don't change screen sizes to some other value because xrandr thinks it is already the right resolution. So I ended up doing this.
Modify the /etc/mdm/Init/Default script so that the beginning has a couple of xrandr calls:
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#!/bin/sh
# Run as mdm user just before starting the greeter
PATH="/usr/bin:$PATH"
#ADDED TO FIX DISPLAY PROBLEM ON BOOT
xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary --mode 1024x768
xrandr --output LVDS1 --primary --mode 1366x768
...
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Update
I could never get it to be stable on the second computer, and I ended up trashing the desktop. I reinstalled LMDE2 completely and that works perfectly - stable and bug free.
The problem that is occurring with the video appears to be happening at the point in the boot sequence where Mint normally brings up the Mint symbol (the first picture that shows up in boot). In the upgrade, that picture never shows up. It just makes the text really big, and then it never recovers.
There are some other odd items that were not installed in the version I got to be stable, but that may be my own fault.
After fighting with this on two different machines, I can tell you that the results I got from a clean install were much better than with the upgrade.
Make sure you have a good backup before you start, because you are very likely to need it.
Last edited by jasonsmith on Sat May 23, 2015 12:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
Any suggestion on this ?
apt dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
modemmanager : Breaks: network-manager (< 0.9.8.2-1) but 0.9.8.0-5 is to be installed
ppp : Breaks: network-manager (< 0.9.8.8-7~) but 0.9.8.0-5 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
apt dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
modemmanager : Breaks: network-manager (< 0.9.8.2-1) but 0.9.8.0-5 is to be installed
ppp : Breaks: network-manager (< 0.9.8.8-7~) but 0.9.8.0-5 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
The usual request - post the output of
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inxi -r
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/linuxmint-debian/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/linuxmint-d ... t/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/linuxmint-d ... multimedia testing main non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bitcasa-release.list
deb http://dist.bitcasa.com/release/apt debian main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-webdesigner.list
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/webdesigner/deb/ stable main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com betsy main upstream import
deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free
deb http://extra.linuxmint.com betsy main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tox.list
deb https://repo.tox.im/ nightly main
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/linuxmint-debian/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/linuxmint-d ... t/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/linuxmint-d ... multimedia testing main non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bitcasa-release.list
deb http://dist.bitcasa.com/release/apt debian main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-webdesigner.list
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/webdesigner/deb/ stable main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com betsy main upstream import
deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free
deb http://extra.linuxmint.com betsy main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tox.list
deb https://repo.tox.im/ nightly main
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
Remove /etc/apt/sources.list - it points to LMDE 1 repos for some reason (and this file shouldn't be there since Update Pack 8).
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
I'm wondering if there is a 'bug' in Mintsources. I have updated to Betsy, but if I use Mintsources, it offers me the repo from LMDE1.
Do you confirm or infirm this monsta?
Do you confirm or infirm this monsta?
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
I can't confirm this - mintSources shows the right betsy/jessie repos for me.killer de bug wrote:I'm wondering if there is a 'bug' in Mintsources. I have updated to Betsy, but if I use Mintsources, it offers me the repo from LMDE1.
Do you confirm or infirm this monsta?
It gets the current Mint release codename from the output of this:
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lsb_release -sc
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It doesn't return the proper answer...
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KDB@KDB-laptop ~ $ lsb_release -sc
debian
Re: Updating existing LMDE 1 Systems to LMDE 2
Ok, so you have LMDE 1 info in /etc/lsb-release file. It is overwritten by mintSystem with the info from /etc/linuxmint/info file when the system starts. And that file belongs to either mint-info-debian-mate or mint-info-debian-cinnamon package, depending on your DE. So check if you have the latest version of one of these two packages.