32 Bit System

opensourceanonymous · Post by **opensourceanonymous** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:04 pm

Hope to be in the right place.... I would just like to thank Linux Mint for still supporting the 32 Bit architecture. Old computers can still be used and not thrown away because of Windows not being supported on them.

whm1974 · Post by **whm1974** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:38 pm

Not to start a flame war or upset anyone, but considering that low end and refurbished 64-bit systems are fairly cheap, why continue to stick with such old hardware? Even applications are starting to drop 32-bit versions or have already done so.

Schultz · Post by **Schultz** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:27 pm

It may not happen tomorrow, but the days of 32 bit are numbered.

whm1974 · Post by **whm1974** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:31 pm

Schultz wrote:It may not happen tomorrow, but the days of 32 bit are numbered.

And on live support.

BaltyRaven · Post by **BaltyRaven** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:18 pm

There are operating systems like Windows 7, 8, and 10 that still support the 64-bit architecture. But considering that you would probably need more RAM (random access memory) in the near future for accessing vital applications, it's not recommended for older computers to use more modern software that was made over the past 5 years.

Post by **Pierre** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:28 pm

there is now, some Ex Vista PCs that are now coming available:
- why would you *not* re-use them ?

in a few more years time, then some Ex win-7 PCs will be available:
- why would you *not* re-use them ?

not to continue that 'flame war' - - but some continents can get this hardware cheaper,
- than some continents, like over here - have to shell out.

and I've not even got around to mentioned "That M$ Tax" that is on every machine that you do buy.

Tomgin5 · Post by **Tomgin5** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:18 pm

Big laugh today. The Microsoft robocaller called today warning that my Office 365 license is expiring. 3 times today. I usuallly just hang up but this time I started whooping and hollering "Hooray!!", Never had it and never will.
4 32 bit laptops with with LM 18.3 Cinnamon running. Just as fast as a dozen 64 bit machines running 64 bit with similar CPU's. Just all single core on the 32 bit.

whm1974 · Post by **whm1974** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:45 pm

Tomgin5 wrote:Big laugh today. The Microsoft robocaller called today warning that my Office 365 license is expiring. 3 times today. I usuallly just hang up but this time I started whooping and hollering "Hooray!!", Never had it and never will.
4 32 bit laptops with with LM 18.3 Cinnamon running. Just as fast as a dozen 64 bit machines running 64 bit with similar CPU's. Just all single core on the 32 bit.

I wonder how many people fell for that scam?

Post by **Pierre** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:44 am

I'd also wonder if that Robocall was limited to just that one country?
or, if it will progressively roll out to other countries.

michael louwe · Post by **michael louwe** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:03 am

opensourceanonymous wrote:Hope to be in the right place.... I would just like to thank Linux Mint for still supporting the 32 Bit architecture. Old computers can still be used and not thrown away because of Windows not being supported on them.

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I think the coming Ubuntu 18.04/LM 19.0 will not support 32bit systems = EOL for Ubuntu/LM 32bit systems will be April 2021.

Looks like tech companies want to phase out 32bit systems because of the 2038 year bug ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

64bit systems require at least 4GB of RAM to run properly.

Post by **jimallyn** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:56 am

Pierre wrote:there is now, some Ex Vista PCs that are now coming available:
- why would you *not* re-use them ?

Had a 32 bit, single core Vista machine given to me just the other day, and installed Mint 18.3 XFCE on it. Probably give it to my brother who has been complaining for years that his old Windows machine is bogged down and hardly runs anymore. I keep telling him to put Linux on it, but he says, nah, it's too old, and it's all bogged down with viruses and such. I don't think he understands that installing Linux will fix all that. Well, if he won't let me revive his old machine with Linux, I'll just send him a computer with Linux on it.

151tom · Post by **151tom** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:45 am

JerryF · Post by **JerryF** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:55 am

michael louwe wrote:...
64bit systems require at least 4GB of RAM to run properly.

Not true. I have three that have Mint 64-bit and 2 GB RAM and all run "properly".

whm1974 · Post by **whm1974** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:18 pm

JerryF wrote:
michael louwe wrote:...
64bit systems require at least 4GB of RAM to run properly.
Not true. I have three that have Mint 64-bit and 2 GB RAM and all run "properly".

That depends on what applications you are running and your workflow. Although for 64-bit systems I do recommend having at least 4GB of memory if not 8GB.

151tom · Post by **151tom** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:29 pm

BaltyRaven · Post by **BaltyRaven** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:08 pm

michael louwe wrote:
opensourceanonymous wrote:Hope to be in the right place.... I would just like to thank Linux Mint for still supporting the 32 Bit architecture. Old computers can still be used and not thrown away because of Windows not being supported on them.
64bit systems require at least 4GB of RAM to run properly.

You could run a 64-bit version of an OS with less than 4GB of RAM (mostly for Linux distributions) and it could still run properly. Although you should run it with at least 2GB of RAM, depending on your computer.

DAMIEN1307 · Post by **DAMIEN1307** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:11 pm

151tom wrote "Paid $1.00 for this 10 years old with only 2.0GB memory and a Pentium D 950 and 64bit Linux runs excellent."

151tom do you always pay such extravagant amounts of money like this?...10 years old?,...when exactly do you think you will ever see your moneys worth from such an extravagant purchase?...lol...lol...lol...DAMIEN

JerryF · Post by **JerryF** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:34 pm

BaltyRaven wrote: You could run a 64-bit version of an OS with less than 4GB of RAM (mostly for Linux distributions) and it could still run properly. Although you should run it with no more than 2GB of RAM, depending on your computer.

Your last statement isn't making sense. Most of the chipsets in 64-bit computers can handle 4 to 16 GB RAM.

BaltyRaven · Post by **BaltyRaven** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:43 pm

JerryF wrote:
BaltyRaven wrote: You could run a 64-bit version of an OS with less than 4GB of RAM (mostly for Linux distributions) and it could still run properly. Although you should run it with no more than 2GB of RAM, depending on your computer.
Your last statement isn't making sense. Most of the chipsets in 64-bit computers can handle 4 to 16 GB RAM.

I said at least. Sometimes my words are mixed up.

JerryF · Post by **JerryF** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:53 pm

BaltyRaven wrote:
JerryF wrote:
BaltyRaven wrote: You could run a 64-bit version of an OS with less than 4GB of RAM (mostly for Linux distributions) and it could still run properly. Although you should run it with no more than 2GB of RAM, depending on your computer.
Your last statement isn't making sense. Most of the chipsets in 64-bit computers can handle 4 to 16 GB RAM.
I said at least. Sometimes my words are mixed up.

You meant "at least", but wrote "no more than". That's why I was confused.

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