Exactly. Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder when I first found Mint, with the Cinnamon Desktop, I liked what I saw so much I made the switch straight away.
Horses for courses.
Exactly. Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder when I first found Mint, with the Cinnamon Desktop, I liked what I saw so much I made the switch straight away.
Spot on. If these "reviewers" have nothing better to do than nitpick over tertiary aesthetic issues which are easily changed then I have much better things to do than read their tripe! I move on, like they should if they can't see past the end of their noses.smgordon1259 wrote: ⤴Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:53 pm You get a free operating system that allows you to change the look and feel. Menu, ALL, Appearance. it comes with so many choices, then you can go online and get more that will suit your taste for eye candy. Ugly? Please.
I think that some of the default apps have something to do with the user perception of the distro. GIMP, Pix, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, VLC, Rythmbox,Tomboy notes and maybe other apps are far from beautiful/modern in LM 19. Well, that's not LM's fault, but some people with less knowledge might think it is.smgordon1259 wrote: ⤴Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:53 pm You get a free operating system that allows you to change the look and feel. Menu, ALL, Appearance. it comes with so many choices, then you can go online and get more that will suit your taste for eye candy. Ugly? Please.
Linux mint 19 lets you use GTK2 >K3 as well as Gnome, a lot of nice themes out there.
https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/135/
https://www.mate-look.org/browse/cat/13 ... rd/latest/
https://mate-desktop.org/themes/
The OEM look is just fine by me, I changed a few things. Find your happy place and let the naysayers talk their fool heads off.
Oh, cut out the whining and do something about it instead. phpBB (the forum software), Cinnamon, MATE, Xfce and the software manager are all open source. If you don't like them, pull the darned source code and rewrite them the way you like them.
That's not whinning, it's feedback, not just mine, from several users comments/reviews about LM over time. It's useful to know what people like/don't like to improve things.catweazel wrote: ⤴Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:28 pmOh, cut out the whining and do something about it instead. phpBB (the forum software), Cinnamon, MATE, Xfce and the software manager are all open source. If you don't like them, pull the darned source code and rewrite them the way you like them.
Good grief.
Google is wrong I built them last week in my spare time - and if anyone who thinks Mint is ugly will believe that is true. Personally I think 19 is the best looking yet and I love the backgrounds and everything is a lot clearer - but then Icatweazel wrote: ⤴Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:52 pmtrytip wrote: ⤴Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:50 pm that's what google say
https://www.google.com/search?q=kernel+4.15+end+of+life
You have provided absolutely zero evidence to substantiate that claim.
I was going to write about the Mint design philosophy and the reason it is the way it is but then I remembered that in your opening posts in this thread you explicitly stated "I customized mine to look like GNOME, I'm happy with the results". You have now moved the goalposts so I'm going to leave you to it.And I know that if I don't like something I can solve this in 30 minutes by distrohopping, I did this a lot already. And forking or making pull requests are not in my plans, that's for developers.
If you see videos reviews, blog posts and read the comments you will see that some users that don't like how Mint looks, I thought most people knew about this, looks like I was wrong, that's life.
Oh, it's not looking like that anymore lol, it was just an example of a different possibility, now I put the left panel in the bottom to behave like a dock and change the theme to Adapta-Nokto, nice theme by the way, it goes well with the Mint-Y-Aqua icons.I was going to write about the Mint design philosophy and the reason it is the way it is but then I remembered that in your opening posts in this thread you explicitly stated "I customized mine to look like GNOME, I'm happy with the results". You have now moved the goalposts so I'm going to leave you to it.
You made an unsupported claim, and you persist in refusing and neglecting to back it up, then you try to shift the burden of proof to me. I may be 85 but I wasn't born yesterday, sonny.
Well, you are free to believe in me or not. I'm noticing some hostility so I will stop contributing to this topic, I hope some people find this topic useful, if any improvement resulted from it, it was worth it spending time here.... if not, well, at least I tried.
"Some" users will never like certain things you do. It's just the nature of the beast. The real goal is to do things that the "majority" of users are happy with. You also need to keep in mind that the first priority is actual Mint users. Not reviewers who changed distros every week because they don't like something. I personally spent a lot of time making sure the Mint-X theme we've used for a long time was updated for Mint19 so that long time users who loved that look would still easily be able to use.If you see videos reviews, blog posts and read the comments you will see that some users that don't like how Mint looks, I thought most people knew about this, looks like I was wrong, that's life.
Those black icons on a black background though...thx-1138 wrote: ⤴Fri Jul 06, 2018 4:02 am ...my beloved ultra beautiful MATE desktop below - 100% true™ unixporn material...
It took me years of experience / tweaking to learn to customize it that much heavily...but it surely paid back:
nowadays it takes me less than 3 minutes to replicate on a default Mint install
It's still more complex than an xfce desktop.