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Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
Hi all
The only way I can get Drawing to crop is to click on the crop icon and then play around with the numbers in the bottom bar. An interesting if ,so far, annoying 'feature', that I may have a play-around with - but there again, may not.
Jon
EDIT to change 'it' to 'Drawing', to make things a bit clearer
The only way I can get Drawing to crop is to click on the crop icon and then play around with the numbers in the bottom bar. An interesting if ,so far, annoying 'feature', that I may have a play-around with - but there again, may not.
Jon
EDIT to change 'it' to 'Drawing', to make things a bit clearer
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
I had trouble with the monochrome default set, but there is another default set that is much easier for me to work with:absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:55 amWell, if you know where to get a new set of modified icons and if you also know where to place them, then - Yes, it works very well in Linux Mint...
If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
Yes, I saw the function after read your description. But in a graphics and drawing program?
The same way it does my beloved Mirage, which is also a really fast picture viewer. But it is considered obsolete...
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
There is the problem with high-resolution monitors: GIMP 2.8 can't do this, the original icons are only visible with a magnifying glass. That means, you tinker with the delivered version or you get the AppImage of version 2.10 where the problem is solved...Moem wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:06 amI had trouble with the monochrome default set, but there is another default set that is much easier for me to work with:absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:55 amWell, if you know where to get a new set of modified icons and if you also know where to place them, then - Yes, it works very well in Linux Mint...
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
Hi absque fenestris
Yep - it rather confused me as well, but hey ho!
Jon
EDIT - Sorry, I'm still rambling on about 'Drawing'
Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
Yeah, I have the Flatpak, it's also 2.10. It's the first version of Gimp that feels usable to me, rather than obscure and intimidating.absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:29 am There is the problem with high-resolution monitors: GIMP 2.8 can't do this, the original icons are only visible with a magnifying glass. That means, you tinker with the delivered version or you get the AppImage of version 2.10 where the problem is solved...
If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
After I made that post, I brought up Drawing again.absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:56 amCan I understand your comment as that Drawing is superfluous? BTW: the Cropping command in Drawing has a bug - at least at my device.
I imported an image, then I tried to crop it, and that failed, making an attempt to export the cropped image futile.
I have used GIMP for years, and it works flawlessly, I can use the kybd shortcuts quickly, and not have to use a mouse to find a button. I hate using a mouse for frivolous things.
With GIMP, I draw a rectangle, Alt-I and then 'I', then Shift-Cntl-E and I am done.
Control Q, tab, enter and back to work at something else.
All of that takes about 3 or 4 seconds.....
IMO, Drawing is no where near ready for Prime time, it should have been fleshed out with a Beta version long before it was pushed into 19.3
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
Well yes! Flatpak - I had a very tendentious discussion in this forums, which still makes me shudder today. Deleting Flatpak is my very first "official" action: it flies away...Moem wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:32 amYeah, I have the Flatpak, it's also 2.10. It's the first version of Gimp that feels usable to me, rather than obscure and intimidating.absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:29 am There is the problem with high-resolution monitors: GIMP 2.8 can't do this, the original icons are only visible with a magnifying glass. That means, you tinker with the delivered version or you get the AppImage of version 2.10 where the problem is solved...
Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
I just took a look. It's both. You can crop - the zoomed view is what the end-result will be - but it's bugged in that it does not read the cursor position correctly. Besides, the author was trying to be cute and reinvent the wheel, but has since seen the error of his ways and reworked the zoom and crop features.Moem wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:18 amIs it a bug or do neither of us understand how to use it? I can't make it crop no matter what. It seems to... zoom?absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:56 am the Cropping command in Drawing has a bug - at least at my device.
That doesn't help you with the old version that Clem added to Mint (which has tons of other bugs as well btw), but in the current version it looks like this (the author is distributing a flatpak, although I built from source since I don't use flatpaks), you can just drag the borders to crop:
But anyway, I agree, not the best choice of tool, and certainly not in the old version in the Mint repos.
Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
Hi all.
Cropping in Drawing. EDIT gm10 beat me to it!
When in GIMP and I want to crop something out of a photo I select what I want to crop. Drawing doesn't like that idea, what it wants you to do is to click on the Crop icon then select the edge of the photo and drag that to where you want to crop and then do the same from the bottom of the photo and then go to Options and Apply.
What a kerfuffle.
Jon
Cropping in Drawing. EDIT gm10 beat me to it!
When in GIMP and I want to crop something out of a photo I select what I want to crop. Drawing doesn't like that idea, what it wants you to do is to click on the Crop icon then select the edge of the photo and drag that to where you want to crop and then do the same from the bottom of the photo and then go to Options and Apply.
What a kerfuffle.
Jon
Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
Fair enough, how about a PPA instead? https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulas ... buntu/gimpabsque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:45 am Well yes! Flatpak - I had a very tendentious discussion in this forums, which still makes me shudder today. Deleting Flatpak is my very first "official" action: it flies away...
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
He can stick this version where the sun don't shine. And it's impossible to search for on the intarwebz, because of the 'cute' name.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
I just don't like Flatpaks, they are NOT intuitive, and are wasteful of disk space.
Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
I installed it on a bootable stick and after that on my machine with Windows and 19.2 on it, expecting it would replace the 19.2 version. But instead of that, I saw 18.3 added! So what to do now?
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
About Drawing: Too bad for a program and its developer - was there any time pressure or other stress?
To Tricia Cinnamon I can only say: I'm delighted.
The optical problems (Icons) have to do with advancing technology. 25 years ago 72 dpi was the standard in monitor resolution. My small, cute laptop brings it up to 260 dpi. Somehow understandable that this bandwidth creates problems.
To Tricia Cinnamon I can only say: I'm delighted.
The optical problems (Icons) have to do with advancing technology. 25 years ago 72 dpi was the standard in monitor resolution. My small, cute laptop brings it up to 260 dpi. Somehow understandable that this bandwidth creates problems.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
??absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:29 am
There is the problem with high-resolution monitors: GIMP 2.8 can't do this, the original icons are only visible with a magnifying glass. That means, you tinker with the delivered version or you get the AppImage of version 2.10 where the problem is solved...
I am using 2.8 GIMP, and the icon on the Panel looks okay to me.
I am using a 17" HiDef laptop and initially, all the icons were too small for 78 y/o eyes to view them.
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date: 09/21/2018
But, I do NOT use any of the Side Panel extensions in GIMP,
I use it for cropping and scaling, and changing image formats.
That I can do with only the center GIMP app.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
No PPA. I stay with an AppImage. I have modified GIMP 2.8 and now both versions run.Moem wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:53 amFair enough, how about a PPA instead? https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulas ... buntu/gimpabsque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:45 am Well yes! Flatpak - I had a very tendentious discussion in this forums, which still makes me shudder today. Deleting Flatpak is my very first "official" action: it flies away...
Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
That's not what we are talking about. It's about the tool icons inside the program itself.AZgl1500 wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:05 am??absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:29 am
There is the problem with high-resolution monitors: GIMP 2.8 can't do this, the original icons are only visible with a magnifying glass. That means, you tinker with the delivered version or you get the AppImage of version 2.10 where the problem is solved...
I am using 2.8 GIMP, and the icon on the Panel looks okay to me.
If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!
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Re: Linux Mint 19.3 'Tricia' What are your First Impressions?
17" HiDef does not say anything specific. You have to measure the width of your monitor in inches and then see whatAZgl1500 wrote: ⤴Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:05 am
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I am using 2.8 GIMP, and the icon on the Panel looks okay to me.
I am using a 17" HiDef laptop and initially, all the icons were too small for 78 y/o eyes to view them.But, the folks here on this forum helped me fix that.Code: Select all
Machine: Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: TUF Gaming FX705GM_FX705GM v: 1.0 serial: <root required> Mobo: ASUSTeK model: FX705GM v: 1.0 serial: <root required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: FX705GM.301 date: 09/21/2018
But, I do NOT use any of the Side Panel extensions in GIMP,
I use it for cropping and scaling, and changing image formats.
That I can do with only the center GIMP app.
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outputs. Then you divide the indicated number of pixels by the measured width and have the resolution in dpi per inch. Öhhm - ppi (pixel per inch) of course...Code: Select all
ms@ms:~$ inxi -G
Graphics: Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.15.0.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 3000x1790~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: SVGA3D; build v: 2.1 Mesa 19.0.8
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