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bozzchem

Install of 19.1 is a bust

Post by bozzchem »

I made a boot USB for Gparted and wiped the drive of my laptop.
I made a boot USB for installation of 19.1 Cinnamon version.
I finally got past the boot menu for adding third party software.
Now, I'm stuck at the window for installation type after telling it to Erase Software and Install Linux Mint.
Maybe I should just go back to Windows.
Shouldn't this installation be easier?
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Re: Install of 19.1 is a bust

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Please post an inxi -Fxz report. This will give us a concise overview on your hardware and on how Mint sees it.

Here is how to generate the report and post it:

Reboot your install USB
Open a terminal window. Make it fullscreen to avoid unneeded linebreaks or chopped lines. Execute the command

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 inxi -Fxzd 
exactly as it has been typed here.

Mark the complete text output which the command will display with your mouse.
Press the keyboard shortcut <Shift><Ctrl>C to copy the marked text into the clipboard.
Enclose the results between the code markers by selecting </> from the mini toolbar above the textbox where you type your reply then paste <Ctrl>V them in your reply between the code markers.

The results will help us to help you.

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bozzchem

Is this really meant to be installed?

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I cannot get 19.1 installed on my HP laptop that previously had v 18 on it.
I made a bootable Gparted USB and wiped the drive.
I made a bootable USB for the 19.1 Cinnamon version.
I get to install third party software and it just hangs forever.
Since I've tried this at least a dozen times, when it does go further, I get a Low Disk warning even though there is 1 TB of unallocated space.
I'm starting to wonder if this wasn't designed to be installed.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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What video card does that machine have?
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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Are you dual boot or just LM 19.1 by itself? I don't see the reason for running gparted. I suspect the LM installer thinks there is little space on the drive because of what you did with gparted. I suspect you need to run gparted and make the whole drive a ext4 partition if you are not dual boot. Hopefully someone else will be able to give you more detail. A normal install of 19.1 replacing 18 would be just to run the installer, don't need to mess with 18 or gparted. Then when you get to the installation type select erase disk and install Linux Mint. The installer will do all the formatting you need.
But I am not sure what your disk looks like after running gparted and just what you did. With the live cd can you run sudo fdisk -l and see what your disk allocation is and post it here?
kc1di is onto something. I had to upgrade my graphics cards when I went from 18.3 to 19.0 But I don't remember the symptoms or how I knew.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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This laptop is 100% dedicated to linux.
It was running v 18 without issues. I now regret trying to "upgrade" to v 19.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It wasn't broke. I just wanted to have the latest version of LM. Bad move on my part.
I can't install LM 19.1 on this thing.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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This should be a simple install.
Drive is wiped and LM should install.
Nope. It hangs at third party installation. The one time it got past that, it hung at wipe the drive and install with a low disk warning...WITH A 1 TB WIPED drive.
Something has changed. It seems that it no longer wants to be installed. Since the laptop is dedicated to linux, I'll put up with this. No way in hell would I convert my other hosts based on this action. Once I figure this out, I will be slightly more inclined to move the others over.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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I see you have two choices. Answer the questions we asked or reinstall 18.3. But if reinstalling 18.3 fails the same way 19.1 did that might point to what you did with gparted.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

Post by gm10 »

Yeah, the GParted part sounds fishy. GParted is even available in the Mint live environment, why would you make a separate bootable USB for it? And if you want just one OS on the disk then the installer has the "erase drive" option, which is also the one I would recommend here. Is that what you are using?

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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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Could the low disk warning be the USB? Maybe it's trying to install to USB instead of HDD. Just a guess.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

Post by carum carvi »

I have had that same experience, that the installation kept hanging at the installation of third party software during a new install of LM19.1.. I disabled / skipped the third party software option DURING install and installed the third party software AFTER I had successfully done the new OS install. That worked for me. These third party software hang ups, were present during a 19.1 install, but NOT present during a LM18.3 install.

I must admit that I only use the option "third party software" to get Vlc Mediaplayer and multimedia codecs installed. But the multimedia codecs can also easily be installed AFTER a new OS install, by simply selecting: Menu / Video / Install Multimedia codecs.

I have often chosen NOT to install third party software and everything worked perfectly without it. I dont know in detail what is in the third party software package? What would one miss by NOT installing it? Is there a list available?
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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Linux Mint Release Notes wrote:

Force UEFI dialog hanging the installation


The following bug is affecting Linux Mint: https://askubuntu.com/questions/693732/ ... ion-window.

The issue occurs in EFI mode, when the HDD (or SSD) is new (without a partition table) and the installer is connected to the Internet.

To work around this problem, disable your Internet connection before launching the installer, or let the installer partition your drive automatically first (during a first install) and then install a second time with manual partitioning.

For more information on this bug, visit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1418706.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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bozzchem wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:08 pm It hangs at third party installation. The one time it got past that, it hung at wipe the drive and install with a low disk warning...
This post is posted twice on the forum with the same name....I wanna mention that first, to avoid confusion...


Forumuser Zcot has posted a link (see above) about an Ubuntu bug during installation. I have had a similar experience as the information in the link of Zcot.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/693732/ ... ion-window

The solution described in the link is to disable the third party software option or even disable the internet connection during the first install. After the new install, do a reboot and install the extra updates while connected again to the internet. This seems to work.

I have experienced several similar hangups during a new install of LM19.1 as well, right at the moment of the "third party software option". I disabled that third party software option during the install and selected to install the multimedia codecs AFTER the new LM19.1 install. That worked perfectly. (I didnt have to disconnect the internet connection though during the install).

Like the other comments already described one indeed doesnt need Gparted for a new install. I always take the easy route by simply letting the LinuxMint installer decide how to install the new OS. Worked perfectly every time!
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Re: Install of 19.1 is a bust

Post by carum carvi »

Bozzchem, welcome to the Linux MInt forum,

Accidentally you have created 3 different posts with the same question. Please check your earlier posts for all the answers that were already given.

viewtopic.php?f=46&t=298613

viewtopic.php?f=46&t=298612
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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Duplicate topics merged.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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xenopeek wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:04 amDuplicate topics merged.
Merged in one more thread about the same topic (Install of 19.1 is a bust)
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Re: Install of 19.1 is a bust

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bozzchem wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:44 pm I made a boot USB for Gparted and wiped the drive of my laptop.
I made a boot USB for installation of 19.1 Cinnamon version.
I finally got past the boot menu for adding third party software.
Now, I'm stuck at the window for installation type after telling it to Erase Software and Install Linux Mint.
Maybe I should just go back to Windows.
Shouldn't this installation be easier?
Actually, the Linux Mint installer is really easy to use. So I have a question. Since you used Gparted to wipe your laptop's drive, why wouldn't you just select either the "Something else" install option, or just use the entire disk? There is no need to erase anything! Just follow the install instructions that have been published for Mint, step by step.

If you want to go back to Windows, that would be your choice, but don't blame Mint ...
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

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I guess I should just stick with Windows. At least it installs.
LM 19 refuses to install.
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

Post by Moem »

If you don't want to give more information by answering questions and trying out suggestions, then that might be for the best. :?
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Re: Is this really meant to be installed?

Post by turtlebay »

The OP doesn't say anywhere that he/she has checked the MD3 against the downloaded file copy of Mint 19, perhaps they have a borked copy?
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