Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by Yfrwlf » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:50 pm

jodel wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:53 am
I am using the Nouveau Driver and have the exact same effect. Black Boxes randomly appearing on the second screen and being really annoying and flickering. GTK CSS fix applied but did not work.

As I use the Nouveau Driver and _not_ the NVIDIA driver, I daresay it's nothing to do with the NVIDIA driver but with a second monitor setup in Linux Mint 19.

This didn't happen to me in Linux Mint 18.
That would mean it's a Xorg or Muffin/Cinnamon issue I assume. I always install the proprietary driver since you can't do gaming without it.

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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by recluce » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:58 pm

Interesting, I have the same issue with a dual and one triple screen setup, both using Nvidia cards and Nvidia drivers. Here is my system configuration:

Cinnamon: 4.0.0
Muffin: 4.0.0-1
xorg-server: 1.20.3-1
nvidia driver: 410.66-3
Linux Kernel: 4.18.16

GPU on System 1: Nvidia GTX 970 (Intel CPU without graphics)
GPU on System 2: Nvidia Quadro P4000 (Intel graphics disabled in BIOS)

Now comes a big difference in system configuration that does not seem to make a difference, I still get occasional random flicker on both machines, mostly of backgrounds: I am not running Cinnamon on Mint, but on Artix Rolling (Artix is an Arch Linux fork without systemd). So the issue seems to be very much OS independent and just connected "somehow" to the interaction between Cinnamon / xorg / Nvidia Card. Oddly, I did not have these problems on the same hardware with Mint 17 (and whatever the versions of the other software were back then).

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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by benchrest » Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:19 pm

I had the problem of the background flickering once a week or so with 18 - 18.3 cinnamon with an GEFORCE EN210 older graphics. I upgraded to GEFORCE GTX 1050ti preparing for 19. After installing 19 and now 19.1 cinnamon I have only seen the background flicker maybe once in the last month. BUT on a daily basis I am seeing a similar problem with a window. If I open a window on the primary monitor and drag it to the secondary in will more than flicker but at a slower rate and stop after 4 or five slow flicker or it might just blank out completely. Then if I click somewhere on the secondary it reappears. Don't know if this is the same problem showing little different. I am at kernel 4.15.0-43 and nvidia driver 390.77 I drag windows back and forth quite a bit so happening twice a day is not to often.
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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by VtPoet » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:16 am

Just upgraded to Linux Mint 19.1 and am experiencing severe flickering and misplaced frames (window elements flickering back and forth between former and current states):

System: Host: vtpoet-Lenovo-Yoga-2-11 Kernel: 4.18.0-041800-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.0.8
Distro: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa
Machine: Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20428 v: Lenovo Yoga 2 11 serial: <root required>
Mobo: LENOVO model: VIUU4 v: 31900058WIN serial: <root required> UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO v: AACN21WW
date: 01/30/2015
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 27.2 Wh condition: 27.2/34.0 Wh (80%)
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-4012Y bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB
Speed: 627 MHz min/max: 600/1500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 859 2: 852 3: 817 4: 788
Graphics: Device-1: Intel driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell v: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.5

It's so bad that I'm having a hard time typing this comment.I'll probably have to install a different DE if there isn't a quick solution to this?

Edit: Just restarted Cinnamon (Alt-F2 + r), as a hail Mary, and that seems to have solved the issue? (Until the next restart?) Stay tuned.

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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by Yfrwlf » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:00 am

VtPoet wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:16 am
Just upgraded to Linux Mint 19.1 and am experiencing severe flickering and misplaced frames (window elements flickering back and forth between former and current states):

System: Host: vtpoet-Lenovo-Yoga-2-11 Kernel: 4.18.0-041800-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.0.8
Distro: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa
Machine: Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20428 v: Lenovo Yoga 2 11 serial: <root required>
Mobo: LENOVO model: VIUU4 v: 31900058WIN serial: <root required> UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO v: AACN21WW
date: 01/30/2015
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 27.2 Wh condition: 27.2/34.0 Wh (80%)
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-4012Y bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB
Speed: 627 MHz min/max: 600/1500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 859 2: 852 3: 817 4: 788
Graphics: Device-1: Intel driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell v: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.5

It's so bad that I'm having a hard time typing this comment.I'll probably have to install a different DE if there isn't a quick solution to this?

Edit: Just restarted Cinnamon (Alt-F2 + r), as a hail Mary, and that seems to have solved the issue? (Until the next restart?) Stay tuned.
That's a different issue. The severe screen flickering after upgrading to Mint 19.1 from 19 has been reported in this thread: viewtopic.php?p=1571645#p1571645

See my post where I asked everyone to try this but didn't get a response:
Would someone please try opening mintwelcome or "Welcome Screen" as it's called in the menu, and go to "First Steps" and try selecting the "traditional" or "modern" desktop layouts and see if either of those fix the problem? Because I have a sneaky suspicion that will take care of it, that there is some weird configuration cruft being leftover after upgrades that isn't getting cleaned out for certain configurations that is causing this problem.
Try that. If that doesn't work and there are no other solutions, reinstalling 19.1 from the ISO definitely does fix it. Hopefully you won't have to go to that length to solve it, though.

The issue being reported in this thread is certain windows in Cinnamon periodically and rarely blinking black, not flickering constantly insanely like with the 19.1 upgrade issue. They might be related to the same bug, though, who knows.

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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by Kilz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:45 pm

I tend to get it whenever I install any nvidia driver other than 340. I do have an older card though, 560 ti.
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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by BaconPancakes » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:17 am

Linux Mint 19.1 - Cinnamon
Kernels: 4.18.0-13, 4.15.0-43
Nvidia drivers: 415.25 & 396.54 (MSI 1080)

Three monitor set up. Middle is primary, no flickering or shenanigans there. It happens predominantly on the right-most monitor, rarely on the left. 3D applications (Wine->DXVK->World of Warcraft for example.) don't do it. I use Dolphin, and 9:10 if it flickers or something strange happens the custom-background css I used to change it's colours are no longer applied. I can trigger the flicker with it fairly reliably by starting a new window on main screen, moving it right and then clicking on middle screen without touching the window once drag 'n drop is ended. It's not personally an issue, and it's easy to stop it once it starts (just highlight/click/select the misbehaving one) but I thought I'd throw out what little information I had.

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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by klutzierthanmost » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:06 pm

I just recently installed LMDE 3. System: Host: dell Kernel: 4.9.0-9-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.0.10.
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD RV370 [Radeon X300] driver: radeon v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: ati,radeon
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1600x900~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV370 v: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6

As you can see I do not have an NVIDIA Graphix card. I am having the flickering problem.

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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by benchrest » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:34 pm

I last posted in January on this problem. Still occurring. Have two monitors and can happen on either. Mostly the edge of the background flickers and can be stopped by clicking on the background. The problem started when I was on 18.3 cinnamon and is occurring on 19. Originally with nvidia GEFORCE EN210. See my signature. I have a new built computer. It has the same MSI Geforce 1050ti but all else different. Still on 19 as 19.1 killed one of my apps. Searching through bugs can find little. Not sure how to report it as it fails so little and no documentation.
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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by Spearmint2 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:24 pm

maybe your resolution settings don't match the monitor's ratio, 16:9 or 16:10
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Re: Anyone else get flickering desktop backgrounds and windows periodically on NVIDIA cards in Cinnamon?

Post by benchrest » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:52 pm

my monitors are set to 16:9 1920 x 1080 and refresh rate is set at 60hz as the monitor requires. But both these settings were auto. Also I might have had two 24 in monitors when this started, can't be sure. I believe the problem has occurred 1 time today on the right monitor. Yesterday a couple of times on both. I am using the 390.116 driver. Don't remember which driver I had on 18.3
Perhaps a newer driver, but that would require manual install and may bring more grief than the flickering.
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