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IPv4 Address Changes & No Internet

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Hail Minters:

This has happen about three to four times in the last two weeks. For some reason,
the IPv4 address changes from 192.168.-.- to 172.27.35.-- with the lose of Internet. :shock:

The wifi keeps working, but the Ethernet is kaput. Does anyone know why this happens?
Is it the manifestation of the NSA, CIA, DHS or other governmental units :?:

I hope someone could of helf, as this is madding and a big waste of my time. Someone suggested
a fresh install [in the produce department, with a hair net] but that will require a lot of hours as well.

I even did a time shift and it appeared to do nothing to solve the issue. Would a static address do the trick :?:
I am not even sure what I did to change back to the original IPv4 address. I thought the modem was going
out, until I hooked up the laptop.

Frank you most kindly.
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Maybe try a different DNS server, here's Google:
https://www.instructables.com/id/Connec ... inux-Mint/
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Sleeper, thanks for the suggestion. Done. I hope this is a
fix. I went with Cloud Flare, rather than the Do Evil Folks.
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Hope that works out for you, let us know. :wink:
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Sleeper, lost Internet again. The bloody Ipv4 number changed once more.

Is there a way to keep a static address, like the one that works :?:
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I think it would be best to wait for someone who knows more about that than I do. Meanwhile, have a look here:
https://devopspoints.com/linux-mint-set ... ic-ip.html
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Neighbors?
I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
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sleeper12 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:23 pm I think it would be best to wait for someone who knows more about that than I do. Meanwhile, have a look here:
https://devopspoints.com/linux-mint-set ... ic-ip.html
Sleeper, thanks for the link. :mrgreen:

Now this is very strange. I changed out the HDD SATA cable and attached
the one which was on the HDD with Mint and booted the PC. Holely Cow, my
IPv4 number came back [192.] and I had Internet. I reversed the cables again
and had the same issues, with an IPv4 address of [172] and no Internet. Both
of these cable run to the SATA connection on the mamaboard. :shock: :roll:

I am not sure why this is happening :?: :!: What difference now does this SATA
port make.

I was wong about the modem and router, as our IP pinged the line and said it was
functioning. I am still scathing my head and listening to the Grateful Dead.
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I messed up the OS by trying to transfer it to another HDD.

I had to reinstall Mint and once again the IPv4 changed to [172], however,
this time there was no issue with connecting to the Internet. Apparently, the
SATA cables going to the HDDs had nothing to do with this.

I am now thinking there was an installation issue with the first install. BTW, this
fresh install took 17 minutes to finish. I had boot and Grub conflicts. Other OSs
[four] would not even install. I am surprise that the OS Debbie 4 login page came up,
which was installed on a second HDD but would not open as the password was
continuously rejected. Mint 19.1 now is operating like it should, including the login
page.
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It is nice to score a victory every once in a while.

At this point, the changing of the IPv4 address is not germane.
The reason my Internet was dropping or not working at all, was that
I had placed both Cloud Flare IPs in the same DNS box. After placing
1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 in separate boxes the problems appears to be fixed. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

:arrow: https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1 ... 1.1/linux/

The same thing must be done with IPv6 address. BTW, I changed to Cloud Flare,
as they keep logs for only 24 hours. Your local provider it is more than likely months
on end and a sources of revenue as this data is sold to the marketplace.
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Wow, glad you figured that all out :!: :D
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Thanks so much, Sleeper ! The clue for me was dat my MicroGates 7
was functioning with the network correction perfectly. This told me that
I had an issue with a Mint setting and that it was more my doing than the OS
itself.

BTW, I go Instructables.com each and every day. It is a wonderful website
with monster ratings.
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Well, Sleeper, I spoke to early. I am still having on and off issues.
The only thing that has changed, is I do not get two different dialogue boxes
for setting the network. Even the working MX-Linux now will not connect.

It was either a bad download; operator error; or defects in Linux. I did find
several possible solutions, however, they required a dozen or so of command lines.

I am not going to spend more than a hour or two fixing this issue. I personal think this
is an issue with Linux and it's by-products. It is not the modem either, as the IPS pinged
it and found no issues. And yes, Mr Softie works with no issues.

I have ordered three DVD OSs from Disc.com and will reinstall. If this fails, well then it
is good bye to Linux; as I have spend almost as much time trying to find solutions to varies
OS issue than the Internet itself. I will never again use a ISO or torrence for software,
unless there is no alternative.

I know all OSs have operational issues, but this is just too much @#$%. At this point, I
would not recommend Linux or any of it's derivatives to the average computer user. I would
give Mint documentation a grade F. MX-Linux get a grade of A-.

I am keeping my figures cross, dat I either find a answer to this network problem or the
factory DVD OSs install successfully.

I have also order "The Linux Command Line 2nd edition" and prepared to order others
if it will make Linux OSs work and comprehend.

Gee, I put in a command line and once again the forum's software crosses out my post. :cry: :evil: :evil:
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I believe now this maybe a browser setting issue within FF, however,
I am going to wait for a full week of use with both MX-Linux and Mint 20,
to see if in fact it is the problem.

I have monkeyed with this setting before with no positive results. There is
little in the way of information, as to what setting to use and why, if there
is a failure with the default setting.

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: https://www.howtogeek.com/293213/how-to ... n-firefox/
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Thanks
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Ali Novian, thank you for your thanks.

Currently, I am having no issues with either Mint 20 and Manjaro. :mrgreen:
I do not know why but under the Identity tab, Mint shows a MAC Address, however,
in Manjaro, the MAC address is blank. :? :?

I seriously doubt I will ever come up with an answer.

The Mx-Linux 19.2 OS would not accept my password and was replaced
with 18 which required no login password. It also accessed the Internet with
no issues.
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In the past week I have had no issue with network connection.
The last time I did, I changed the wired connection 1 to
profile 1 and got connected to the Internet. The other time,
I changed from profile 1 to wired connection 1 and linked to the web.

I can now state unequivocally, that receiving a different IPv4
address had no effect whether I had Internet or not.

Not sure why the network issue was resolved, however, I did purchase
a Mint voodoo doll. :twisted:
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That particular voodoo doll only works for network issues. If you have any other problems, go to your vendor and get one for whatever other problem you're having. :lol:
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Larry78723 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:25 pm That particular voodoo doll only works for network issues. If you have any other problems, go to your vendor and get one for whatever other problem you're having. :lol:
Damm, Larry, I never thought about dat. :idea: :mrgreen:
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After ten days of no network issue it happened again. I booted into Dows 7
and had to fix network issues. Then both Mint 20 and Manjaro 20 had the
same issue. This time I simply click network off and on and I had Internet again.

Since this failed on three different OSs, one must conclude it is not a software issue
but rather hardware issue. What it could be, I do not know. Is it a aging modem or
is the Ethernet card defect :?: :?:
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