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I don't understand why anybody wouldn't keep their computer updated. I wonder if they also keep their doors unlocked at night. :?
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Schultz wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:00 am
I don't understand why anybody wouldn't keep their computer updated...
Same here, especially since Linux makes it so quick and easy and allows you to choose when to update. If using Timeshift, it's also easy to recover if an update goes south (which I haven't encountered yet).
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Don't scare people like that! I thought that some new serial issue or linux virus appeared!
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AlithinosMakethonas wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:18 am
Don't scare people like that! I thought that some new serial issue or linux virus appeared!
I decided to read it before reacting, and as I update regularly - thanks Clem for providing a bit of insight.
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AlithinosMakethonas wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:18 am
Don't scare people like that! I thought that some new serial issue or linux virus appeared!
Sometimes it takes a scare to get people to do what they should have been doing all along.
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Well, I upgraded my Windows 10 to Linux Mint XFCE, does that count? ;)
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SantaFe wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:48 pm
Well, I upgraded my Windows 10 to Linux Mint XFCE, does that count? ;)
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clem wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:16 am
https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4030
I couldn't agree more. At least I know within the Linux Mint world ( unlike windows) an update won't nuke any data I have an any storage drives that I could possibly " link" a folder library too . xD
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Thread derailment from this Announcement thread cleaned up.
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Just transcribing what I posted on the blog:

"February 21, 2021 at 2:46 am
The title:
“Update your computer!”
It conveys a meaning different from that desired.

I believe that:
“Update your system!”
It would be better."
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Today's treat for updating Mint 20/20.1 is Thunderbird 78 at last :wink:
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Schultz wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:00 am
I don't understand why anybody wouldn't keep their computer updated. I wonder if they also keep their doors unlocked at night. :?
Some people subscribe to the "If it ain't broke then don't fix it" principle.

Unfortunately with something as complicated as software it's often difficult to know if it's broken. It may appear to be working completely fine on the surface and yet still harbour a massive security flaw that is just sitting there waiting for someone to discover and take advantage of.

That's why I subscribe to the preventative maintenance principle. If there are things that I can do to keep things running smoothly then I do them: I get my car serviced every six months, I trim the trees so their leaves won't clog up my guttering, I install software updates.
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antikythera wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:41 pm
Today's treat for updating Mint 20/20.1 is Thunderbird 78 at last :wink:
Strictly speaking: no, no need to upgrade to Mint 20.x in order to get Thunderbird through Update Manager. Works on my LM 18.1 and 19.3. Has worked since 78.3 or 78.4 here. [1]
But I guess permitting Update Manager to do its job, i.e. installing available updates, on still supported LM releases like e.g. 18.1 and 19.3 should be covered by Clem's blog post as well. :)
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I know there's been alternate methods available for some time but 78 being in the focal repository at last is indeed a bonus
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Following Clem's advice, today this computer, where I am typing now, has received a 5.4.0 kernel update plus some more updates. :)

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$ inxi -Sx3z
System:    Kernel: 5.4.0-66-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 tk: GTK 3.22.30 
           wm: muffin 4.4.4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Looking at the age, which most of the machines around here have reached (10+), I start wondering whether "Update your computer!" should not be applied to my hardware in the first place. :roll:
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karlchen wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:11 pm
Looking at the age, which most of the machines around here have reached (10+), I start wondering whether "Update your computer!" should not be applied to my hardware in the first place. :roll:
I agree entirely with that sentiment. There is going to come a point when they are so painfully slow it will be necessary regardless of how concerned about throwing away 'perfectly good' hardware the owner is. It's false economy of time and electricity to sit in front of an older machine waiting for it to process what a modern one can in a fraction of the time.

Additionally, kernel module developers do not support hardware forever either.

The argument about not being able to afford something newer is easily negated by not buying as much beer or whatever else they use disposable income on for a few months. It's called saving up ;)
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I will sometimes hold back on a kernel or gpu update till the weekend so I'm not dealing with a possible issue in the middle of a work-week.
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shockedquartz wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:22 pm
so I'm not dealing with a possible issue in the middle of a work-week.
That's what timeshift is for, it takes minutes not hours to rollback from problem updates even via live media using the last known good snapshot if you cannot boot to a working desktop environment from your installation. So take one before updating and you are all set.
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