May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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Hi,

I have linux mint and win10 dual boot.
Mint in a nvme m2 and win10 in a ssd.
And I have a 1tb hd.

I create a partition in the 1tb hd NTFS so this way both mint and win10 can ready it.
This partition I use to save big files in general as torrents, files coming from the browser downloads, some other projects to save.
I will not install any program on that partition. Only storage.

Any problem with this? I set the firefox on min to save to this partition NTFS.
This partition and other NTFS are showing on mint as volumes that I can unmount, any problem?

Thanks
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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Hey and welcome to the forum and linux mint, the support for ntfs filesystem in linux have been improved with the kernal 5,15 witch comes as default with linux mint 21so it should not be any problem with that setup.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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mikaelrask wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:56 pm Hey and welcome to the forum and linux mint, the support for ntfs filesystem in linux have been improved with the kernal 5,15 witch comes as default with linux mint 21so it should not be any problem with that setup.
Thank you !!
The partitions(all them are NTFS) appears as volumes and it respective size on the Mint file manager.
If I click on a partition, the symbol of unmount appears in front it.

It's normal? Can I rename this specific partition that I use for save files for both (Mint and Win10)?
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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gapent wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:12 pm It's normal? Can I rename this specific partition that I use for save files for both (Mint and Win10)?
Yes, to rename a partition add a label to it, you can do this with disks or gparted. If you add a label to a partition, e.g. mylabel, it will appear as mylabel in the devices pane in the file manager.

Linux is case sensitive so Mylabel is not the same as mylabel and it is best to avoid spaces.

The other thing to do, file sharing with win, is turn off fast start in win. The default is enabled. With it enabled you will find your ntfs partitions read-only to linux.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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AndyMH wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:04 pm
gapent wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:12 pm It's normal? Can I rename this specific partition that I use for save files for both (Mint and Win10)?
Yes, to rename a partition add a label to it, you can do this with disks or gparted. If you add a label to a partition, e.g. mylabel, it will appear as mylabel in the devices pane in the file manager.

Linux is case sensitive so Mylabel is not the same as mylabel and it is best to avoid spaces.

The other thing to do, file sharing with win, is turn off fast start in win. The default is enabled. With it enabled you will find your ntfs partitions read-only to linux.
Thanks.

You mean fastboot in BIOS? It's disable.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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No fast startup, or hibernation. It is a setting in Windows..
https://www.technewstoday.com/fast-star ... indows-11/
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RIH wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:08 pm No fast startup, or hibernation. It is a setting in Windows..
https://www.technewstoday.com/fast-star ... indows-11/
Yes, it is already disable.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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If I click on a partition, the symbol of unmount appears in front it.
What is the symbol of unmount? For me it is this triangle with a line under it disappearing:
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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mikeflan wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:42 am
If I click on a partition, the symbol of unmount appears in front it.
What is the symbol of unmount? For me it is this triangle with a line under it disappearing:
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unmounted.png
Yes, that symbol is to unmount. They only appear when you click on any partition.
Looks like linux see NTFS partitions as any external hd storage, like a pendrive, that you can mount and unmount.

In your picture you have label for each partition? In my linux Mint each partition appears just as NEW VOLUME and a number with many digits.
I clicked with the right button mouse and selected "add a marker or add label" I don't know if it is the correct english name because I use portugues as system language, here sppears as "adicionar marcador".

Then I could write a name, I write "mint" and this created like a shortcut above the others partitions with the name "mint" form my partition.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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gapent wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:18 pm In your picture you have label for each partition? In my linux Mint each partition appears just as NEW VOLUME and a number with many digits.
I clicked with the right button mouse and selected "add a marker or add label" I don't know if it is the correct english name because I use portugues as system language, here sppears as "adicionar marcador".
If you add a label to a partition it will mount using the label, e.g. if you add the label mylabel to a partition it will appear in the file manager under devices as mylabel and will mount at /media/you/mylabel. Without a label it will show in the file manager as xxGB volume and mount at, as an example /media/you/f9c5c7f3-7396-4086-bd09-a677a2079cd8. It is using the UUID as the mountpoint, not very user friendly.

You can add labels to partitions with disks or gparted.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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Linux is case sensitive so Mylabel is not the same as mylabel and it is best to avoid spaces.
I would say that it is MANDATORY that you avoid spaces. If you have a space in a directory name, someday it will come back to bite you. Been there, done that.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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In your picture you have label for each partition?
Yes, but all 3 of mine are also separate drives. Some drives have one big partition and that is all. Others have a small Unallocated Space or Microsoft Reserved partition and then the big partition.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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Reddog1 wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:44 pm I would say that it is MANDATORY that you avoid spaces.
Not necessarily. If the file name is My Label you simply type My\ Label or use quotation marks.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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But it is simpler to avoid spaces in the first place and remember linux is case sensitive, Mylabel is not the same as mylabel.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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Of course it is simpler to avoid spaces in the file name, but is not mandatory to avoid them.
Assume you get a bunch of documents (e. g. office) and they are linked between each other and let us also assume, that the file names have spaces. Removing them would break the function of the documents (at least the master file), so this would not be an option.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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I would definitely avoid spaces in a filesystem and/or partition label. I reckon spaces in filenames are OK -- we've stepped on all those landmines back in the late 90s and early 2000s.
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Re: May I use a NTFS partition to save some files?

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