LMDE 4 “Debbie” released!

[clem]

https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3867

[rene]

Who's "Debbie" and when will it be released 4 the rest of us?

[GELvdH]

I just installed LMDE 4 as a dual boot on my system, I ran into the following issues.
1. It would not let me install on the same drive as my LM 19.3, it wanted to erase the disk and start from scratch. I ended up installing it on one of my extra disks.
2 After completing the installation I configured the system to be similar to 19.3 which is NordVPN etc. When I tried to install my MEGA cloud storage from their web site, I got the following message. (Error: Dependency is not satisfiable libraw16(>=0.16.0). I noticed when I went to their web site the Linux selections only included Mint 19. Apparently there is some disparity between LMDE 4 and LM 19 when it comes to MEGA cloud storage.
Just letting you know.

[AZgl1800]

I just installed LMDE 4 as a dual boot on my system, I ran into the following issues.
1. It would not let me install on the same drive as my LM 19.3, it wanted to erase the disk and start from scratch. I ended up installing it on one of my extra disks.
2 After completing the installation I configured the system to be similar to 19.3 which is NordVPN etc. When I tried to install my MEGA cloud storage from their web site, I got the following message. (Error: Dependency is not satisfiable libraw16(>=0.16.0). I noticed when I went to their web site the Linux selections only included Mint 19. Apparently there is some disparity between LMDE 4 and LM 19 when it comes to MEGA cloud storage.
Just letting you know.

I ran into the same thing, I wanted to install it alongside 19.3 Cinnamon, but the option to do so is NOT present at all..... it was present on LMDE3 and I placed it alongside 18.3 Cinnamon.

As I was using a backup laptop to experiment with, I decided to let it erase the full disk...
that is NOT convenient for a lot of folks.

Once I got LMDE4 up and running/updated I tried to bring over my desktop from my daily driver laptop, using Aptik to do so.

that produced a long string of errors, the very first one stated: PPAs are not supported.

after that the screen just scrolled up with error after error, and I aborted the experiment.

[Moonstone Man]

... I tried to bring over my desktop from my daily driver laptop, using Aptik to do so.

that produced a long string of errors, the very first one stated: PPAs are not supported.

Outright PEBCAK error. You need to manually restore an Aptik archive, one step at a time, making sure that you do not restore anything that will affect ... wait for it ... wait for it ... a completely different linux distribution, which is what LMDE4 is compared to LM 19.3.

[AZgl1800]

no, it was not.

I wanted to see what it would do, and that is what I came up with. a bit of knowledge...

sure, I could have picked out only /home and that would have worked

but, I don't like the older laptop, it was NOT worth the time to go thru with the experiment.

I enjoyed seeing what TJ has done in the way of detecting errors, he is one smart cookie and I enjoy his products, and I support him with Donations...

there is never, anything wrong, with doing experiments, as long as, they are not on your daily used laptop/PC.

if I were concerned out public comments on doing so, I would have done the experiment and kept my mouth shut sir!

I was asked by someone " will it work ? "
I said I don't know, but I am willing to do that experiment on an old unused laptop.

that is where I am ending this discussion.

[Moonstone Man]

that is where I am ending this discussion.

You beat me to it. It has nothing to do with LMDE.

[GELvdH]

Clem, I was posting a bug report not asking for help.

[absque fenestris]

Debbie only runs in the VirtualBox, but very nice.
Completely hassle-free installation and surprisingly economical for a Cinnamon desktop.
Hi-DPI and monitor recognition in Cinnamon works very well, unfortunately Krita and Scribus do not cooperate at all, GIMP 2.10 (or GNU Image Manipulation Program as it is called in the menu) would actually be usable.
I have now decided for the scaled 200% output in VirtualBox: all graphics programs can now be used normally. Whether I use Hi-DPI in Cinnamon or the 200% scaling of VirtualBox, the display quality is identical.

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m@m:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
  Host: m Kernel: 4.19.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: LMDE 4 Debbie base: Debian 10.2 buster 
Machine:
  Type: Virtualbox System: innotek product: VirtualBox v: 1.2 
  serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Oracle model: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: <filter> BIOS: innotek 
  v: VirtualBox date: 12/01/2006 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 47.5 Wh condition: 50.0/50.0 Wh (100%) model: innotek 1 
  status: Charging 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-8550U bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Kaby Lake rev: A L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 15935 
  Speed: 1992 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1992 2: 1992 3: 1992 
  4: 1992 
Graphics:
  Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.15.0.0 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: vmware 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1500x895~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: SVGA3D; build v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801AA AC97 Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_intel8x0 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:05.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-8-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI 
  port: d020 bus ID: 00:03.0 
  IF: enp0s3 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI type: network bridge 
  driver: piix4_smbus v: N/A port: d200 bus ID: 00:07.0 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 64.00 GiB used: 6.18 GiB (9.7%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: VirtualBox model: VBOX HARDDISK size: 64.00 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 58.80 GiB used: 6.18 GiB (10.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda1 
Sensors:
  Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Info:
  Processes: 180 Uptime: 4h 07m Memory: 3.85 GiB used: 1.15 GiB (29.8%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
  inxi: 3.0.32 

[smurphos]

I just installed LMDE 4 as a dual boot on my system, I ran into the following issues.
1. It would not let me install on the same drive as my LM 19.3, it wanted to erase the disk and start from scratch. I ended up installing it on one of my extra disks.
2 After completing the installation I configured the system to be similar to 19.3 which is NordVPN etc. When I tried to install my MEGA cloud storage from their web site, I got the following message. (Error: Dependency is not satisfiable libraw16(>=0.16.0). I noticed when I went to their web site the Linux selections only included Mint 19. Apparently there is some disparity between LMDE 4 and LM 19 when it comes to MEGA cloud storage.
Just letting you know.

Try installing the correct version of the Mega client
You'll need the Debian 10 version for LMDE4

[absque fenestris]

Oops! In daylight, I quickly switched back to Hi-DPI.
It's amazing how the eye can be fooled by artificial light.
Hi-DPI is great when the applications are customized. The font quality is stunning.
And exactly the fonts looked questionable in daylight without Hi-DPI.

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Graphics:
  Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.15.0.0 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: vmware 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 3000x1790~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: SVGA3D; build v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes

Very positive: In contrast to MATE, the changeover is made very quickly, and the mouse pointer also works without problems.

It's hard to say what exactly makes it up - but I've enjoyed this Cinnamon the most so far - and it's fast.

[JKofSeattle]

Did a clean install of the March 20 release and do not see a "Driver Manager" selection in Menu, should there be one?
Also did the install with Nvidia drivers which caused system to not recognize my monitor, Did a purge of Nvidia* and reboot saw my monitor and associated resolutions. The install used my pc manufacturer's drivers initially so i assume something with the Nvidia install option messed things up. Seems odd that I have not seen any update activity yet. Wish there was an avenue for bug reports to submit.

Nice work on this release

[mzsade]

Congratulations! Do hope an independent mate edition will be released sometime in the future.

[GELvdH]

Thanks SMURPHOS, that did the trick.

[superlinuxero]

Hi there and thanks for this release!

I'm a long-time Linux user coming from Arch. Althoug Arch is very nice and AUR is a plus for any distribution, and I wouldn't mind spending time under the hood many times, I was getting a little tired of it. I can honestly say this probably is the most polished out-of-the-box-ready-to-work distribution I've ever seen. After checking it out it in a VirtualBox instance I ditched Arch and installed it in my desktop workstation and 2 laptops, one of them a 32-bit Thninkpad Z61t (my work laptop). I can only say how happy I am now running such a polished DE on top of Debian. Hope you can continue your good work not being shadowed by the ubuntu based version.

Thanks again!

[Koning Mint]

I cannot describe myself better as a daily user of Linux Mint ( already +/- 6 years )
a few weeks ago I discovered to my great pleasure that it now appears that there is a solid alternative for Linux Mint based on Ubuntu : LMDE 4 !
I adopted it and for several reasons I have not regretted it so far :

LMDE4 on my main laptop (UEFI: American Megatrends v: X75VD.408 date: 11/08/2012 )
https://postlmg.cc/G93KtHsC
phil50@phil50:~$ inxi -Fxz
Host: phil50 Kernel: 4.19.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v:8.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: LMDE 4 Debbie base: Debian 10.2 buster
UEFI: American Megatrends v: X75VD.408 date: 11/08/2012

LMDE4 on my backup laptop ( UEFI: American Megatrends v: X751LAB.507 date: 12/07/2015 )
https://postlmg.cc/ZB8VryQw
flying60@flying60:~$ inxi -Fxz
Host: flying60 Kernel: 4.19.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 8.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: LMDE 4 Debbie base: Debian 10.2 buster
UEFI: American Megatrends v: X751LAB.507 date: 12/07/2015

LMDE4 on my Lady's laptop ( UEFI: American Megatrends v: X751LAB.300 date: 11/26/2014 )
https://postlmg.cc/4nJpsZt6
aik30@aik30:~$ inxi -Fxz
Host: aik30 Kernel: 4.19.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: LMDE 4 Debbie base: Debian 10.2 buster
UEFI: American Megatrends v: X751LAB.300 date: 11/26/2014

LMDE 4 on Dewi medior's laptop : UEFI: American Megatrends v: K54HR.204 date: 03/20/2012
Desktop screenshot censured ...
dewi50@dewi50:~$ inxi -Fxz
Host: dewi50 Kernel: 4.19.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: LMDE 4 Debbie base: Debian 10.2 buster
UEFI: American Megatrends v: K54HR.204 date: 03/20/2012

LMDE 4 on my black sheep (Samsung RV520) : UEFI : Phoenix v: 02PQ date: 06/15/2011
https://postimg.cc/Kkk1mZZJ
phil30@phil30:~$ inxi -Fxz
Host: phil30 Kernel: 4.19.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: LMDE 4 Debbie base: Debian 10.2 buster
UEFI: Phoenix v: 02PQ date: 06/15/2011

Dear Sir Clement Lefebvre and Staff, congratulations !
with gratitude ,
Dewi and C°

You sure you have no more devices with LM Debbie?

[Koning Mint]

You sure you have no more devices with LM Debbie?

Yep ,
only one more to go , the laptop from the jongest descendant of the family ... who's finishing high school this year
due to the actual corona regulations she's fully dependant from her laptop ... not realy the right time to do the LMDE4 conversion

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******@******-X550LD:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
  Host: ******-X550LD Kernel: 4.15.0-96-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
  compiler: gcc v: 7.5.0 Desktop: MATE 1.22.0 Distro: Linux Mint 19.2 Tina 
  base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X550LD v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X550LD v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: X550LD.306 date: 05/14/2014 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.6 Wh condition: 36.7/38.5 Wh (95%) 
  model: ASUSTeK X550A26 status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i7-4510U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Haswell rev: 1 L2 cache: 4096 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 20752 
  Speed: 1389 MHz min/max: 800/3100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1397 2: 1397 
  3: 1397 4: 1397 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 
  620M/625M/630M/720M] 
  vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: modesetting,nouveau 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile v: 4.5 Mesa 19.2.8 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.15.0-96-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus ID: 02:00.1 
  IF: enp2s0f1 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On 
  driver: ath9k v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
  IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 39.47 GiB (35.3%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37120G size: 111.79 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 109.04 GiB used: 39.46 GiB (36.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2000 
Info:
  Processes: 189 Uptime: 23m Memory: 7.68 GiB used: 1.15 GiB (15.0%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.5.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.20 
  inxi: 3.0.32 
djuwita@djuwita-X550LD:~$ 

Allright.

[mattlach]

Is anyone else having strange language problems with the installer?

I tried both expert mode and standard installer, and no matter what I do the installer is in some language I don't recognize.

Some googling suggests it might be Romanian.

[antikythera]

No, it worked fine here. You may want to verify the checksum of the ISO you downloaded

[mattlach]

No, it worked fine here. You may want to verify the checksum of the ISO you downloaded

Yep, Checked the checksum. It checks out:

fb6fb4f507f1de979a8922f9e503ae0ad8109e87ea1a9a163a6b30f819971256 *lmde-4-cinnamon-64bit.iso

Did you use the 32 or 64bit ISO?

Edit:

I have started a separate thread for this issue here.