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Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not, but here we go:
Here is my potato:
Browsing in linux mint is really laggy, opening a new tab or scrolling through one is a pain, my cpu is constantly on 99%* .
Now browsing on Windows 7 is better, I can open tabs, scroll, my cpu doesn't want to kill itself.
Is there anything that I can do make my experience on Mint better ? Or am I stuck with Windows 7 ?
At the time of the screenshot /\ everything was updated and here is the driver I'm using:
That's all,
Thanks.
* = Everytime I open a new tab, or open a browser
Here is my potato:
Browsing in linux mint is really laggy, opening a new tab or scrolling through one is a pain, my cpu is constantly on 99%* .
Now browsing on Windows 7 is better, I can open tabs, scroll, my cpu doesn't want to kill itself.
Is there anything that I can do make my experience on Mint better ? Or am I stuck with Windows 7 ?
At the time of the screenshot /\ everything was updated and here is the driver I'm using:
That's all,
Thanks.
* = Everytime I open a new tab, or open a browser
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
amd64-microcode isn't a driver as such, it's a CPU firmware update. That stuff gets put in Driver Manager in both Mint and its Ubuntu base because it's proprietary closed code.
There isn't much useful system info there, and screenshots are annoying and much less useful than text. Copy/paste this to the terminal and copy/paste the text output here:
There isn't much useful system info there, and screenshots are annoying and much less useful than text. Copy/paste this to the terminal and copy/paste the text output here:
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inxi -Fxz
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong - H. L. Mencken
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
Here you go:Hoser Rob wrote: ⤴Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:10 pm amd64-microcode isn't a driver as such, it's a CPU firmware update. That stuff gets put in Driver Manager in both Mint and its Ubuntu base because it's proprietary closed code.
There isn't much useful system info there, and screenshots are annoying and much less useful than text. Copy/paste this to the terminal and copy/paste the text output here:
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inxi -Fxz
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System: Host: vitor-note Kernel: 4.13.0-32-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.28) Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine: System: Sony (portable) product: VPCYB15AB v: C9007Z8D
Mobo: Sony model: VAIO Bios: Insyde v: R0160Z7 date: 12/22/2010
CPU: Dual core AMD E-350 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 6383
clock speeds: max: 1600 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
bus-ID: 00:01.0
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1366x768@59.97hz
GLX Renderer: AMD PALM (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.13.0-32-generic, LLVM 5.0.0)
GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.2.4 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler HDMI Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:01.1
Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-32-generic
Network: Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet
driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
IF: enp1s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
driver: ath9k bus-ID: 02:00.0
IF: wlp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 128.0GB (11.5% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: PLEXTOR_PX size: 128.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 110G used: 6.5G (7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.16GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 73.0C mobo: 35.0C gpu: 72.0
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 173 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 793.5/7578.6MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
That's not right - open a terminal and enter
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xfce4-taskmanager
Please edit your original post title to include [SOLVED] if/when it is solved!
Your data and OS are backed up....right?
Your data and OS are backed up....right?
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
That was extremely poor wording on my part, what I meant to say was that everytime I open a browser, a new tab or load a page , it goes to 99%. Sorry for the confusion.Flemur wrote: ⤴Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:42 pmThat's not right - open a terminal and enterand/or runCode: Select all
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which should also be in the menus.Code: Select all
xfce4-taskmanager
Anyway, here you go without me doing anything:
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top - 22:26:52 up 1:27, 1 user, load average: 1,29, 0,79, 0,69
Tarefas: 172 total, 1 executando, 171 dormindo, 0 parado, 0 zumbi
%Cpu(s): 12,7 us, 6,9 sy, 0,0 ni, 80,1 id, 0,2 wa, 0,0 hi, 0,2 si, 0,0 st
KiB Mem : 7760524 total, 5702300 free, 772656 used, 1285568 buff/cache
KiB Swap: 7972860 total, 7972860 free, 0 used. 6668476 avail Mem
PID USUÁRIO PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
12223 vitor 20 0 1687168 128340 80496 S 15,8 1,7 0:45.60 chromium-browse
1048 root 20 0 338148 59112 37920 S 12,5 0,8 2:33.22 Xorg
12285 vitor 20 0 512004 38076 29336 S 7,3 0,5 0:01.01 xfce4-terminal
11960 vitor 20 0 2053648 212420 113588 S 6,3 2,7 0:38.81 chromium-browse
1583 vitor 20 0 186648 23804 18932 S 1,0 0,3 0:21.27 xfwm4
12018 vitor 20 0 1020824 73672 43416 S 0,7 0,9 0:00.31 chromium-browse
12305 vitor 20 0 43224 3928 3348 R 0,7 0,1 0:00.12 top
8 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,3 0,0 0:07.24 rcu_sched
11948 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,3 0,0 0:00.41 kworker/0:0
11949 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,3 0,0 0:00.53 kworker/1:2
12131 vitor 20 0 1654092 87096 58136 S 0,3 1,1 0:02.46 chromium-browse
1 root 20 0 119696 5820 3980 S 0,0 0,1 0:04.58 systemd
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.01 kthreadd
4 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 kworker/0:0H
6 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 mm_percpu_wq
7 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:01.74 ksoftirqd/0
9 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 rcu_bh
10 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.01 migration/0
11 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.04 watchdog/0
12 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 cpuhp/0
13 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 cpuhp/1
14 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.05 watchdog/1
15 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.03 migration/1
16 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:06.21 ksoftirqd/1
18 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 kworker/1:0H
19 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.02 kdevtmpfs
20 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 netns
22 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:06.42 kworker/0:1
23 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 khungtaskd
24 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 oom_reaper
25 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 writeback
26 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 kcompactd0
27 root 25 5 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 ksmd
28 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 khugepaged
29 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 crypto
30 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 kintegrityd
31 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 kblockd
32 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 ata_sff
And here you go with me opening a new tab
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top - 22:29:50 up 1:30, 1 user, load average: 3,21, 1,59, 1,00
Tarefas: 174 total, 3 executando, 171 dormindo, 0 parado, 0 zumbi
%Cpu(s): 93,0 us, 7,0 sy, 0,0 ni, 0,0 id, 0,0 wa, 0,0 hi, 0,0 si, 0,0 st
KiB Mem : 7760524 total, 5708888 free, 761120 used, 1290516 buff/cache
KiB Swap: 7972860 total, 7972860 free, 0 used. 6697992 avail Mem
PID USUÁRIO PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
12853 vitor 20 0 1757256 199620 51024 R 82,8 2,6 0:03.48 chromium-browse
12829 vitor 20 0 1716812 113872 60688 R 41,6 1,5 0:01.98 chromium-browse
12694 vitor 20 0 2019812 177060 103764 S 40,6 2,3 0:06.20 chromium-browse
12854 vitor 20 0 1652972 87740 57216 S 24,4 1,1 0:01.63 chromium-browse
12855 vitor 20 0 1633920 76704 48068 S 4,3 1,0 0:00.79 chromium-browse
12766 vitor 20 0 2160688 65328 48944 S 1,0 0,8 0:00.25 chromium-browse
12752 vitor 20 0 1009480 65888 43104 S 0,7 0,8 0:00.22 chromium-browse
22 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,3 0,0 0:06.47 kworker/0:1
1048 root 20 0 339000 59992 38248 S 0,3 0,8 2:58.17 Xorg
8631 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,3 0,0 0:00.75 kworker/u8:3
12285 vitor 20 0 512628 38860 29404 S 0,3 0,5 0:03.51 xfce4-terminal
12410 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,3 0,0 0:00.06 kworker/1:1
12655 vitor 20 0 43092 3980 3364 R 0,3 0,1 0:00.18 top
12874 vitor 20 0 1684856 78796 55776 S 0,3 1,0 0:00.77 chromium-browse
1 root 20 0 119696 5820 3980 S 0,0 0,1 0:04.58 systemd
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.01 kthreadd
4 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 kworker/0:0H
6 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 mm_percpu_wq
7 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:01.78 ksoftirqd/0
8 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:07.86 rcu_sched
9 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 rcu_bh
10 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.01 migration/0
11 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.04 watchdog/0
12 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 cpuhp/0
13 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 cpuhp/1
14 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.05 watchdog/1
15 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.03 migration/1
16 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:06.25 ksoftirqd/1
18 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 kworker/1:0H
19 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.02 kdevtmpfs
20 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 netns
23 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 khungtaskd
24 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 oom_reaper
25 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 writeback
26 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 kcompactd0
27 root 25 5 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 ksmd
28 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 khugepaged
29 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0,0 0,0 0:00.00 crypto
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
Any chance you have hardware acceleration disabled in Chromium? It's in Settings in the Advanced section near the bottom.
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
Does the problem occur with Firefox?
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
install
once open make sure no programs are running and click the
hardinfo
and open it from terminal with hardinfo or in menu search for system profiler.once open make sure no programs are running and click the
Cpu Blowfish
under benchmarks. it helps if you don't move the mouse or open apps as benchmarks run. what score do you get?Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
It happens with all 'popular' browsers (chrome, firefox, opera, vivaldi...)
Chromium is the one who works the best, but still really laggy.
It showed me this:trytip wrote: ⤴Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:44 am installhardinfo
and open it from terminal with hardinfo or in menu search for system profiler.
once open make sure no programs are running and click theCpu Blowfish
under benchmarks. it helps if you don't move the mouse or open apps as benchmarks run. what score do you get?
This machine: 15.20
Intel Celeron M processor: 26.00
PowerPC 740/750: 172.00
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
Have you tried regressing your kernel to an earlier version? Unless I'm mistaken, that latest 4.13 kernel you are using has some of the fixes for spectre / meltdown, which may be slowing your computer. I know that I had to regress to the non-patched kernel as it made my i5 CPU feel like a down-clocked Celeron, and I'm not kidding. My web browser was laggy, opening websites was laggy, my FPS were halved or even worse when gaming. It was pretty bad for me on multiple computers so i just said screw it and regressed all my systems. Now my kids can actually play their flash games on their old Dell Core2 Duo system again.
May not make a difference for you but might be worth a try. Those latest exploits are not really a concern for me but you'll have to decide that for yourself obviously. I would much rather have computers that run like they are supposed to instead of being more "secure" and running like shit.
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
Hello Vitorviv
1. Off topic - Your "potato" has a very nice desktop & cool terminal ( how you did it?)
2. My netbook never run well with Windows 7 but ist surprisingly fast with Mint 18.3 (...as your machine with all the latest upgrades). As Opera has ended their support for 32bit last year, I was evaluate Chromium and Vivaldi - both run well - slowest of all browsers is still Firefox.
As you can see CPU and temperature are moderate.
Are there some programmes running in the background (e.g. Bluetooth/Network/Weather/Gmail...) on your computer?
For comparison:
-CPU Blowfish-
This Machine 1333 MHz 16.874
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz 26.1876862
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz) 172.816713
1. Off topic - Your "potato" has a very nice desktop & cool terminal ( how you did it?)
2. My netbook never run well with Windows 7 but ist surprisingly fast with Mint 18.3 (...as your machine with all the latest upgrades). As Opera has ended their support for 32bit last year, I was evaluate Chromium and Vivaldi - both run well - slowest of all browsers is still Firefox.
As you can see CPU and temperature are moderate.
Are there some programmes running in the background (e.g. Bluetooth/Network/Weather/Gmail...) on your computer?
For comparison:
-CPU Blowfish-
This Machine 1333 MHz 16.874
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz 26.1876862
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz) 172.816713
- top - 02:58:17 up 1:59, 1 user, load average: 0.93, 1.49, 1.46
Tasks: 165 gesamt, 1 laufend, 164 schlafend, 0 gestoppt, 0 Zombie
%CPU(s): 8.9 be, 6.9 sy, 0.0 ni, 84.0 un, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2 si, 0.0 st
KiB Spch : 2051044 gesamt, 220680 frei, 462416 belegt, 1367948 Puff/Cache
KiB Swap: 2084860 gesamt, 2084604 frei, 256 belegt. 1239824 verfü Spch
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM ZEIT+ BEFEHL
10815 msz 20 0 879832 208280 100112 S 14.6 10.2 4:29.94 opera
10923 msz 20 0 448328 103132 60816 S 2.6 5.0 0:33.80 opera
10934 msz 20 0 436192 98260 65912 S 2.6 4.8 0:29.10 opera
10940 msz 20 0 353316 77160 63436 S 2.6 3.8 0:23.12 opera
10952 msz 20 0 325652 69504 59072 S 2.6 3.4 0:21.57 opera
10895 msz 20 0 323088 66376 57400 S 2.3 3.2 0:21.52 opera
11017 msz 20 0 320016 68164 58256 S 2.3 3.3 0:21.25 opera
11123 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 1.0 0.0 0:00.30 kworker/u4+
11174 msz 20 0 8172 3664 3144 R 1.0 0.2 0:00.11 top
1827 msz 20 0 136900 34632 28196 S 0.7 1.7 0:34.28 clock-appl+
1334 root 20 0 122916 29168 21612 S 0.3 1.4 10:57.02 Xorg
1773 msz 20 0 84844 26608 23116 S 0.3 1.3 0:06.61 mate-panel
10783 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:02.92 kworker/0:2
11144 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.72 kworker/1:1
11153 msz 20 0 113500 32964 27752 S 0.3 1.6 0:01.08 mate-termi+
1 root 20 0 24120 5088 3748 S 0.0 0.2 0:05.85 systemd
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kthreadd
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System: Host: msz-Aspire-one Kernel: 4.13.0-32-generic i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
Desktop: MATE 1.18.0 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine: System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire one v: V1.25
Mobo: Acer model: Aspire one v: V1.25
Bios: Acer v: V1.25 date: 11/28/2009
CPU: Single core Intel Atom N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3192
clock speeds: max: 1600 MHz 1: 1066 MHz 2: 1333 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
bus-ID: 00:02.0
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1024x600@60.08hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 17.2.4 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-32-generic
Network: Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
driver: ath9k bus-ID: 01:00.0
IF: wls1 state: up mac: <filter>
Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8132 Fast Ethernet
driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 135.7GB (31.2% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_840 size: 120.0GB
ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: DataTraveler_2.0 size: 15.6GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 108G used: 38G (37%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1
ID-2: /boot size: 472M used: 73M (17%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.13GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-2
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 166 Uptime: 2:09 Memory: 858.8/2003.0MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
in control center > desktop settings > windows choose compton then logoff and back. your .xsession-errors file may have some info and what's causing that 99%
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
trytip
Exactly you're right there was something because of the graphics...
Compositing and all this stuff is off and Compiz deleted.
in control center > desktop settings > windows choose compton then logoff and back. your .xsession-errors file may have some info and what's causing that 99%
Exactly you're right there was something because of the graphics...
Compositing and all this stuff is off and Compiz deleted.
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
sarge816 wrote: ⤴Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:22 pmHave you tried regressing your kernel to an earlier version? Unless I'm mistaken, that latest 4.13 kernel you are using has some of the fixes for spectre / meltdown, which may be slowing your computer. I know that I had to regress to the non-patched kernel as it made my i5 CPU feel like a down-clocked Celeron, and I'm not kidding. My web browser was laggy, opening websites was laggy, my FPS were halved or even worse when gaming. It was pretty bad for me on multiple computers so i just said screw it and regressed all my systems. Now my kids can actually play their flash games on their old Dell Core2 Duo system again.
May not make a difference for you but might be worth a try. Those latest exploits are not really a concern for me but you'll have to decide that for yourself obviously. I would much rather have computers that run like they are supposed to instead of being more "secure" and running like shit.
Is definitely better now, scrolling trough pages go smoothly, and while opening new tabs does make my cpu spike, it's only for a second before it goes back to normal. So far is pretty good. I'm going to use it for a while to see if it's the same performance/or better performance than on windows 7.
I'm just not very knowledgeable in this matter, the kernel I chose to use was 4.10.0-42, was this a good choice ? Should I be using something else ?
Oh, and another thing, does this mean that I should never update my kernel ? Or is just a matter of the fixes for spectre/meltdown haven't been optimized yet ?
Anyway, thanks for the tip.
1. Thanksabsque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:29 pm Hello Vitorviv
1. Off topic - Your "potato" has a very nice desktop & cool terminal ( how you did it?)
2. My netbook never run well with Windows 7 but ist surprisingly fast with Mint 18.3 (...as your machine with all the latest upgrades). As Opera has ended their support for 32bit last year, I was evaluate Chromium and Vivaldi - both run well - slowest of all browsers is still Firefox.
As you can see CPU and temperature are moderate.
Are there some programmes running in the background (e.g. Bluetooth/Network/Weather/Gmail...) on your computer?
For comparison:
-CPU Blowfish-
This Machine 1333 MHz 16.874
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz 26.1876862
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz) 172.816713
- top - 02:58:17 up 1:59, 1 user, load average: 0.93, 1.49, 1.46
Tasks: 165 gesamt, 1 laufend, 164 schlafend, 0 gestoppt, 0 Zombie
%CPU(s): 8.9 be, 6.9 sy, 0.0 ni, 84.0 un, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2 si, 0.0 st
KiB Spch : 2051044 gesamt, 220680 frei, 462416 belegt, 1367948 Puff/Cache
KiB Swap: 2084860 gesamt, 2084604 frei, 256 belegt. 1239824 verfü Spch
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM ZEIT+ BEFEHL
10815 msz 20 0 879832 208280 100112 S 14.6 10.2 4:29.94 opera
10923 msz 20 0 448328 103132 60816 S 2.6 5.0 0:33.80 opera
10934 msz 20 0 436192 98260 65912 S 2.6 4.8 0:29.10 opera
10940 msz 20 0 353316 77160 63436 S 2.6 3.8 0:23.12 opera
10952 msz 20 0 325652 69504 59072 S 2.6 3.4 0:21.57 opera
10895 msz 20 0 323088 66376 57400 S 2.3 3.2 0:21.52 opera
11017 msz 20 0 320016 68164 58256 S 2.3 3.3 0:21.25 opera
11123 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 1.0 0.0 0:00.30 kworker/u4+
11174 msz 20 0 8172 3664 3144 R 1.0 0.2 0:00.11 top
1827 msz 20 0 136900 34632 28196 S 0.7 1.7 0:34.28 clock-appl+
1334 root 20 0 122916 29168 21612 S 0.3 1.4 10:57.02 Xorg
1773 msz 20 0 84844 26608 23116 S 0.3 1.3 0:06.61 mate-panel
10783 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:02.92 kworker/0:2
11144 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.72 kworker/1:1
11153 msz 20 0 113500 32964 27752 S 0.3 1.6 0:01.08 mate-termi+
1 root 20 0 24120 5088 3748 S 0.0 0.2 0:05.85 systemd
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kthreaddCode: Select all
System: Host: msz-Aspire-one Kernel: 4.13.0-32-generic i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.4.0) Desktop: MATE 1.18.0 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3) Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia Machine: System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire one v: V1.25 Mobo: Acer model: Aspire one v: V1.25 Bios: Acer v: V1.25 date: 11/28/2009 CPU: Single core Intel Atom N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3192 clock speeds: max: 1600 MHz 1: 1066 MHz 2: 1333 MHz Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0 Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.08hz GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 17.2.4 Direct Rendering: Yes Audio: Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-32-generic Network: Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k bus-ID: 01:00.0 IF: wls1 state: up mac: <filter> Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8132 Fast Ethernet driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter> Drives: HDD Total Size: 135.7GB (31.2% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_840 size: 120.0GB ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: DataTraveler_2.0 size: 15.6GB Partition: ID-1: / size: 108G used: 38G (37%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1 ID-2: /boot size: 472M used: 73M (17%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda1 ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.13GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-2 RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A Info: Processes: 166 Uptime: 2:09 Memory: 858.8/2003.0MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0 Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
Not much really, I'm using minty dark theme with papirus icons. I changed the panel color to something darker so it could better match the wallpaper and that's it. The terminal as far as I remember I left everything on default.
2. That are always running on background there is only redshift and mega.
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
4.10 is no longer supported, which means it will no longer get security updates. The current LTS (long term support) kernel available in the Mint Update Manager is 4.4.0-X, but you will not want to choose 4.4.0-112, as this has the same patches for the exploits as 4.13.0-32. e.g., possible slowdowns. Supposedly, 4.15 kernel version performs much faster and makes up for the slowdowns associated with the kernel fixes, so maybe just stick with what works until it's available on Mint. Or, you could learn to compile your own 4.15 kernel.I'm just not very knowledgeable in this matter, the kernel I chose to use was 4.10.0-42, was this a good choice ? Should I be using something else ?
Oh, and another thing, does this mean that I should never update my kernel ? Or is just a matter of the fixes for spectre/meltdown haven't been optimized yet ?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-sy ... 9639.shtml
I have reverted all my boxes to the 4.10.0-42 as well a week or so ago as it works so well for me and I plan on staying put until 4.15. Good luck.
Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18
First, regarding that Brazil specific Sony Vaio from the original post, the BIOS is out of date. Note the latest Version is: 1R0162Z7 dated: 06/10/2011. You can get the latest one at: https://esupport.sony.com/BR/p/model-ho ... ownloadTab
Next, I would guide you to trying modesetting through KMS as well. Scroll down for the information. From what I see at x.org, the kernel modesetting driver for the Radeon HD 6310 is good to go as well. See: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
Also regarding the part of the thread about:,
"4.15 is 7-9% faster than 4.11"
"Turning kpti on makes 4.15 1-2% slower than 4.11"
Mentionable, is that 4.13.0-32 is used (in my case) because of the features associated with fully supporting CPU features (in my case Kaby Lake; but again for Ryzen users too). Using anything less than 4.13.0-32 would be unsuitable as those kernels are unable to fully support the features in question.. but more importantly, I would refer everyone to the official Mint announcement on the subject: viewtopic.php?t=261343 that provides specific guidance; but I would stick to 4.13.0-32 if it were me (and in my case, it is).
Regarding this system.. running 18.3 on a 10-year old laptop is saying something now isn't it? I think you will really see some performance improvements (maybe, you're on the cusp in terms of whether this will work or not.. age of the system is key here) by dumping those awful Intel drivers and using:
Video modesetting utilizing the 4.13.0-32 kernel instead. Dump proprietary drivers, nobody needs any of them anymore! Let your kernel do that work.
Try it, you'll like it!
or alternately for the Radeon users,
Once done, run:
It should then report the driver as being: modesetting. If you had screen tearing, yeah that should be gone now too.
If after uninstalling the Intel (or whatever proprietary) driver, if you can't tell if you are (or are not) successfully running modesetting (from the inxi -G output), then run:
The last lines should look something like this:
You'll note that with this modesetting driver, things like Firefox and Chrome are less problematic and wow.. Google Earth will actually work too... (NOTE: Woo Hoo!)
If you are unfortunate due to the age of the system and must use slower and less effective proprietary Intel drivers, you can re-install them:
or alternately for Radeon users
My experience (especially since Mint 18.2) is that Kernel modesetting in 4.13.0-32 for video is dramatically better and stability is much improved, though on older systems, YMMV.
Next, I would guide you to trying modesetting through KMS as well. Scroll down for the information. From what I see at x.org, the kernel modesetting driver for the Radeon HD 6310 is good to go as well. See: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
Also regarding the part of the thread about:,
I suggest that the performance numbers are a popular misconception:sarge816 wrote: ⤴Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:06 pm4.10 is no longer supported, which means it will no longer get security updates. The current LTS (long term support) kernel available in the Mint Update Manager is 4.4.0-X, but you will not want to choose 4.4.0-112, as this has the same patches for the exploits as 4.13.0-32. e.g., possible slowdowns. Supposedly, 4.15 kernel version performs much faster and makes up for the slowdowns associated with the kernel fixes, so maybe just stick with what works until it's available on Mint. Or, you could learn to compile your own 4.15 kernel.I'm just not very knowledgeable in this matter, the kernel I chose to use was 4.10.0-42, was this a good choice ? Should I be using something else ?
Oh, and another thing, does this mean that I should never update my kernel ? Or is just a matter of the fixes for spectre/meltdown haven't been optimized yet ?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-sy ... 9639.shtml
I have reverted all my boxes to the 4.10.0-42 as well a week or so ago as it works so well for me and I plan on staying put until 4.15. Good luck.
"4.15 is 7-9% faster than 4.11"
"Turning kpti on makes 4.15 1-2% slower than 4.11"
Mentionable, is that 4.13.0-32 is used (in my case) because of the features associated with fully supporting CPU features (in my case Kaby Lake; but again for Ryzen users too). Using anything less than 4.13.0-32 would be unsuitable as those kernels are unable to fully support the features in question.. but more importantly, I would refer everyone to the official Mint announcement on the subject: viewtopic.php?t=261343 that provides specific guidance; but I would stick to 4.13.0-32 if it were me (and in my case, it is).
Regarding this system.. running 18.3 on a 10-year old laptop is saying something now isn't it? I think you will really see some performance improvements (maybe, you're on the cusp in terms of whether this will work or not.. age of the system is key here) by dumping those awful Intel drivers and using:
Video modesetting utilizing the 4.13.0-32 kernel instead. Dump proprietary drivers, nobody needs any of them anymore! Let your kernel do that work.
Try it, you'll like it!
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sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-intel
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sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-radeon
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inxi -G
If after uninstalling the Intel (or whatever proprietary) driver, if you can't tell if you are (or are not) successfully running modesetting (from the inxi -G output), then run:
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grep modesetting /var/log/Xorg.0.log
If so... good.. Reboot.[ 27.660] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[ 27.669] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
You'll note that with this modesetting driver, things like Firefox and Chrome are less problematic and wow.. Google Earth will actually work too... (NOTE: Woo Hoo!)
If you are unfortunate due to the age of the system and must use slower and less effective proprietary Intel drivers, you can re-install them:
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sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
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sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon