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Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by lsemmens » Mon May 21, 2018 7:30 am

I've managed to set up Remmina to control wife's computer with little difficulty, however, her machine is running Linux on the same network. So, who is 200Km away is having issues with a program on a Windoze machine. Can someone please give me a blow by blow on how I can remotely log into his machine.

I am running Mint cinnamon 18.4 and son ins on WIndoze 10.

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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by tovian » Mon May 21, 2018 8:01 am

IMHO...
In the short term TeamViewer is definitely the way to go. Over the long haul I would set up a "remote desktop" connection (RDP/Remina) since TeamViewer has become really "testy" about the use of their "free" service.
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by Pierre » Mon May 21, 2018 3:57 pm

for the short term - most folks would suggest using TeamViewer .. .

for the Long Term - something like Remina would work.
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by sdibaja » Mon May 21, 2018 4:05 pm

I ponder a bit. Remmina is in the Debian Stretch (stable) repos, but Teamviewer is not, not even in the testing or unstable repos. I wonder why.

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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by Pierre » Mon May 21, 2018 4:12 pm

it's probably that TeamViewer is not a supported product,
and anyway,, it's quite easy to install.
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by JerryF » Mon May 21, 2018 5:30 pm

tovian wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 8:01 am
...since TeamViewer has become really "testy" about the use of their "free" service.
I've been using TeamViewer to this day to help friends and it's never given me a problem.
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by Night Wing » Mon May 21, 2018 5:56 pm

I help my sister-in-law with her desktop tower computer and I use Teamviewer to access her computer. Teamviewer has never given me or her any problems.

BTW, my sister-in-law lives 200 miles from me. Her desktop tower computer has two hard drives in it. Her default drive is installed with 64 bit Windows 7 and her second hard is installed with 64 bit linux Mint.

On her computer and mine, linux Teamviewer is installed by using the Gdebi Package Installer. Whether she is needs help with her Windows 7 or linux Mint hard drives, I always access her hard drives with my linux Teamviewer since she has Teamviewer installed on both her windows and linux hard drives.

One thing I've noticed. Once linux Teamviewer is installed, the new updates to it come through the Update Manager in Mint so someone is maintaining it.
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by JerryF » Mon May 21, 2018 6:09 pm

Night Wing wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 5:56 pm
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One thing I've noticed. Once linux Teamviewer is installed, the new updates to it come through the Update Manager in Mint so someone is maintaining it.
That's because when TeamViewer is installed in Linux, a repository is added to "Additional repositories" in Software Sources.
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by tovian » Mon May 21, 2018 7:30 pm

I've used the free version of TeamViewer (Windows and Linux) for years - I think I started when it was first introduced. I never considered myself an abuser - but apparently the TeamViewer folks (or their auto-metrics software) think otherwise. For about a year I received warnings that I was a "suspected" commercial user. Then, a couple of months ago, they started disconnecting my sessions after about five minutes.

If they want to believe I was a commercial user then let 'em. Funny thing is, I never charged anyone a dime for helping over the phone (and using TeamViewer). How commercial can that be?
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by Neil Edmond » Mon May 21, 2018 7:41 pm

TeamViewer is easy to set up and easy to use. I've been using TeamViewer for years, but recently have been using AnyDesk more than TeamViewer. I find AnyDesk just as easy with less nag about free use. Might even be a little faster on my connection than TV.

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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by smurphos » Tue May 22, 2018 12:55 am

sdibaja wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 4:05 pm
I ponder a bit. Remmina is in the Debian Stretch (stable) repos, but Teamviewer is not, not even in the testing or unstable repos. I wonder why.
It's not open source and it's a commercial product, albeit they don't charge for non-commercial use - doesn't normally sit well with Debian.

Re non-commercial - I guess if you are using it to connect to one or two other machines on a regular basis they should be fine but connecting irregularly to a variety of different machines makes them assume you are providing commercial tech support...??

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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by sdibaja » Tue May 22, 2018 1:22 am

smurphos wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 12:55 am
sdibaja wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 4:05 pm
I ponder a bit. Remmina is in the Debian Stretch (stable) repos, but Teamviewer is not, not even in the testing or unstable repos. I wonder why.
It's not open source and it's a commercial product, albeit they don't charge for non-commercial use - doesn't normally sit well with Debian.

Re non-commercial - I guess if you are using it to connect to one or two other machines on a regular basis they should be fine but connecting irregularly to a variety of different machines makes them assume you are providing commercial tech support...??
I don't think I want someone/anyone monitoring my use. Insecure

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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by lsemmens » Tue May 22, 2018 2:18 am

Will Remmina work on a windoze box?

How do I install teamviewer in Mint?

I tried sudo apt install teamviewer and got package not found. I am very new to the Linux way of doing things, In windoze I'd just download an installer and let it do the hard work,
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by smurphos » Tue May 22, 2018 2:32 am

Remmina is compatible with RDP (windows Remote Desktop Protocol) so it should work in principle as a client to connect to a windows machine with RDP enabled. I'd probably use the official PPA rather than the repo version for this type of software - https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/wiki

Teamviewer being proprietary commercial software isn't in the standard repos. In this case you download and install the deb file from https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/

I believe the installation will add the Teamviewer hosted repo to the system so it will be updated following installation.

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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by smurphos » Tue May 22, 2018 3:08 am

Which version of Windows 10 does your son have? It looks like the RDP server is not officially available on Windows 10 Home editions - you need Pro or Enterprise. Workaround discussed here - https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/how-to-rdpw ... win10-home

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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by lsemmens » Tue May 22, 2018 6:16 am

He's running Windoze 10 Home, I suspect that there is some method of being able to make it work under that version, however, as a friend did send me a link to teamviewer some time back when he needed to show me how to do something. At the time I was running 10 home, so I know that it does work somehow. It I was in Windoze, I might be able to sort it for myself, but, in Linux, I am totally out of my depth.
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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by smurphos » Tue May 22, 2018 7:13 am

TeamViewer will work fine,, it's the RDP/Remmina route that won't if your son is not able to activate an RDP server on his Windows 10.

Edit...https://superuser.com/questions/661749/ ... iewer-work?

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Re: Remmina or Teamviewer

Post by tovian » Tue May 22, 2018 8:34 am

smurphos wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 3:08 am
Which version of Windows 10 does your son have? It looks like the RDP server is not officially available on Windows 10 Home editions
I believe that the Home version does not support the client (he can't initiate a connection to you), but it runs the embedded server just fine (you can connect to him as long as the setting is turned on).
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