Mint v19.3 audio popping
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Mint v19.3 audio popping
I installed mint v19.3 Tricia yesterday. It's working fine except that a sometimes startlingly loud popping noise is produced whenever an audio/video file begins. Is there a way to resolve this without downgrading to v19.2?
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Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
FWIW, I get the same thing with 19.3, not otherwise.heavilyredacted wrote: ⤴Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:39 pm I installed mint v19.3 Tricia yesterday. It's working fine except that a sometimes startlingly loud popping noise is produced whenever an audio/video file begins. Is there a way to resolve this without downgrading to v19.2?
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Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Yep, noticed it too when I installed 19.3 last night. Even pops when visiting a site that has audio features even if they aren't currently playing. Hoping things will settle down. 19.2 sound would sometimes pop when doing a system reboot / restart but not otherwise on my desktop.
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
There was an update to pulseaudio a few days ago. I wonder if something in the update is causing this.
Sounds as though the amp isn't ramping up to full volume gradually and is jumping from off to fully on.
Sounds as though the amp isn't ramping up to full volume gradually and is jumping from off to fully on.
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Think it's a power issue. Seems power to audio is disabled after 10 seconds if not being actively used ... or something like that ... and apparently the pop is when sound is re-enabled for a site or audio file.
I guess it depends on hardware, but the solution at this link fixed my popping problem and there is also a link in the solution to a youtube video for further explanation and is worth a watch ... https://superuser.com/questions/1493096 ... ew-seconds
I THINK basically the fix keeps the sound from "going to sleep". This fix may not be ideal for a laptop on battery power.
I guess it depends on hardware, but the solution at this link fixed my popping problem and there is also a link in the solution to a youtube video for further explanation and is worth a watch ... https://superuser.com/questions/1493096 ... ew-seconds
I THINK basically the fix keeps the sound from "going to sleep". This fix may not be ideal for a laptop on battery power.
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Yeah, some hardware has always needed the power_save/power_save_controller settings change. But this sounds like a change has been made that needs to be fixed.JoeBingo wrote: ⤴Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:56 pm Think it's a power issue. Seems power to audio is disabled after 10 seconds if not being actively used ... or something like that ... and apparently the pop is when sound is re-enabled for a site or audio file.
I guess it depends on hardware, but the solution at this link fixed my popping problem and there is also a link in the solution to a youtube video for further explanation and is worth a watch ... https://superuser.com/questions/1493096 ... ew-seconds
I THINK basically the fix keeps the sound from "going to sleep". This fix may not be ideal for a laptop on battery power.
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Maybe the 4.15 kernel had Intel HDA power saving disabled? Frankly I don't recall, it's been making that sound for years when entering power save mode. Which brings substantial battery savings btw.
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
What I meant was something has changed were people that didn't need to disable power saving previously are now getting the nasty pops. I haven't had a 19.3 system up for a few days, but has there been an update to ALSA? I can't really see a pulseaudio change causing this.
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Yes, I realized that and had edited that post long before you posted. But those pops have always been around with power saving enabled, they have been happening for years.
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Gotcha. Looks like you were correct about 4.15:
My 19.3 install is in a VM and doesn't use snd-hda-intel, so no equivalent parameters there.
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scott@scott-HP ~ $ cat /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save_controller
Y
scott@scott-HP ~ $ cat /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save
0
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Curious ... wonder why the controller was left in the enabled (Y) state when the power save feature was disabled (0) in the 4.15 kernel?MrEen wrote: ⤴Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:54 pm Gotcha. Looks like you were correct about 4.15:My 19.3 install is in a VM and doesn't use snd-hda-intel, so no equivalent parameters there.Code: Select all
scott@scott-HP ~ $ cat /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save_controller Y scott@scott-HP ~ $ cat /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/power_save 0
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
You are misunderstanding the flag:
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parm: power_save_controller:Reset controller in power save mode. (bool)
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
I have the same issue after upgrade to 19.3.
Any solution found?
Any solution found?
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Your options are to go back to the 4.15 kernel series or to disable power management for Intel's HDA driver:
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sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0'
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Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Okay, so the controller (Y) is more like a persistence than an enable (feels like I'm not finding the right word), regarding the state of power save, I guess. The link I posted earlier suggested power save (0) and power save controller (N). Just trying to wrap my head around why 4.15 would do it one way and not the other.gm10 wrote: ⤴Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:58 am You are misunderstanding the flag:Code: Select all
parm: power_save_controller:Reset controller in power save mode. (bool)
EDIT: After the 4.15 reveal, I change the controller back to (Y) while leaving power save (0) ... no popping. Since battery power isn't an issue with my desktop, I'm a happy camper.
EDIT 2: While the audio power save feature may enable "substantial" battery savings, I don't recall any thread complaints concerning battery power duration due to no/disabled audio power save when everyone was using 4.15. Just an observation.
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
This worked on my desktop, thank you
Your only options are to either deal with it or to disable power management for Intel's HDA driver:
(takes effect on reboot)
Your only options are to either deal with it or to disable power management for Intel's HDA driver:
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sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0'
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Thanks, popping sound is gonegm10 wrote: ⤴Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:49 amYour only options are to either deal with it or to disable power management for Intel's HDA driver:(takes effect on reboot)Code: Select all
sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0'
Re: Mint v19.3 audio popping
Thank you so very much!
I upgraded from 19.2 a few days ago and the "pop-pop" when I started an audio file or video was really annoying me. It has always there in the boot sequence, but that is only when booting when it is supposed to be doing things. When you are actually using the computer it is just "wrong".
I upgraded from 19.2 a few days ago and the "pop-pop" when I started an audio file or video was really annoying me. It has always there in the boot sequence, but that is only when booting when it is supposed to be doing things. When you are actually using the computer it is just "wrong".
gm10 wrote: ⤴Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:49 amYour only options are to either deal with it or to disable power management for Intel's HDA driver:(takes effect on reboot)Code: Select all
sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf <<<'options snd-hda-intel power_save=0'
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