Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
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Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
Recently I've been working with a large number of small files (think thousands of mp3's) and while sorting them there's been a few times where I've deleted batches of duplicates. Each time I do so cinnamon freezes up until I ctrl+alt+backspace, or sometimes I even have to hard reboot after letting it sit for 15-20 minutes without even mouse movement... I have no idea what's going on, but I can't live with my system like this....
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Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
we can't help you until you tell us which OS and DE you are using.last2throw wrote: ⤴Thu May 16, 2019 2:12 pm Recently I've been working with a large number of small files (think thousands of mp3's) and while sorting them there's been a few times where I've deleted batches of duplicates. Each time I do so cinnamon freezes up until I ctrl+alt+backspace, or sometimes I even have to hard reboot after letting it sit for 15-20 minutes without even mouse movement... I have no idea what's going on, but I can't live with my system like this....
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up above the editor.Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
I did mention that I'm using cinnamon. I'm on 19.1 fully updated. I'm not at my laptop now to run that command, but I believe that's what you need.
Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
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System:
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Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
Yes, I saw that........... but the Cinnamon Desktop is used on many different versions of Mint, and I am only familiar with 18.3 Cinnamon..... which uses NEMO as the default FM.last2throw wrote: ⤴Thu May 16, 2019 5:18 pm I did mention that I'm using cinnamon. I'm on 19.1 fully updated. I'm not at my laptop now to run that command, but I believe that's what you need.
and NEMO has a known issue with trying to delete huge amounts of files all at once.
I have no clue as to the File Manager used in 19.1 Cinnamon, nor how well it does, or does not handle the deletion of huge directories....
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Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
I use fslint to find duplicate files.
https://vitux.com/find-and-replace-dupl ... in-ubuntu/
https://vitux.com/find-and-replace-dupl ... in-ubuntu/
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Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
A small processor needs a huge amount of time to do a huge amount of work. A huge amount of numbers of sectors to delete from a small disk costs a huge amount of access points that costs a huge amount of time. There is nothing than waitiing all the time until the hugh amount of outstanding work is done on such small CPU.
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Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
Try using the terminal - it's much faster, far less overhead. Or perhaps a better file-browser, like thunar, pcmanfm or xfe, even though "rm" in a terminal will still be faster.last2throw wrote: ⤴Thu May 16, 2019 5:18 pm I did mention that I'm using
cinnamon.
I'm on 19.1 fully updated. I'm not at my laptop now to run that command, but I believe that's what you need.
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Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
Are you deleting from the local drive or a network share?
I've just done a couple of test deletes (both to trash and bypassing trash) of about 15GB of files (a couple of thousand files) with no issues on a local drive.
I'm aware that lots of people report performance issues doing bulk actions over Samba shares with Nemo. I can't test that, I avoid Samba like the plague and use SFTP for network shares.
I've just done a couple of test deletes (both to trash and bypassing trash) of about 15GB of files (a couple of thousand files) with no issues on a local drive.
I'm aware that lots of people report performance issues doing bulk actions over Samba shares with Nemo. I can't test that, I avoid Samba like the plague and use SFTP for network shares.
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Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
Piffle. This might have some validity if the OP were trying to copy or move the files but delete requires very little work. Also, an Intel i5 CPU is well within the zone of motherboards from which one can expect reasonable performance in Mint.hcentaur13 wrote: ⤴Fri May 17, 2019 11:21 am A small processor needs a huge amount of time to do a huge amount of work. A huge amount of numbers of sectors to delete from a small disk costs a huge amount of access points that costs a huge amount of time. There is nothing than waitiing all the time until the hugh amount of outstanding work is done on such small CPU.
Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
Hey last2throw, I wonder whether the problem is your hard drive. There's an app for diagnosing such issues called smartmontools. Instructions on how to install and use at Ubuntu Help. I'd recommend you give that a shot.
Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
Wow! Thanks for all the replies everyone!
I'm actually working with files on a local solid state drive, same partition mint is installed on if that matters.
Not sure why, but I hadn't thought of checking another file browser to see if the issue is Nemo specific... I'll check that as soon as I get a chance!
Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
I think I've figured it out... And I'm glad I posted in newbie questions lol. When I was deleting files it was always from within a search within Nemo, I didn't even think about that being a factor, but when I just manually select and delete files (even dragging to select) my system freezes. With more experimentation I managed to get cinnamon to crash when the delete finally finishes, but as I said, deleting files without doing a search first, or moving them from the search to a new folder before deleting seems to solve the issue.
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Re: Cinnamon freezing when deleting files
That's interesting - I can't reproduce a freeze or a crash, but I can make cinnamon go a bit sluggish for a minute or so (running with circa 30% cpu use for no obvious reason) post delete by selecting circa 1000 mp3s via Nemo search and deleting them.
I have a hunch it's something to do with deleting a bunch of files while the thumbnailer is busy populating the search results with thumbnails. I end up with a whole load of failed thumbnails in ~/.cache/thumbnails/fail/gnome-thumbnail-factory when I do this.
I have a hunch it's something to do with deleting a bunch of files while the thumbnailer is busy populating the search results with thumbnails. I end up with a whole load of failed thumbnails in ~/.cache/thumbnails/fail/gnome-thumbnail-factory when I do this.
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