Linux is a communist plot

[distro hopper]

This topic reminds me of an old RIAA comic... anybody remember the original? ..

[Fred]

Please everybody, don't let this thread turn sour. Be careful what you post. Remember, when you bring politics and or religion into a forum, especially an international forum, you are bound to stimulate strong emotions and get sparks. It is really easy to get out onto thin ice, so-to-speak.

Don't let it deteriorate and create hard feelings that will serve no useful purpose and ultimately interfere with the mission of this forum. I am not saying that it is over the line, just that it could easily go that way if everyone isn't careful.

Thanks,

Fred

[Nicki]

Topics like this one, is likely suicide able as that one I saw in the Mandriva forum. (Yes, I like Mandriva also.) That one had a topic about "Mandriva is becoming a disaster". The whole system was a mess and everything went bad. He said it was just for fun, to see other peoples reaction. I just wonder what is the meaning of such topics. Do you think he is a responsible person in such forum? I wouldn't dare to take his answer as serious if he gave me an answer about my hardware/driver/sound issues.

With respect for the forum
Nicki

[FedoraRefugee]

Nicki,

I think YOU are the one who is over the line in here. I think you misunderstood what the original post was about. The site he linked is VERY offensive to many people, but you have to realize it is a spoof, a joke. It was written by idiots TRYING to make people mad. Dont take it like that. Laugh it off.

The MAJORITY of people do NOT think like a far right lunatic like the shellytherepublican blog portrays, nor do most people think on the far left as red communists. I wont even get into all the misrepresentations of different political ideals that is going on in this forum other than to say that ANY TIME you try to pigeon hole someone's beliefs you are probably making a grave error!

At any rate Nicki, you are becoming very confrontational towards the original poster when he is NOT saying the things you are accusing him of! His intent was to point out that some people really think this way though I seriously doubt ANYONE thinks this way! This blog has been angering people for years now, in that sense they are very successful. It is just ashame that so many fall for it when it is so obviously fake. No wonder this country is in such a mess when the left sees the right like this and the right views the left in a similar light. We have come to the point where we look at each other TRYING to find things to hate instead of finding things in common. God help us.

[Nicki]

Well, If I had make you or other upset, then I have to apologize. But what about me or other people out there?

FedoraRefugee, you wrote: "The site he linked is VERY offensive to many people, but you have to realize it is a spoof, a joke. It was written by idiots TRYING to make people mad." What are those idiots TRYING to make people mad? Isn't this a copy of react? For God sake, what is fake and what isn't? Is your answer a fake? No, I don't think so. Let's continue this discussion on an other planet.

[Shaddix]

this site is actually so stupid that it becomes funny

that guy is admiring IBM as a pure American Company, yet IBM has more people working for them in Asia than in the USA

his much loved Microsoft has leeched more from other OS than they did from Microsoft

from the comments:

Also I suspect that this Mac OS is sending personal information to Apple and other communist companies and organizations!

this guy is so smart lol

And I must also add that the link of terrorism and linux is not even hidden, if you take a look at website like this one : http://plf.zarb.org/about.php

Linux is just a anarchist invention aiming at bringing chaos and death everywhere in the world. I am still amazed to see that no one is able to see the truth in their games.

eerrhmm...

from the blog owner:

Tristan, I believe you!
This rj guy is probably a typical liberal liar.
Most of the internet is running on linux? Don’t make me laugh!!!
I used linux once. It’s terrible.

why laugh about something you don't know a single thing about? her own blog is running on a Linux machine...

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Anonymous April 26th, 2006 6:06 AM

too bad ShelleyTheRepublican.com
blogs is hosted on linux as shown by the nmap port scanner.

# nmap -O shelleytherepublican.com
…
Running: Linux 2.4.X|2.5.X, D-Link embedded
OS details: Linux 2.4.0 – 2.5.20, Linux 2.4.18 – 2.4.20, Linux 2.4.26, Linux 2.4.27 or D-Link DSL-500T (running linux 2.4)

Time to put your acts where your words are and find a linux-free hosting solution.
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Shelley April 26th, 2006 6:15 AM

Sorry, I think you are a liar.
Me and linux hosting? Never!

some comments from the author:

Thanks for posting my article Shelley; I submitted this to the mainstream IT press, but none of them wanted to know. It’s shocking to learn that the same liberal bias that infects mainstream news-sources also affects the technical press.

why would that be?

Yes, Linux is a primative European clone; It is much less capable than Windows. In fact it omits features that were standard in Windows back in 1998; For example Linux has no built-in anti-virus or anti-spyware software. You cannot even buy popular utilities like Norton Security to compensate for this fact. There are no tools for common tasks like defragging a hard disk. God knows what you would use to send a fax or make a website. You cannot even get Front Page for Linux.

this proofs he doesn't know what he's talking about

Indeed, if Blogger.com were using Linux I have no idea how they might have done it? I understand that you cannot get most popular web-site building tools (e.g Frontpage, Dreamweaver) for Linux.

I was surprised a guy who writes this was able to mail this article to the blog...

Oh my God, stop whining and complaining. I am telling you. I would never use Linux. It’s disgusting. I am using real AMERICAN software only. Everything else is for the Godless.
You need to turn to God and face the real you. You might be shocked.
Kindest of regards,
Shelley

so God is only with the Americans and not with the rest of the world?

[FedoraRefugee]

<slapping head>

this site is actually so stupid that it becomes funny

YES!!! That is IT!!!

Sheesh people...IT IS A JOKE!!! The site is NOT REAL!!!

Let me try to put this in simple terms. In America you have 2 main political parties. Republicans = right and Democrats = left. Each party has certain "characteristics" that the other side blows out of proportion so they have material to insult each other with. What this blog does is bring out these characteristics of the far right to make republicans look dumb. The site is NOT WRITTEN BY REPUBLICANS!!! It is a spoof ON republicans. It is designed to make the Republicans look stupid by claiming things that are not true or so far exaggerated they are ludicrous. Linux simply got caught up in a much bigger design in this blog, I am sure the writer of the piece was not counting on this single post having this much attention or impact. It says a lot about the mentality of the typical Linux user that it has. Talk about Linux and everyone goes ballistic. I dont think the blog writer fully realized this, or maybe they did. Either way, it has propelled shellytherepublican into mainstream fame! Linux users are all yelling and fighting back and the whole bloody thing is just a joke! One that happened THREE YEARS AGO! Check the date! It is STILL going on! Lol! It makes US look like the idiots! In our defense, many Linux users are not American and really do not understand what is happening here or the reasons why it was done. It is purely a political thing, nothing even to do with Linux.

Okay, I have laid it all out as plain as possible. The blog is not real, it is a joke. If you think it is a BAD joke then so be it. Join the club, though I do respect the shellytherepublican blog for their cleverness it is still foolishness. Some people just make a sport out of making fun of and hurting others. The truth is there are very few people who would actually hold the kind of ideas depicted in this blog. Those that do are held in contempt even by their own political party. They are wackos, crazies, not to be taken seriously. Now, if anyone in here still wants to take this thing seriously and rip apart every blog piece by piece then feel free. You are wasting your time. Of course the blog is full of holes, of course it is wrong. It is intended to be that way to show how hard headed and stupid republicans are. (their view, not mine. I am much more republican than I am democrat myself). It is not to be taken seriously.

[catilley]

That "comic" is not funny to me at all. It doesn't belong in a free society and does not reflect the ideas of the Linux family. Someone must be paying off the ones who online promotes these sickening ideas. I guess they are getting what they want when those like myself and many others of the Linux family speak up: ATTENTION! Please, for everyone's sake, mark this one as [SOLVED]. There are a lot of newbies such as myself who are on this forum for guidance, they read this mess and it makes them wonder if Linux users are a bunch of nuts. Some of them may never return. Now we don't want that, do we? I want Linux, especially Mint, to thrive. This is the best OS that Linux offers, in my opinion. Let's keep it that way.

[Nicki]

catilley: 10 points by me. And this is TRUE. Not a fake.

[tomast]

Something equally as disturbing

http://spongebob.nick.com/games/play/sp ... n-no-gain/

[distro hopper]

That "comic" is not funny to me at all. It doesn't belong in a free society and does not reflect the ideas of the Linux family.

In a free society, thats one of the ideals that makes up freedom; the ability to say something as looney-toons as is might sound to everyone else. You take the ability to do that away.. and we've lost freedom.

Someone must be paying off the ones who online promotes these sickening ideas. I guess they are getting what they want when those like myself and many others of the Linux family speak up: ATTENTION! Please, for everyone's sake, mark this one as [SOLVED]. There are a lot of newbies such as myself who are on this forum for guidance, they read this mess and it makes them wonder if Linux users are a bunch of nuts. Some of them may never return. Now we don't want that, do we? I want Linux, especially Mint, to thrive. This is the best OS that Linux offers, in my opinion. Let's keep it that way.

The entire open source community is somewhat of a communist idea. Look up the semantics of COMMUNE/COMMUNITY/COMMUNISM. People tend to get all freaked out about the C word because they confuse it with some kind of Fascist regime (like Stalin or even the Chinese). Don't make that same mistake.

Linux is not about ramming itself down somebody's throat. In fact it thrives on the fact that people choose it of their own free will! There is nothing fascist about Linux, it is the winning underdog in a commercial world despite it's communal roots and people who use it know it's better than commerical (or any non-commercial) OSes out there.

There's nothing wrong with Communism or Socialism, silly brainwashed Americans.

[catilley]

No, it is something wrong with communism and socialism. It's terrible in the year of 2009 that people hang on to these ideas. They all have failed. I don't want to belong to any of these groups. But we live in America, so you are FREE to believe in what you want, no matter how sick it is. To each his (or her) own. As for me, LET FREEDOM REIGN!

[FedoraRefugee]

Havent you heard? America is now socialist.

<ouch, he didnt just go there >

[dlkreations]

This thread should be moved to open chat.

[lagagnon]

No, it is something wrong with communism and socialism. It's terrible in the year of 2009 that people hang on to these ideas. They all have failed.

Communism may have, but Socialism most certainly has not failed. In fact, the democratically socialist countries of Scandinavia are considered by the United Nations to have the best and safest lifestyle of any on earth. Their cities are safe, the people are overall happier than many other countries on earth, the governments work, there is great education and health care for all and the economies are relatively vibrant... etc etc...

[catilley]

lagognon, no offense to you at all, but mabye I don't understand all there is to know about socialism. When I think of socialism, Adolf Hitler is the first person that comes to my mind. There is no need for me to explain his actions, we all know them. This kind of government flashes in my mind whenever socialism is mentioned. And, as someone else has said, this country is headed that way, for whatever that means. I just enjoy living in a free democratic society. Whether it is communism or socialism, there are freedoms lost. The government rules, no matter what. If you oppose these governments, you become a political prisoner and are treated brutally. You are told what kind of profession to work in, what home to live in, what doctor to go to, etc. In Canada, where medical care is socialized, patients go to India to get treatment, because the doctors make you wait so long for some procedures. And I know that our health care system is going to head to a similar position. They are going to tell you how to live if you are being treated for certain conditions. For example, if you are being treated for lung cancer and you continue to smoke, your treatment will most likely be discontinued. If you are obese, they are going to put you on a diet and you must stick to it, or you will be cut off. And there are rumors of "death panels" to discontinue aggressive treatments and give them pain relief only if they are chronically ill. Well, I fit into the third group that I described. As you can imagine, I don't like the idea of it at all. What will be next? Putting the mentally unsound, the terminally ill, the chronically ill and so forth to "sleep"? These are the things that comes to mind when I think of communism and socialism. Are you really for this? I hope not, because anyone can easily "fall" into one of these groups by the government. And your family will get basically a "form letter" stating falsely that you had a heart attack, or some other lie, when in fact they gassed you. This is exactly the way the holocaust started. The government lying. But it got too big for them to conceal. I'm not for this at all. This thread was said to be a "joke" when it started. Well, it's not one. And yes, by living in a democracy, we all have the freedom of speech and perhaps I was wrong when I said that we shouldn't be thinking or speaking of these ideas. But I have the freedom as well to blast these sickening ideas and I will continue to do so. Long live freedom and democracy! Down with the communists and socialists! How in the hell did this topic get onto a computing forum?

[Nicki]

........... Down with the communists and socialists! How in the hell did this topic get onto a computing forum?

Yes, how in the hell did this topic get onto a computing forum? So you have no idea? Did your finger stumbled on the keyboard?

[markfiend]

lagognon, no offense to you at all, but mabye I don't understand all there is to know about socialism.

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Well, let's try to help you

When I think of socialism, Adolf Hitler is the first person that comes to my mind.

Hitler was anything but a socialist. Yes, the **** party was the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" (National Socialist German Workers' Party) but their politics was as far from Socialism as it's possible to get.

There is no need for me to explain his actions, we all know them. This kind of government flashes in my mind whenever socialism is mentioned. And, as someone else has said, this country is headed that way, for whatever that means.

Um. Not really. The USA is in no danger of becoming a socialist country. Limited (and it will be extremely limited) socialisation of healthcare provision does not a socialist country make. As it is, the (public) education system, many of the roads, the police-force, and many other public services in the US are taxpayer-funded, i.e. socialised. Does this make America a socialist country? So why is healthcare any different?

I just enjoy living in a free democratic society. Whether it is communism or socialism, there are freedoms lost. The government rules, no matter what. If you oppose these governments, you become a political prisoner and are treated brutally.

So that doesn't happen in the USA? *cough* Guantanamo *cough* But seriously, this doesn't happen in the real world. Another poster mentioned Sweden as an example of a socialist country: do you seriously think that Sweden imprisons political dissidents? You're talking about totalitarianism, not socialism.

You are told what kind of profession to work in, what home to live in, what doctor to go to, etc. In Canada, where medical care is socialized, patients go to India to get treatment, because the doctors make you wait so long for some procedures.

As a wikipedian might say... [citation needed]

And I know that our health care system is going to head to a similar position. They are going to tell you how to live if you are being treated for certain conditions. For example, if you are being treated for lung cancer and you continue to smoke, your treatment will most likely be discontinued. If you are obese, they are going to put you on a diet and you must stick to it, or you will be cut off.

None of these things happen with the British (socialised) health-care system. Sure, they encourage you to quit smoking, cut down on the booze, lose weight etc. but your treatment won't stop if you don't.

And there are rumors of "death panels" to discontinue aggressive treatments and give them pain relief only if they are chronically ill.

"Rumours" that are completely unfounded, "rumours" that were started by folks like Rush Limbaugh simply to whip up fear, uncertainty and doubt about healthcare reforms. Working well, isn't it?

Well, I fit into the third group that I described. As you can imagine, I don't like the idea of it at all. What will be next? Putting the mentally unsound, the terminally ill, the chronically ill and so forth to "sleep"? These are the things that comes to mind when I think of communism and socialism. Are you really for this? I hope not, because anyone can easily "fall" into one of these groups by the government. And your family will get basically a "form letter" stating falsely that you had a heart attack, or some other lie, when in fact they gassed you. This is exactly the way the holocaust started. The government lying. But it got too big for them to conceal. I'm not for this at all. This thread was said to be a "joke" when it started. Well, it's not one. And yes, by living in a democracy, we all have the freedom of speech and perhaps I was wrong when I said that we shouldn't be thinking or speaking of these ideas. But I have the freedom as well to blast these sickening ideas and I will continue to do so. Long live freedom and democracy! Down with the communists and socialists! How in the hell did this topic get onto a computing forum?

You have no idea how ridiculous this all sounds to someone who is living in a country with a socialised healthcare system. America spends more per-capita on healthcare than any other country in the G20. Guess what position the USA is in terms of healthcare outcomes? I'll give you a clue, it's not in the top 19.

To the moderators: I hope this reply isn't too much of a flame, I have tried to restrain myself.

[Husse]

This has developed beyond the acceptable for this forum
The original post referred to a blog calling Linux is a communist plot which is so stupid that it is funny
If the blog is genuine or a fake to make fun of ultra right wing ideas I don't know, seems genuine to me but I don't live in the US
I'll lock the topic, it has taken a bad turn and the "Obama is a socialist" people start popping up so it has become a political debate rather than comments about the blog linked to in the first post