Firefox upgrades or something is loosing my Dictionary words

[AZgl1800]

I haunt the same forums consistently.

I add words to the Dictionary on each forum, two things bug me badly

1) the same Word is treated as a "new word" when I visit a different forum.

2) when Firefox or other updates are done, those "added words" get lost.

Extremely frustrating on my M/C forum, which I am the Admin of for the past 29 years.
I use the same terms all the time, and those words keep getting lost.

[deepakdeshp]

What's MC forum? What software does it use?

[AZgl1800]

What's MC forum? What software does it use?

M/C to us folks means a motorcycle,
the one in particular is www.GoldwingFacts.com
and it uses Xenforo

The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo.
goldwingfacts.com is an independent Honda enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. Content on goldwingfacts.com is generated by its users. goldwingfacts.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company
VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada

[TheyLive]

I haunt the same forums consistently.

I add words to the Dictionary on each forum, two things bug me badly

What is Dictionary?

[AZgl1800]

I haunt the same forums consistently.

I add words to the Dictionary on each forum, two things bug me badly

What is Dictionary?

when you are a Text Editor, like on this forum, and you miss spell a word, the browser's internal Check Spelling feature will underline bad words.

my issue, is I enter a correct Word, and then click ADD TO Dictionary....
it should stay forever, but they don't

AND, it has to be done for every website....
the Spell Check should be a Once and forget it thing...
it is stupid to have to re-enter FASTER in 14 different websites.

"FASTER" is just a demo 'word' that entered once ought to be it, once and forever

[TheyLive]

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apt list --installed | grep spell

?

[TheyLive]

Try

1. Run FF
2. Add "new" words to dictionary
3. Open FF profile folder
4. Find persdict.dat file and make it read only
5. Restart FF

[AZgl1800]

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apt list --installed | grep spell

?

john@FX705GM:~$ apt list --installed | grep spell

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

aspell-en/jammy,jammy,now 2018.04.16-0-1 all [installed]
aspell/jammy,now 0.60.8-4build1 amd64 [installed]
gir1.2-gspell-1/jammy,now 1.9.1-4 amd64 [installed]
hunspell-de-at-frami/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-de-ch-frami/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-de-de-frami/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-en-au/jammy,jammy,now 1:2020.12.07-2 all [installed]
hunspell-en-ca/jammy,jammy,now 1:2020.12.07-2 all [installed]
hunspell-en-gb/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-en-us/jammy,jammy,now 1:2020.12.07-2 all [installed]
hunspell-en-za/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-es/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-fr-classical/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.0-1 all [installed]
hunspell-fr/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.0-1 all [installed]
hunspell-it/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-pt-br/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-pt-pt/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
hunspell-ru/jammy,jammy,now 1:7.2.0-2 all [installed]
libaspell15/jammy,now 0.60.8-4build1 amd64 [installed]
libgspell-1-2/jammy,now 1.9.1-4 amd64 [installed]
libgspell-1-common/jammy,jammy,now 1.9.1-4 all [installed]
libhunspell-1.7-0/jammy,now 1.7.0-4build1 amd64 [installed]
john@FX705GM:~$


I used CATFISH to find this, and nothing came up.
looked in .etc and not there either.

. Find persdict.dat file and make it read only

[TheyLive]

1) Of all the hunspell, I would leave only one en-us
When and under what circumstances did other languages appear on your computer?

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apt list --installed | grep spell

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

aspell-en/oldstable,oldstable,now 2018.04.16-0-1 all [installed]
aspell/oldstable,oldstable,now 0.60.7~20110707-6+deb10u1 amd64 [installed]
hunspell-en-us/oldstable,oldstable,now 1:2018.04.16-1 all [installed]
libaspell15/oldstable,oldstable,now 0.60.7~20110707-6+deb10u1 amd64 [installed]
libgspell-1-1/oldstable,now 1.6.1-2 amd64 [installed]
libgspell-1-common/oldstable,oldstable,now 1.6.1-2 all [installed]
libgtkspell0/oldstable,now 2.0.16-1.2 amd64 [installed]
libhfstospell10/oldstable,now 0.5.0-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libhunspell-1.7-0/oldstable,now 1.7.0-2 amd64 [installed]

2)

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cat ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/persdict.dat

[AZgl1800]

1) Of all the hunspell, I would leave only one en-us
When and under what circumstances did other languages appear on your computer?

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apt list --installed | grep spell

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

aspell-en/oldstable,oldstable,now 2018.04.16-0-1 all [installed]
aspell/oldstable,oldstable,now 0.60.7~20110707-6+deb10u1 amd64 [installed]
hunspell-en-us/oldstable,oldstable,now 1:2018.04.16-1 all [installed]
libaspell15/oldstable,oldstable,now 0.60.7~20110707-6+deb10u1 amd64 [installed]
libgspell-1-1/oldstable,now 1.6.1-2 amd64 [installed]
libgspell-1-common/oldstable,oldstable,now 1.6.1-2 all [installed]
libgtkspell0/oldstable,now 2.0.16-1.2 amd64 [installed]
libhfstospell10/oldstable,now 0.5.0-2 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libhunspell-1.7-0/oldstable,now 1.7.0-2 amd64 [installed]

2)

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cat ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/persdict.dat

Wow, never was able to see my "added words" before

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john@FX705GM:~$ cat ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/persdict.dat
Amana
VBox
ThinkPads
Enroute
Inseego
Covid
BSW
Theater
AutoSubscribed
dually
Tach
Atwoods
filename
airplane
Classen
Garmin
Toggs
Hotspot
Ruger
Delco
Dragger
Braxton
hotspots
inhouse
caliche
MiFi
Traveler
Farcebook
Leece
RDC
Distro
rasterised
Ogallala
extUSB
OKC
Losartan
Haulmark
MichelinDefender
Addon
BackInTime
Shutdown
ABQ
LuckyBackup
VerticalScope
Uninstall
Ryobi
Talala
AutoFill
AdBlock
Kubota
png
Americus
Aleck
ADMIN
SMS
Wx
OEM
USB-C
behavior
Mardonna's
Lumens
Dissolver
NTSF
TMHI
Stator
Dahl
hotspot
AGM
PTSD
screenshots
behoove
SSD
Cushman
Travelers
Cimmaron
Quadcopters
Center
Tekonsha
endeavor
Owasso
Patreon
Schwab
TouchScreen
Cntl-W
Glucometer
Moab
rallys
Cortez
Fuelio
Taos
crimper
McDonalds
Clem
setup
APTIK
FreeFileSync
McAlester
mumbo
raineth
Aldi's
Evernote
Broadcom
.odt
crapware
SysReq
Opry
abouts
Aluma
Rotators
WiFi
freeway
MyRadar
Gparted
Frogg
NAV
MechMan
OBDII
eBattery
carb
Caliche
Keira
Amaxinh
uninstalled
Nvidia
Verizon
Kenworth
SSDs
KOA
DCT
PMR
reimage
BIOS
Silverado
uncontrived
ASUS
MH
Salina
MSDOS
Dottering
LibreOffice
speedo
Bluetooth
AridZona
borescope
Dometic
CDMA
Pagosa
Apps
O'Reilly
Facebook
PSO
hoss
Una
meds
Gmail
DirecTV
Oologah
glitchy
PikePass
Penske
Choco
ForScan
Bartlesville
PCM
Sauer
crimpers
SnapOn
Hotspots
Gullwing
Avion
Tucumcari
Pritchett
AutoImmune
unconnect
MOSFET
Tech
Kiera
color
Harbor
XED
UltraSonic
Cntl-Alt-O
LastPass
totalled
DeGas
CCA
Kalispell
Aptik
Emoticons
Crutchfield
scammers
bux
DVM
AutoCorrect
Glucometers
O'Reilly's
PhotoBucket
uninstall
Reasors
glucometer
Lenovo
cosmoline
Bluffton
CCW
SetPower
Fiber
NEMO
PPA
Meritore
Bilstein
Rotator
Starlink
ReliON
ThinkPad
OkieLand
Anker
honored
NASR
CostCo
Favorite
TPSI
Clem's
Armoire
Dewalt
Traxxion
Arkadian
Firefox
bootup
laborers
Vortec
Mardonna
Akbash
AlwaySync
EcoTank
LTX
inxi
Ramcharger
kybd
Maricopa
GoldwingFacts
milliAmps
arse
AutoZone
Foxclone
eReader
Electronic's
Tnx
unfavorable
Sams
Piaggio
Google
ARB
Color
MacroDroid
creeped
Blackhawk
Timeshift
LM
Varoom
Borger
nvidia
Vankyo
Liebsch
Orangeville
SnapSeed
Kobalt
wallah
favorite
Desklet
fabbing
suspicioned
LifeTime
NaySayers
stator
AMEX
Screenshot
zerks
Lexmark
THHN
Stinnett
HVAC
eBikes
Autolite
lineworkers
Airstream
Pitts
MaryAnne's
MaxLife
Amsoil
rebuilders
Netflix
Cushcraft
Viet
PSO’s
Throughs
TurboTax
VirtualBox
VZW
docx
Coffeeville
Pyrenees
Kia
Dawsonville
frickin
PeterBilt
campground
LOKITHOR
forecasted
Ventoy
Claremore
PowerStroke
Scotty's
tranny
mish
Crypto
PlayStore
Rotella
neighbor
Collinsville
reroofed
Seligman
Redshift
Goldwing
Durango
YouTube
Fdroid
Seagate
Camarata
EverChill
mA
PWM
Snapseed
Dominator
TriPacer
Cummins
Rescuezilla
Paperwhite
delimma
whereareyou
PJ
Healy
Fdroid
Systane
Garmin
hotspots
MiFi
EGT
ONAN
Moem
Accelera
Kubota
IPR
Stator
HD
Owasso
kybd
Glucometer
Fuelio
crimper
Racor
ELC
Rejunenator
MechMan
Pintle
Oologah
Americus
Tagalong
Leece
ICP
Rotella
Liftgate
Firecreek
PCM
knicking
Kiera
Husqvarna's
Aptik
Crutchfield
TrueTrac
furtherest
Intercooler
LTX
phenolic
Piaggio
Auzzie
Timeshift
Collinsville
Traxion
Mercon
trailered
hotspot
dually
NASR
walkie
ByPass
Dawsonville
Anydesk
Motorcraft
PowerStroke
stator
SMG
PJ
ICS
Penski
NASSIR
john@FX705GM:~$ 

the big issue I have about them, is that they are never SUGGESTED as a proper spelling, that has always irked me.

1) Of all the hunspell, I would leave only one en-us
When and under what circumstances did other languages appear on your computer?

I have no clue as to when all the other versions of hunspell showed up.
If I were to guess, it is a Hold Over from doing an Upgrade from 20.3 to 21 beta, I did not do a Fresh Install, just the upgrade.

[AZgl1800]

never mind, figured it out, how to remove other pkgs

[TheyLive]

Wow, never was able to see my "added words" before
...
the big issue I have about them, is that they are never SUGGESTED as a proper spelling, that has always irked me.
...
I have not clue as to when all the other versions of hunspell showed up.
If I were to guess, it is a Hold Over from doing an Upgrade from 20.3 to 21 beta, I did not do a Fresh Install, just the upgrade.

1) Hm, seems you can not see Hidden Files (they have dot before name)
.mozilla - example hidden folder
Try to
>>> Go to your Home folder
>>> Mouse Right Click
>>> Check "Show Hidden Files"

2) This because FF every time do not know what language to use for spelling.
You have five english languages. What FF must think about it?
You have many other langauges. Russian, German, Italian, French... I do not think about updates, some of your programs installed them.
I have only one english lang and only one version of it = En-Us
Try to
>>> Go to Synaptic
>>> Search for hunspell dictionary
>>> Live only one En-Us version

[AZgl1800]

Thank you for taking so much time, and adding a lot of Detail for me.
I will be Archiving this entire thread in my Notebook....

80 summers have passed for me, and 15 years ago, a Semi truck merged my motorcycle and me into a brick wall..... that destroyed my Short Term Memory, and keeps me from remembering things others never forget....

if I don't write it down, it is lost within 15 minutes.

the list is much shorter now, do I need the other spell application, aspell/ ?

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john@FX705GM:~$ apt list --installed | grep spell

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

aspell-en/jammy,jammy,now 2018.04.16-0-1 all [installed]
aspell/jammy,now 0.60.8-4build1 amd64 [installed]
gir1.2-gspell-1/jammy,now 1.9.1-4 amd64 [installed]
hunspell-en-us/jammy,jammy,now 1:2020.12.07-2 all [installed]
libaspell15/jammy,now 0.60.8-4build1 amd64 [installed]
libgspell-1-2/jammy,now 1.9.1-4 amd64 [installed]
libgspell-1-common/jammy,jammy,now 1.9.1-4 all [installed]
libhunspell-1.7-0/jammy,now 1.7.0-4build1 amd64 [installed]
john@FX705GM:~$ 

[TheyLive]

... do I need the other spell application, aspell/ ?

I do not know what is it for.
Firefox uses Hunspell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunspell

p.s. Does your dictionary work now?

[AZgl1800]

... do I need the other spell application, aspell/ ?

I do not know what is it for.
Firefox uses Hunspell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunspell

p.s. Does your dictionary work now?

to be honest, I don't know yet,
I have only looked at this forum a couple of times.
I am visiting with Family out of state, and that does not allow me to muck around with my laptop.

test:
worrd ( shows underline so it is incorrect )
Baad ( shows underline so it is incorrect )

at the moment, I can't think of a "real word" that I need to enter and then check to see if it shows as a correction...

ah, yes, GoldwingFacts ( which is the name of my M/C forum, I will enter that )
now miss-spell it goldwingfacts ( it is showing miss-spelled )

now I will see if it offers the correct spelling, nope, just offers to ADD it to the Dictionary.

that is my Big Irk with Hunspell, it does NOT use my Added Words as a solution to a miss-spelled word

[TheyLive]

test:
worrd ( shows underline so it is incorrect )
Baad ( shows underline so it is incorrect )

at the moment, I can't think of a "real word" that I need to enter and then check to see if it shows as a correction...

ah, yes, GoldwingFacts ( which is the name of my M/C forum, I will enter that )
now miss-spell it goldwingfacts ( it is showing miss-spelled )

now I will see if it offers the correct spelling, nope, just offers to ADD it to the Dictionary.

that is my Big Irk with Hunspell, it does NOT use my Added Words as a solution to a miss-spelled word

I copied your words to my dictionary persdict.dat. And all works.

There are not worrd and Baad in your dictionary. They underlined.

What about GoldwingFacts. It works!
GoldwingFacts - Ok because it is in Dictionary
goldwingfacts - underlined miss-spelled because it is not in Dictionary

GoldwingFacts is not goldwingfacts

p.s.
English - Ok, because it is in system dictionary
english - underlined, does not in system dictionary

Linux spelling is case sensitive by default!
You have to add all variation off your words to your dictionary.
Maybe there is a way to set case independence? I do not know.

[AZgl1800]

I agree with the above,

the major Irk that I have, is that not one of my ADDED words is ever used as a Possible Correction to a miss-spelled word.

that sloppy old girl, MS Word will do that for me...

PS: I am not looking for Case Independence, that would defeat the purpose of Spell Check.
what I want, is for it to recognize a lowercase word and suggest the correct Upper/Lower case solution.

[TheyLive]

Hm, I tried to copy your words to system hunspell dictionaries /usr/share/hunspell/en_US.dic
And test suggestions for them, for example Amana

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sudo apt install hunspell

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echo "Amana" | hunspell
Hunspell 1.7.0
*

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echo "amana" | hunspell
Hunspell 1.7.0
& amana 5 0: Amana, manana, manna, panama, man

For amana suggestion is Amana.
It correct, but this is only in command line in system.
Firefox does not see them.
This means that FF uses a built-in copy of hunspell, not the system one.
I can not filnd FF built-in english dictionary to try to copy word in it.

[TheyLive]

I find

1. Install additional dictionary, for example
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... ictionary/

2. Find it in extension folder in profile
/home/[YOUR NAME]/.mozilla/firefox/[PROFILE]/extensions/en-US-mozilla@dictionaries.addons.mozilla.org.xpi

3. Open it and open dictionary en-US.dic

4. Copy your words in it and save.

5. Restart FF

All works!

Make it read only or switch off updates for this addon

[AZgl1800]

AH,
you are one Deeply Serious Dude....

I will go put my words in the Mozzila dictionary in a bit, and love it if they show up like I want them too.

if they do, I will create a shortcut to the Dictionary, so that it is easier to find and edit.