Most don't know the history of "thru" and "tho," etc.
https://www.history.com/news/theodore-r ... ontroversy
Most don't know the history of "thru" and "tho," etc.
Pjotr wrote: ⤴Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:11 pm Things that are logically wrong in any language:
1. "Like me" instead of "like I". It should be: "someone like I (am)". The "am" can be omitted, but "I" is the subject, not the object.
2. Double negatives intended to mean a single negative: "I never have no money" means I always have money, not that I never have (any) money.
This second error is very frequent in the Dutch dialect (Brabants) that's being spoken where I live: "nooit geen", and the very worst of them all (which is so badly wrong that it becomes sort of cute): "dè witte oit noit nie".
Double negatives are not "logically wrong in any language" any more than calling "cheese" "fromage" is wrong. Language, grammar, vocabulary are all matters of convention. If the speakers of a language all agree that double negatives reinforce each other then that is the way they will interpret it.Pardon him. Theodotus: he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Caesar and Cleopatra
the order of operations, L-R or R-L, is a matter of convention.https://www.insider.com/viral-math-prob ... net-2019-7
Math problem: 8 ÷ 2(2 + 2) = ?
Some people got 16 as the answer, and some people got 1.
The confusion has to do with the difference between modern and historic interpretations of the order of operations.
The correct answer today is 16. An answer of 1 would have been correct 100 years ago.
Really? It wasn't that long ago I learned it should be 1. But that was in Canada, so who knows. 1 is probably metric for 16.GS3 wrote: ⤴Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:49 pmthe order of operations, L-R or R-L, is a matter of convention.https://www.insider.com/viral-math-prob ... net-2019-7
Math problem: 8 ÷ 2(2 + 2) = ?
Some people got 16 as the answer, and some people got 1.
The confusion has to do with the difference between modern and historic interpretations of the order of operations.
The correct answer today is 16. An answer of 1 would have been correct 100 years ago.
8 / (2 * 4) =1
(8 /2) * 4 = 16
Yes. The fall of that year started out with hope but the situation turned very dark quickly.
Szivessen.absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:37 am Nagyon köszönöm a becenevem fordítását. Az "ablak mentes" egy osztály elegánsabb, mint amilyen az én korlátozott "ablak nelkül" lenne.
My best grade ever was a B+jjp2145-oldtimer wrote: ⤴Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:29 am Your grammar is fine, but English is clearly not your first language. I would be pulling my hair out if you were a native speaker and you got straight A's in your high school English classes. By the way I am not an English teacher; I just wanted the editing practice.
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Again from personal experience. If you are in your mid teens or older the syntax of your native language is already ingrained. It is a habit. We all know how hard it is to change a habit. Sometimes, I still have problems with the proper usage punctuation marks.Portreve wrote: ⤴Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:24 pm When I was working with students at the local college, here are the most common grammar mistakes I found coming from the ESL crowd:
The student would try to use their own native language's grammar rules in an English sentence.
The student would write things in passive instead of active form.
Example: The baseball was caught by me. Should be: I caught the baseball.
Failure to comprehend the proper use of commas (and, to a lesser extent, semicolons and full colons).
That happens to me a lot and I usually catch it when I proof read but it is not a matter of making a mistake in spelling; I believe there is more than that at work, I believe it is related to how my (our) brain is wired. Many spelling mistakes are only typos that can be explained by keys being next to each other on the keyboard, like i, o, u. But I believe a and e are a special case because I often interchange them when I know perfectly well what letter goes where.
Though the worst writing appears to be by those who's language is English.
Ask a Chinese person "Wow, it is so late! Didn't you have lunch yet?" and a yes or no response is absolutely confusing for a foreigner.
'Whose'.
Hoose.
To tell the truth... I can't even remember what I was taught. And I studied engineering! I think we just used parenthesis to avoid any ambiguity or confusion.
Thank you Moem. You have proved my previous statement "Never proof your own work."
For simpler Maths, BODMAS, is a helpful acronym. Although being pedantic, it's not actually an acronym as we need to ignore the 'O'.GS3 wrote: ⤴Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:23 amTo tell the truth... I can't even remember what I was taught. And I studied engineering! I think we just used parenthesis to avoid any ambiguity or confusion.
Another solution is to paste the formula into Excel and see what it says. And anyone who disagrees can go argue with Bill Gates.
Just a thought - Whose' language.