Notice to Mint 19 Beta Users

[MintBean]

This is taken from the Mint 19 release blog post. Thought it was worth posting here as those running the beta might not check those blog posts out.

If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:

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apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer
apt install libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb sessioninstaller ttf-mscorefonts-installer
sudo rm -f /etc/systemd/logind.conf
apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" systemd
sudo rm -f /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla

[catweazel]

If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:

Of course, they don't tell us why we should do it or what the consequences of not doing it are.

[gm10]

Of course, they don't tell us why we should do it or what the consequences of not doing it are.

Simple rule of thumb, if you don't know what it does then just do it.
(about half of those commands are to disable the broken hibernation feature, the rest is to deliver some missing but deemed important packages - although re-installing the microsoft fonts is weird insofar as the release version doesn't even install them at all).

There are more differences between the release version and the beta than covered by those few lines by the way, in case of doubt just do a clean install, always good to start from a clean slate.

Thought it was worth posting here as those running the beta might not check those blog posts out.

Thought we'd be the ones most likely to read them properly but maybe you are right. Either way can't hurt to point it out.

[KBD47]

Yeah, the removing ms fonts things surprised me. I had to look on a fresh install of 19 to see if they were on it by default (they aren't).
In the past betas didn't seem to change very much so I frequently did not reinstall them. This is one I would definitely reinstall, especially Xfce and probably MATE as well as they needed work. Cinnamon seemed pretty good as a beta so that one would be a toss up, but not the first two.

[catweazel]

in case of doubt just do a clean install, always good to start from a clean slate.

That's good advice though I would recommend a clean install when moving from a beta in every case, but that's just my position.

[all41]

in case of doubt just do a clean install, always good to start from a clean slate.

That's good advice though I would recommend a clean install when moving from a beta in every case, but that's just my position.

Yes, I did the reinstall but I retained my /home partition, and had full backup of everything, including /var/cache/apt/archives
So it was quick, simple, and sweet.

[kyphi]

The ttf-mscorefonts are not installed by default but in order to enhance the inter-operabilty of LibreOffice they could very likely be installed by a user. It appears to be a pre-emptive security issue.

https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libr ... dbc-hsqldb

[catweazel]

It appears to be a pre-emptive security issue.

What on earth is a 'pre-emptive security issue'?

[all41]

What on earth is a 'pre-emptive security issue'?
Not taking a viagra?

[kyphi]

All those users of LibreOffice that get by without using ttf-mscorefonts would probably never end up in a position of having their system compromised by this ...
but those, who do install ttf-mscorefonts - perhaps because they have always used them - may strike an issue.

Hence, to keep Linux Mint users safe, no matter where their individual follies might lead them, this recommended security upgrade should be installed.

Preemptive to me means to create a safeguard against an undesirable possible consequence. Does your dictionary say otherwise?

[catweazel]

All those users of LibreOffice that get by without using ttf-mscorefonts would probably never end up in a position of having their system compromised by this ...
but those, who do install ttf-mscorefonts - perhaps because they have always used them - may strike an issue.

Hence, to keep Linux Mint users safe, no matter where their individual follies might lead them, this recommended security upgrade should be installed.

Compromised by what?

Preemptive to me means to create a safeguard against an undesirable possible consequence. Does your dictionary say otherwise?

Don't play with words. I referenced a complete phrase, not a word standing alone.

"pre-emptive security issue''

[kyphi]

I have given you an explanation, provided you with a notice posted on the Ubuntu Packages site, old but pertaining to a question asked earlier in this friendly chat and that is all you are going to get.
Over and out - this is getting nasty.

[catweazel]

I have given you an explanation, provided you with a notice posted on the Ubuntu Packages site, old but pertaining to a question asked earlier in this friendly chat and that is all you are going to get.

The link provided no information about any issue.

Over and out - this is getting nasty.

If you insist.

[Arch_Enemy]

If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:

Of course, they don't tell us why we should do it or what the consequences of not doing it are.

Catweazel. You look a bit happier than before. Find a good source of Scotch?
If so, pass it along!

[Arch_Enemy]

This is taken from the Mint 19 release blog post. Thought it was worth posting here as those running the beta might not check those blog posts out.

If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:

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apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer
apt install libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb sessioninstaller ttf-mscorefonts-installer
sudo rm -f /etc/systemd/logind.conf
apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" systemd
sudo rm -f /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla

What if you never use the hibernate function...?

[catweazel]

Catweazel. You look a bit happier than before. Find a good source of Scotch?
If so, pass it along!

I should post a picture of my fully stocked bar...



How about some 20yr-old Chivas?

[smurphos]

Yeah, the removing ms fonts things surprised me. I had to look on a fresh install of 19 to see if they were on it by default (they aren't).

The fonts were a default package in the beta isos, but broken, needing a reinstall to fix. I guess the issue was that installed as a default package the Microsoft EULA can't be agreed, hence decision not to bundle them at all with the stable iso.

Handy summary of whats been fixed during the beta - https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap/bl ... r/Fixed.md and what is still outstanding (under non-Blocking) - https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap/bl ... /README.md

[Pjotr]

This is taken from the Mint 19 release blog post. Thought it was worth posting here as those running the beta might not check those blog posts out.

If you are running the BETA, perform a system snapshot, use the Update Manager to apply available updates, run the following commands and reboot:

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apt remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer

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apt install libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb sessioninstaller ttf-mscorefonts-installer

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sudo rm -f /etc/systemd/logind.conf

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apt install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" systemd

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sudo rm -f /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla

See: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3597

@MintBean: thanks!

[MintBean]

Cheers Pjotr.

[KBD47]

The fonts were a default package in the beta isos, but broken, needing a reinstall to fix. I guess the issue was that installed as a default package the Microsoft EULA can't be agreed, hence decision not to bundle them at all with the stable iso.

Handy summary of whats been fixed during the beta - https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap/bl ... r/Fixed.md and what is still outstanding (under non-Blocking) - https://github.com/linuxmint/Roadmap/bl ... /README.md

That makes sense.
Lots of work done on these releases. The Xfce beta in particular was pretty bad, but I'm glad to see my beta testing helped and two issues in particular I suggested were in the fixes for it. I've always loved that about Mint, Clem and his team listens to their users. It's why Mint has been so successful.