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Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by MurphCID » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:46 pm

Fonts, Icons, why can't we make it better looking? Granted Apple and Microsoft have ridiculous budgets for that sort of thing, but with all the brilliant talent out there, why can't we make Linux look better? I love LIbre Office, but its icons are ugly compared to others. For some that is a big turn off, so what can we do?

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by all41 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:17 pm

Other libreoffice themes are available in the repositories.
Search libreoffice-style
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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by gm10 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:32 pm

MurphCID wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:46 pm
so what can we do?
Easy, create your own theme if you can't find one you like.

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by whm1974 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:38 pm

What considered to be good looking will vary among various users.

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by JerryF » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:26 pm

I find Linux quite good looking. With Libre Office, there are other themes to use. The icons are great, and there are many other fonts to install.
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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by MurphCID » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:38 pm

I guess I am spoiled by Mac and Winders fonts and icons.

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by Snafu » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:50 pm

With just a little searching I can find find endless options for icons, cursors, themes, anything. Beauty might be in the eye of the beholder but there are choices to suit every eye available
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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by JerryF » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:30 pm

MurphCID wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:38 pm
I guess I am spoiled by Mac and Winders fonts and icons.
I'm a longtime Windows user and find that if I didn't have to use it for a couple of things, including at my workplace, I wouldn't miss the icons and fonts.

As for Mac, never had one but I must say of what I've seen, the interface is very good looking.
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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by linux-dummie » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:24 pm

Regarding the title of this thread, I'm glad my wife didn't say that about me!! For 18 years I've worked for her like a solid Linux distro, and she's never distro-hopped, so looks aren't everything if all you need is a reliable workhorse. I just wish I could run some kernel updates on myself (without surgery). And I sure could use some more memory....

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by jimallyn » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:33 pm

Linux looks fine to me. But even more important, it works fine. I mostly care about functionality. I don't care what the boot screen or login screen looks like, nor really, what's on the desktop. I know there are others who do care about those things though, and I see people talking about themes, icons, cursors, etc. on a fairly regular basis, so I know there's plenty of that stuff out there. You might look around a little more and see if you can find what you're after. And if you can't, maybe you could make your own themes and such and share them with the community? That would be awesome!
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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by lsemmens » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:58 pm

The only way I make linux "better" looking is change the desktop background. All the rest is just a necessary evil. I also try to keep the desktop as clean as I can with very few shortcuts.
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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by MurphCID » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:13 am

I am a font and Icon snob. I want pretty.

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by Moem » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:23 am

What does 'pretty' mean when you say it? Taste is a very personal thing.
Have you bothered looking at available themes and icon sets? I like the Paper icons, but you may not.
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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by chrisuk » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:56 am

Unless you spend your time staring at the desktop, or staring at the File Manager, most of what you see is down to the program you're using. How Firefox looks is down to Mozilla not Linux. I know there are limitations due to the OS, but compare say, Firefox to Vivaldi - both do the same job but look very different... Vivaldi perhaps being the "prettier" of the two.

So if you don't like what you see, I guess you could ask; "Why don't some programs put more effort into their GUIs for Linux?". Although I must admit that a dark theme with ePapirus icons and a Noto Sans font is pretty enough for me (Not on Mint, on Mint I'd probably use Mint-Y dark theme and Mint X Icons).
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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by CaptainKirksChair » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:00 pm

MurphCID wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:13 am
I am a font and Icon snob. I want pretty.
I know where you are coming from. I want my desktop to look nice. Mostly in case anyone else looks at it. I tweak it all the time. I install Cairo-Dock using the Alu them and Mac4Lin as a window theme.

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I use Cinnamon because it gives me lots of functionality. I've tried Mate, Xfce, and KDE but I like Cinnamon best.

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by MurphCID » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:38 pm

Moem wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:23 am
What does 'pretty' mean when you say it? Taste is a very personal thing.
Have you bothered looking at available themes and icon sets? I like the Paper icons, but you may not.
I have and none of them are as attractive as the Mac O/S or even Winders. But again, as you stated it is very subjective. I am quite the snob when it comes to how my desktop looks. I keep almost no icons on the desktop, I keep quite a bit in the taskbar but few on the desktop. I want others to look at the fonts and icons, and go; "Wow that is an attractive desktop", so they will be interested in using Mint.

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by MurphCID » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:39 pm

CaptainKirksChair wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:00 pm
MurphCID wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:13 am
I am a font and Icon snob. I want pretty.
I know where you are coming from. I want my desktop to look nice. Mostly in case anyone else looks at it. I tweak it all the time. I install Cairo-Dock using the Alu them and Mac4Lin as a window theme.

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I use Cinnamon because it gives me lots of functionality. I've tried Mate, Xfce, and KDE but I like Cinnamon best.
I like Cinnamon as well over the other two. I am not found of KDE or Gnome at all. I also tweak the desktop so it looks better.

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by ajgreeny » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:57 pm

Depending on what you mean by your fonts looking bad, have you checked the font-rendering settings?
I have no idea where they are in Cinnamon, but look around and you may find you can make a big change to the way fonts look.

If it is just more fonts you want, have a look at http://www.fonts101.com/ and http://www.dafont.com/ where you will find a huge number of possibilities.

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by AZgl1500 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:55 pm

Personally,

it don't matter what OS is under the hood, they all look alike to me.

I make the background totally solid black.... never anything else.

I hate those dock thingys down on the bottom, I want a straight MENU icon with a very few shortcut icons on the "TaskBar" or panel, whatever you want to call the damn thing....

I just set up a Dell laptop on Mint 18.3 Cinnamon and it is totally devoid of anything on the desktop except for a background of my sister's choice. it looks and works just like the Windows 10 machine that she is using, but of course, much faster, and cleaner.

from the vibes I am getting back, she is gradually getting used to the Linux menu structure and is loving how blazingly fast it is for her news pages and blogs that she reads.... she is a horse person, rancher, and doesn’t delve into much else.

I'm thinking that in a year, she just might go all Linux.... :D

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Re: Why oh Why can't we make Linux better looking

Post by JosephM » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:09 pm

linux-dummie wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:24 pm
Regarding the title of this thread, I'm glad my wife didn't say that about me!! For 18 years I've worked for her like a solid Linux distro, and she's never distro-hopped, so looks aren't everything if all you need is a reliable workhorse. I just wish I could run some kernel updates on myself (without surgery). And I sure could use some more memory....
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