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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by pbear » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:26 pm

austin.texas wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:21 am
I consider the Cinnamon file manager (Nemo) to be much better than the Mate file manager (Caja). That is one of the deciding factors for me.
Would appreciate if you could expound on this. The eye candy doesn't mean anything to me, but this would be a good reason to consider switching. I have a Cinnamon test box (full install). Only significant differences I've noticed are that (i) Nemo lets you control automount of external drives from preferences, where that only can be done in MATE with gsettings in Terminal, and (ii) Caja has a right-click option to open a file as administrator.
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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by sdibaja » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:40 pm

side note: Cinnamon is created by Mint, Mate is not.
Mate is a separate project with just a few players in common.
The version of Mate you get in all Mint products is rather different (and in my opinion inferior) to the full version that we get outside of the "walled garden" of Mint.

You will find the same with the other desktops provided by Mint.
Not a "bad thing" but Different.

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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by austin.texas » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:28 pm

pbear wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:26 pm
austin.texas wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:21 am
I consider the Cinnamon file manager (Nemo) to be much better than the Mate file manager (Caja). That is one of the deciding factors for me.
Would appreciate if you could expound on this.
Concerning the appearance, I like the more compact toolbar arrangement in Nemo - where you can add and delete the icons you want or don't want.
I use the Nemo Image Converter plugin for quick and easy resizing. (I could use convert on the CLI, I know...)
It irritates me that Caja has such a limited Copy to: and Move to: right-click menu. Nemo is much more versatile in that regard, and I am used to using that function.
Other than that, there are quite a few similarities, true, but if you look through the Preferences you see that Nemo definitely has more options available.
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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by AZgl1500 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:39 pm

NEMO to me, emulates the "world standard if you will" of the Windows OS, and since I have been with WinDoze since its' inception, and fully indoctrinated in those keyboard shortcuts, and menu structures, Nemo wins hands down as "The Best" file manager.

Like Austin said, the Right Click structure has it all.

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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by pbear » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:29 pm

Thanks austin and AZgl.
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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by borg101 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:56 am

tenfoot wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:19 am
borg101 wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:26 pm
tenfoot wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:21 pm
Mate all the way :D Adopt Mate and he will become your best MATE :lol:

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Mate, while good and fairly easy to use, is too simplistic looking. Say what you will about Windows 10....it feels "modern". That's kind of how I feel about Gnome and Pantheon.

I agree, Mate is simplistic and that's why I like it.

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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by shawnhcorey » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:08 am

austin.texas wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:21 am
I consider the Cinnamon file manager (Nemo) to be much better than the Mate file manager (Caja). That is one of the deciding factors for me.
So, download Nemo and use the control panel to change the default file manager. The nice thing about Linux is choice. If you don't like the apps that come with an OS, change them.

BTW, you can download both Cinnamon and Mate. To switch between them, logout, click on the gear icon to change the desktop, and log back in. Try working a day with each. Then you can decide for yourself.
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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by Moem » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:51 am

shawnhcorey wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:08 am
BTW, you can download both Cinnamon and Mate. To switch between them, logout, click on the gear icon to change the desktop, and log back in. Try working a day with each. Then you can decide for yourself.
Using two different desktop environments on the same installation of Mint is not recommended, it can lead to... interesting problems. I would always recommend using two different separate installations instead, side by side as a dual boot or with one in a virtual machine.
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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by shawnhcorey » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:05 am

Moem wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:51 am
shawnhcorey wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:08 am
BTW, you can download both Cinnamon and Mate. To switch between them, logout, click on the gear icon to change the desktop, and log back in. Try working a day with each. Then you can decide for yourself.
Using two different desktop environments on the same installation of Mint is not recommended, it can lead to... interesting problems. I would always recommend using two different separate installations instead, side by side as a dual boot or with one in a virtual machine.
Perhaps at one time but not anymore. When Mate, Cinnamon, and GNOME 3 were forked from GNOME 2, they still used configuration files from GNOME 2 but not anymore. Now they each have their own configuration files. There should be no more interesting problems.
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Re: Cinnamon vs Mate

Post by AZgl1500 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:45 pm

Moem wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:51 am
shawnhcorey wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:08 am
BTW, you can download both Cinnamon and Mate. To switch between them, logout, click on the gear icon to change the desktop, and log back in. Try working a day with each. Then you can decide for yourself.
Using two different desktop environments on the same installation of Mint is not recommended, it can lead to... interesting problems. I would always recommend using two different separate installations instead, side by side as a dual boot or with one in a virtual machine.
Moem,
I think this is very solid advice. With VM now on this laptop, I am walking through different distros and getting a feel for each of them

Last night, I installed VM on my big Win7 desktop PC, 6 gB RAM and 1 TB HDD.
Installed several distros of ancient Linux stuff from 2012 and 2014 just because the ISOs were already on the HDD

Wow, is all I can say as to how well VM works. those old Linux distros ran just as fast being installed on the native machine.... did not have a way of doing any "Time comparisons", it was all just gut reaction to what happened when I used them.

Interesting thing about 2012 Elementary OS, it was no where near as refined as 18.3 Mint Cinnamon. :)

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