32 or 64 bit

[borgward]

Vostro 1000, Mint 18.2 32bit live session from optical drive.

Ran sudo lshw -html > hardware.html from terminal. opened the html frome home.

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id:	
mint
description: 	Portable Computer
product: 	Vostro 1000
vendor: 	Dell Inc.
version: 	Not Specified
serial: 	CZVCLH1
width: 	32 bits
capabilities: 	smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 smp-1.4 smp
configuration:	
boot	=	oem-specific
chassis	=	portable
cpus	=	1
uuid	=	44454C4C-5A00-1056-8043-C3C04F4C4831

id:	
cpu
description: 	CPU
product: 	Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3600+
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 	
5
bus info: 	
cpu@0
version: 	15.12.2
slot: 	Socket M2/S1G1
size: 	2GHz
capacity: 	4GHz
width: 	64 bits
clock: 	200MHz
capabilities: 	boot fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch vmmcall cpufreq

Should I be able to boot 64 bit OS?

[JoeFootball]

Should I be able to boot 64 bit OS?

Looks like the CPU is 64-bit, so I'd presume the rest of the infrastructure is as well. Try it. It will work or it won't.

[borgward]

Was able to boot Mint 18.0 64bit. 19 will boot but is a bit too much for the old machine. The processor is indeed 64 bit. What gets me is "Width: 32bits" See below.

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mint
description: 	Portable Computer
product: 	Vostro 1000
vendor: 	Dell Inc.
version: 	Not Specified
serial: 	CZVCLH1
width: 	32 bits
capabilities: 	smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 smp-1.4 smp
configuration:	
boot	=	oem-specific
chassis	=	portable
cpus	=	1
uuid	=	44454C4C-5A00-1056-8043-C3C04F4C4831
id:	
core
description: 	Motherboard
product: 	0WY383
vendor: 	Dell Inc.
physical id: 	
0
serial: 	.CZVCLH1.CN4864387V0838.
id:	
firmware
description: 	BIOS
vendor: 	Dell Inc.
physical id: 	
1
version: 	2.6.3
date: 	12/07/2007
size: 	105KiB
capacity: 	960KiB
capabilities: 	pci pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification
id:	
cpu
description: 	CPU
product: 	Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3600+
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 	
5
bus info: 	
cpu@0
version: 	15.12.2
slot: 	Socket M2/S1G1
size: 	2GHz
capacity: 	4GHz
width: 	64 bits
clock: 	200MHz

Are the drivers for the 32bit Mint different than the drivers for the 64bit Mint?

[JoeFootball]

What gets me is "Width: 32bits"

For the OS. Didn't you say that you were running a 32-bit version of Linux Mint? Or is that output from the 64-bit that you were trying?

Are the drivers for the 32bit Mint different than the drivers for the 64bit Mint?

I can't speak to specifics, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were.

I would try LM 18.3 Xfce, which is still supported until April 2021.

EDIT: Also, the output to inxi -Fxz would provide some nice details of your system.

[borgward]

I ran 32 bit live, then I booted 64bit live. Both ran.

Oh, the hardware info i posted was from the 32bit live session

[JoeFootball]

I ran 32 bit live, then I booted 64bit live. Both ran.

Then to answer your original question, you can run a 64-bit version of Linux Mint.

Oh, the hardware info i posted was from the 32bit live session

Then that part of the output for the "id: mint" section was for the OS which you were running at the time, and thus shown as 32-bit.

[borgward]

I just ran sudo lshw -html > hardware.html from 64bit live session still get 32bit Width at the host bridge

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id:	
mint
description: 	Computer
width: 	64 bits
capabilities: 	smbios-2.4 vsyscall32
id:	
core
description: 	Motherboard
physical id: 	
0
id:	
memory
description: 	System memory
physical id: 	
0
size: 	1873MiB
id:	
cpu
product: 	Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3600+
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
cpu@0
size: 	800MHz
capacity: 	2GHz
width: 	64 bits
capabilities: 	fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good nopl extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch vmmcall cpufreq
id:	
pci:0
description: 	Host bridge
product: 	RS480/RS482/RS485 Host Bridge
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
100
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 	10
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
configuration:	
latency	=	64
id:	
pci:0
description: 	PCI bridge
product: 	RC4xx/RS4xx PCI Bridge [int gfx]
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	pci ht normal_decode bus_master cap_list
resources:	
ioport	:	9000(size=4096)
memory	:	c0100000-c01fffff
ioport	:	c8000000(size=134217728)
id:	
display
description: 	VGA compatible controller
product: 	RS482/RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100/1150]
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
5
bus info: 	
pci@0000:01:05.0
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration:	
driver	=	radeon
latency	=	66
mingnt	=	8
resources:	
irq	:	17
memory	:	c8000000-cfffffff
ioport	:	9000(size=256)
memory	:	c0100000-c010ffff
memory	:	c0120000-c013ffff
id:	
pci:1
description: 	PCI bridge
product: 	RC4xx/RS4xx PCI Express Port 2
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
5
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:05.0
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
capabilities: 	pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	pcieport
resources:	
irq	:	0
ioport	:	2000(size=4096)
memory	:	80000000-801fffff
ioport	:	80200000(size=2097152)
id:	
pci:2
description: 	PCI bridge
product: 	RC4xx/RS4xx PCI Express Port 3
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
6
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:06.0
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
capabilities: 	pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	pcieport
resources:	
irq	:	0
ioport	:	3000(size=4096)
memory	:	c0200000-c02fffff
ioport	:	80400000(size=2097152)
id:	
network
description: 	Network controller
product: 	BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
vendor: 	Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 	
0
bus info: 	
pci@0000:05:00.0
version: 	01
width: 	64 bits
clock: 	33MHz
capabilities: 	pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	b43-pci-bridge
latency	=	0
resources:	
irq	:	18
memory	:	c0200000-c0203fff
id:	
storage
description: 	SATA controller
product: 	SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
12
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:12.0
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	storage pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	ahci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	22
ioport	:	8438(size=8)
ioport	:	8454(size=4)
ioport	:	8430(size=8)
ioport	:	8450(size=4)
ioport	:	8400(size=16)
memory	:	c0004000-c00043ff
id:	
usb:0
description: 	USB controller
product: 	SB600 USB (OHCI0)
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
13
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:13.0
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	ohci bus_master
configuration:	
driver	=	ohci-pci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	16
memory	:	c0005000-c0005fff
id:	
usbhost
product: 	OHCI PCI host controller
vendor: 	Linux 4.4.0-21-generic ohci_hcd
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
usb@2
logical name: 	
usb2
version: 	4.04
capabilities: 	usb-1.10
configuration:	
driver	=	hub
slots	=	2
speed	=	12Mbit/s
id:	
usb:1
description: 	USB controller
product: 	SB600 USB (OHCI1)
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
13.1
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:13.1
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	ohci bus_master
configuration:	
driver	=	ohci-pci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	17
memory	:	c0006000-c0006fff
id:	
usbhost
product: 	OHCI PCI host controller
vendor: 	Linux 4.4.0-21-generic ohci_hcd
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
usb@3
logical name: 	
usb3
version: 	4.04
capabilities: 	usb-1.10
configuration:	
driver	=	hub
slots	=	2
speed	=	12Mbit/s
id:	
usb:2
description: 	USB controller
product: 	SB600 USB (OHCI2)
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
13.2
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:13.2
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	ohci bus_master
configuration:	
driver	=	ohci-pci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	18
memory	:	c0007000-c0007fff
id:	
usbhost
product: 	OHCI PCI host controller
vendor: 	Linux 4.4.0-21-generic ohci_hcd
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
usb@4
logical name: 	
usb4
version: 	4.04
capabilities: 	usb-1.10
configuration:	
driver	=	hub
slots	=	2
speed	=	12Mbit/s
id:	
usb:3
description: 	USB controller
product: 	SB600 USB (OHCI3)
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
13.3
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:13.3
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	ohci bus_master
configuration:	
driver	=	ohci-pci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	17
memory	:	c0008000-c0008fff
id:	
usbhost
product: 	OHCI PCI host controller
vendor: 	Linux 4.4.0-21-generic ohci_hcd
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
usb@5
logical name: 	
usb5
version: 	4.04
capabilities: 	usb-1.10
configuration:	
driver	=	hub
slots	=	2
speed	=	12Mbit/s
id:	
usb:4
description: 	USB controller
product: 	SB600 USB (OHCI4)
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
13.4
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:13.4
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	ohci bus_master
configuration:	
driver	=	ohci-pci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	18
memory	:	c0009000-c0009fff
id:	
usbhost
product: 	OHCI PCI host controller
vendor: 	Linux 4.4.0-21-generic ohci_hcd
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
usb@6
logical name: 	
usb6
version: 	4.04
capabilities: 	usb-1.10
configuration:	
driver	=	hub
slots	=	2
speed	=	12Mbit/s
id:	
usb:5
description: 	USB controller
product: 	SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
13.5
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:13.5
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	ehci-pci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	19
memory	:	c0004400-c00044ff
id:	
usbhost
product: 	EHCI Host Controller
vendor: 	Linux 4.4.0-21-generic ehci_hcd
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
usb@1
logical name: 	
usb1
version: 	4.04
capabilities: 	usb-2.00
configuration:	
driver	=	hub
slots	=	10
speed	=	480Mbit/s
id:	
usb
description: 	Generic USB device
product: 	802.11n WLAN Adapter
vendor: 	Realtek
physical id: 	
3
bus info: 	
usb@1:3
version: 	2.00
serial: 	00e04c000001
capabilities: 	usb-2.00
configuration:	
driver	=	rtl8192cu
maxpower	=	500mA
speed	=	480Mbit/s
id:	
serial
description: 	SMBus
product: 	SBx00 SMBus Controller
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
14
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:14.0
version: 	14
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	ht cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	piix4_smbus
latency	=	0
resources:	
irq	:	0
ioport	:	8410(size=16)
id:	
ide
description: 	IDE interface
product: 	SB600 IDE
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
14.1
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:14.1
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	ide bus_master
configuration:	
driver	=	pata_atiixp
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	16
ioport	:	1f0(size=8)
ioport	:	3f6
ioport	:	170(size=8)
ioport	:	376
ioport	:	8420(size=16)
id:	
multimedia
description: 	Audio device
product: 	SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
14.2
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:14.2
version: 	00
width: 	64 bits
clock: 	33MHz
capabilities: 	pm bus_master cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	snd_hda_intel
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	16
memory	:	c0000000-c0003fff
id:	
isa
description: 	ISA bridge
product: 	SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
14.3
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:14.3
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	isa bus_master
configuration:	
latency	=	0
id:	
pci:3
description: 	PCI bridge
product: 	SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 	
14.4
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:14.4
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	66MHz
capabilities: 	pci subtractive_decode bus_master
resources:	
memory	:	c0300000-c03fffff
id:	
network
description: 	Ethernet interface
product: 	BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX
vendor: 	Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 	
0
bus info: 	
pci@0000:08:00.0
logical name: 	
eth0
version: 	02
serial: 	00:21:70:7c:b2:e8
size: 	10Mbit/s
capacity: 	100Mbit/s
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
capabilities: 	pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration:	
autonegotiation	=	on
broadcast	=	yes
driver	=	b44
driverversion	=	2.0
duplex	=	half
latency	=	64
link	=	no
multicast	=	yes
port	=	twisted pair
speed	=	10Mbit/s
resources:	
irq	:	21
memory	:	c0300000-c0301fff
id:	
generic:0
description: 	SD Host controller
product: 	R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter
vendor: 	Ricoh Co Ltd
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
pci@0000:08:01.0
version: 	22
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
capabilities: 	pm bus_master cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	sdhci-pci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	20
memory	:	c0302800-c03028ff
id:	
generic:1
description: 	System peripheral
product: 	R5C843 MMC Host Controller
vendor: 	Ricoh Co Ltd
physical id: 	
1.1
bus info: 	
pci@0000:08:01.1
version: 	12
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
capabilities: 	pm bus_master cap_list
configuration:	
driver	=	sdhci-pci
latency	=	64
resources:	
irq	:	20
memory	:	c0302c00-c0302cff
id:	
pci:1
description: 	Host bridge
product: 	K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 	
101
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:18.0
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
id:	
pci:2
description: 	Host bridge
product: 	K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 	
102
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:18.1
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
id:	
pci:3
description: 	Host bridge
product: 	K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 	
103
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:18.2
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
id:	
pci:4
description: 	Host bridge
product: 	K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
vendor: 	Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 	
104
bus info: 	
pci@0000:00:18.3
version: 	00
width: 	32 bits
clock: 	33MHz
configuration:	
driver	=	k8temp
resources:	
irq	:	0
id:	
scsi:0
physical id: 	
2
logical name: 	
scsi0
capabilities: 	emulated
id:	
disk
description: 	ATA Disk
product: 	WDC WD1600BEVT-7
vendor: 	Western Digital
physical id: 	
0.0.0
bus info: 	
scsi@0:0.0.0
logical name: 	
/dev/sda
version: 	1A11
serial: 	WD-WXEX08TA2552
size: 	149GiB (160GB)
capabilities: 	partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration:	
ansiversion	=	5
logicalsectorsize	=	512
sectorsize	=	512
signature	=	a8000000
id:	
volume:0
description: 	Windows FAT volume
vendor: 	Dell 8.0
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
scsi@0:0.0.0,1
logical name: 	
/dev/sda1
version: 	FAT16
serial: 	07d8-0a11
size: 	101MiB
capacity: 	101MiB
capabilities: 	primary fat initialized
configuration:	
FATs	=	2
filesystem	=	fat
label	=	DellUtility
id:	
volume:1
description: 	Windows NTFS volume
physical id: 	
2
bus info: 	
scsi@0:0.0.0,2
logical name: 	
/dev/sda2
version: 	3.1
serial: 	a05ac8aa-3763-5744-a421-b5f9ef1e8c09
size: 	10233MiB
capacity: 	10GiB
capabilities: 	primary ntfs initialized
configuration:	
clustersize	=	4096
created	=	2008-10-17 21:57:54
filesystem	=	ntfs
label	=	RECOVERY
state	=	clean
id:	
volume:2
description: 	Windows NTFS volume
physical id: 	
3
bus info: 	
scsi@0:0.0.0,3
logical name: 	
/dev/sda3
version: 	3.1
serial: 	b85d77dd-8c14-064d-8459-85921bb34932
size: 	138GiB
capacity: 	138GiB
capabilities: 	primary bootable ntfs initialized
configuration:	
clustersize	=	4096
created	=	2008-10-17 21:57:59
filesystem	=	ntfs
label	=	OS
state	=	clean
id:	
scsi:1
physical id: 	
3
logical name: 	
scsi4
capabilities: 	emulated
id:	
cdrom
description: 	DVD reader
product: 	CDRWDVD TSL462D
vendor: 	TSSTcorp
physical id: 	
0.0.0
bus info: 	
scsi@4:0.0.0
logical name: 	
/dev/cdrom
logical name: 	
/dev/cdrw
logical name: 	
/dev/dvd
logical name: 	
/dev/sr0
logical name: 	
/cdrom
version: 	DE09
capabilities: 	removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd
configuration:	
ansiversion	=	5
mount.fstype	=	iso9660
mount.options	=	ro,noatime
state	=	mounted
status	=	ready
id:	
medium
physical id: 	
0
logical name: 	
/dev/cdrom
logical name: 	
/cdrom
capabilities: 	partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration:	
mount.fstype	=	iso9660
mount.options	=	ro,noatime
signature	=	43694d2e
state	=	mounted
id:	
volume
description: 	Windows FAT volume
vendor: 	mkfs.fat
physical id: 	
2
version: 	FAT12
serial: 	b1f5-0a13
size: 	15EiB
capabilities: 	primary boot fat initialized
configuration:	
FATs	=	2
filesystem	=	fat
id:	
network
description: 	Wireless interface
physical id: 	
1
bus info: 	
usb@1:3
logical name: 	
wlx74da3861f3e6
serial: 	74:da:38:61:f3:e6
capabilities: 	ethernet physical wireless
configuration:	
broadcast	=	yes
driver	=	rtl8192cu
driverversion	=	4.4.0-21-generic
firmware	=	N/A
ip	=	192.168.1.105
link	=	yes
multicast	=	yes
wireless	=	IEEE 802.11bgn

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[JoeFootball]

... still get 32bit Width at the host bridge

And probably with other items as well, as I'm sure not every single component of your system is of a 64-bit variety.

[borgward]

Most of them are 32bit, some are 64bit. I can run 64bit OS live. Does that mean I can install 64bit OS, Providing I have enough RAM? Owners Manual sites a 2 GB RAM limit. I am guessing it can see just under 3 GB of RAM. That sounds like a 32bit system.

[JoeFootball]

I can run 64bit OS live. Does that mean I can install 64bit OS, Providing I have enough RAM?

Yes, you should.

Owners Manual sites a 2 GB RAM limit.

2 GBs is what's recommended for comfortable usage for LM 18.3 Xfce.

I am guessing it can see just under 3 GB of RAM. That sounds like a 32bit system.

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but regardless, I'd try the 64-bit version. Or stick with 32-bit if that makes you more comfortable.