Well see, that's where folks differ.
Whenever I have to help my wife on her Mac, I can't stand the look, and can't wait to get back to Linux.
Which I have looking my way, something I can't do on Mac.
Well see, that's where folks differ.
deepin is great, a very coherent design that extends to a lot of custom apps that come with it. Feels like a merge of Windows UWP design guidelines with Android icons and drawers. I haven't tried the latest version yet, last I saw was 15.6.ud6 wrote: ⤴Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:03 am New release of Deepin (chinese distro based on Debian).. just wondering if anyone here has tried it. I guess desktop isn't really portable, but if it has same flexibility of linux debian systems under the hood, maybe a good option for increased looks.
Seema that, just as we had OSs racing to get faster boot up times (and succeeded) we are now seeing a race for better looking desktop environs. without excessively using system resources (deepin supposed to be more efficient than ubuntu unity desktop, and unity is one of the ugliest things I've ever seen )
...looking like a cross between the Windwoes 10 menu and Gnome 3.
It isn't really a Qt based desktop. It's actually quite a bizarre mix of things. The window manager is a fork of an older version of Mutter. The Mutter plugin is a fork of an older version of Gala (from ElementaryOS) with Qt based stuff and applications on top. I'm not sure I've seen anything else put together quite like itIt's a Qt-based desktop and feels snappier than any edition that Mint has got with a memory footprint is a bit higher than Xfce but far less than MATE. Performance is flawless in common mode, the effects mode is a bit heavier on the requirements but looks very smooth.
Opinions are cheap. It's open source so claims of spyware would be easy to back up, yet I haven't seen that happening.
I'm so tempted but I feel like I spend alot of time checking distros and desktops just to come back to mint mate.. mainly because I'm used to it and can set it up how I like within an hour. I guess this is the same disease windows users have...
Maybe. But (and correct me if I'm wrong), open-source doesn't keep the devs from slipping something in when building the iso image, right? It could be largely invisible, unless someone literally successfully reverse-engineers every single compiled executable in the distro after installation and finds some nasty code.gm10 wrote: ⤴Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:30 amOpinions are cheap. It's open source so claims of spyware would be easy to back up, yet I haven't seen that happening.
I haven't reviewed the source myself so I don't have an opinion other than the faint idea that "somebody else would have found it by now", considering that distro has been around since 2004.
It doesn't even prevent them from building from a different source. But the same goes for every binary out there. It's what makes using PPAs so very risky, too. If you download a binary from a well established distribution which bases their business and the income of their employees on their reputation, then at least there's a big risk involved for them in cheating everybody and losing that reputation when someone finds out. If you download from some PPA you are trusting some anonymous individual who risks nothing by cheating you.Fred Barclay wrote: ⤴Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:29 pm Maybe. But (and correct me if I'm wrong), open-source doesn't keep the devs from slipping something in when building the iso image, right?
by andyOI love that our desktops are so easy to customise to our whims and preferences
I was just about to install Deepin, and was reading the same discussions (with feedback from Deeping developers). My conclusions are:
Good point.ud6 wrote: ⤴Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:03 am (regarding deepin)
I was just about to install Deepin, and was reading the same discussions (with feedback from Deeping developers). My conclusions are:
1. It is NOT apparent that deepin is spyware and probably there is some unfair negative attitudes because it is chinese based.
2. However, it DOES collect user information (like Windows/google does)
Unfortunately, that desire to collect user data in the background isn't something I like particularly if using for marketing. Seems a shame, as Deepin looks to be pushing forward the frontiers of good looking but efficient desktops.
links on these discussions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments ... ting_data/
https://bbs.deepin.org/forum.php?mod=vi ... 293&extra=
All that you linked is that the deepin store was collecting visitor statistic in the past. That functionality was subsequently patched out. Unnecessarily if you ask me, every web site tracks you like that. Ubuntu tracks you for more by default. Linux Mint has most of that disabled, but it's is still configured to regularly contact the Ubuntu time servers without offering you to opt out, so Canonical always knows when you are online, knows your IP and thus your location.ud6 wrote: ⤴Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:03 am I was just about to install Deepin, and was reading the same discussions (with feedback from Deeping developers). My conclusions are:
1. It is NOT apparent that deepin is spyware and probably there is some unfair negative attitudes because it is chinese based.
2. However, it DOES collect user information (like Windows/google does)
Unfortunately, that desire to collect user data in the background isn't something I like particularly if using for marketing. Seems a shame, as Deepin looks to be pushing forward the frontiers of good looking but efficient desktops.
links on these discussions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments ... ting_data/
https://bbs.deepin.org/forum.php?mod=vi ... 293&extra=
Good post. I am still not convinced that it is secure.gm10 wrote: ⤴Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:48 amAll that you linked is that the deepin store was collecting visitor statistic in the past. That functionality was subsequently patched out. Unnecessarily if you ask me, every web site tracks you like that. Ubuntu tracks you for more by default. Linux Mint has most of that disabled, but it's is still configured to regularly contact the Ubuntu time servers without offering you to opt out, so Canonical always knows when you are online, knows your IP and thus your location.ud6 wrote: ⤴Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:03 am I was just about to install Deepin, and was reading the same discussions (with feedback from Deeping developers). My conclusions are:
1. It is NOT apparent that deepin is spyware and probably there is some unfair negative attitudes because it is chinese based.
2. However, it DOES collect user information (like Windows/google does)
Unfortunately, that desire to collect user data in the background isn't something I like particularly if using for marketing. Seems a shame, as Deepin looks to be pushing forward the frontiers of good looking but efficient desktops.
links on these discussions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments ... ting_data/
https://bbs.deepin.org/forum.php?mod=vi ... 293&extra=
I'm all for a privacy discussion but then do it for everyone.