[SOLVED] Desktop Deadspots

Please post suggestions for improvement of Cinnamon on:
https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon
Forum rules
Before you post read how to get help. Topics in this forum are automatically closed 6 months after creation.
Locked
User avatar
TitaniumJones
Level 1
Level 1
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Location: Cambridge England

[SOLVED] Desktop Deadspots

Post by TitaniumJones »

Hi, this is really hard to explain, but sometimes I find that there are dead spots on the desktop. By deadspots I mean areas where I can not click on an object.
I have found I can drag a box over the affected area from a 'live' part of the desktop. That will select it, but I still can not drag that item out of the deadspot by clicking the selected object. The only way to drag an item out of the deadspot is to select multiple items (inside and outside the deadspot) and then drag them using an object in the live part until the object I want is in a 'live' part of the desktop.

Has anyone else experienced this or know what is causing it?
Last edited by LockBot on Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:00 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: Topic automatically closed 6 months after creation. New replies are no longer allowed.
Curious Engineer
Alienware x17 - 11Gen i7 RTX3070
--->Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon - Kernel 5.19-42
--->Windows 11
mikeflan
Level 16
Level 16
Posts: 6974
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:28 am
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by mikeflan »

Has anyone else experienced this or know what is causing it?
Not me. Are the dead spots always along the edge of the monitor? Always on the bottom?
motoryzen
Level 10
Level 10
Posts: 3443
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:25 am

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by motoryzen »

TitaniumJones

try disabling " auto arrange"

If you already have icons showing on your desktop..right click any empty area, select customize. Auto arrange toggle slider button is under layout..can't miss it.

If this isn't applicable enough..you may have to mess with grid spacing selection/settings via the very bottom of that same settings window and/or the right hand aka vertical selections part of the left click hold drag up and down or left and right little dots
Mint 21.2 Cinnamon 5.8.4
asrock x570 taichi ...bios p5.00
ryzen 5900x
128GB Kingston Fury @ 3600mhz
Corsair mp600 pro xt NVME ssd 4TB
three 4TB ssds
dual 1TB ssds
Two 16TB Toshiba hdd's
24GB amd 7900xtx vid card
Viewsonic Elite UHD 32" 144hz monitor
User avatar
TitaniumJones
Level 1
Level 1
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Location: Cambridge England

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by TitaniumJones »

mikeflan wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 9:03 pm
Has anyone else experienced this or know what is causing it?
Not me. Are the dead spots always along the edge of the monitor? Always on the bottom?
Deadspots are towards the top left of the screen as in the attachment.
motoryzen wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 11:57 pm TitaniumJones

try disabling " auto arrange"

If you already have icons showing on your desktop..right click any empty area, select customize. Auto arrange toggle slider button is under layout..can't miss it.

If this isn't applicable enough..you may have to mess with grid spacing selection/settings via the very bottom of that same settings window and/or the right hand aka vertical selections part of the left click hold drag up and down or left and right little dots
I tried both of your suggestions, unfortunately the deadspots persist!

Image
Image showing approximate location of the deadspots on the desktop. These persist on all desktops 1,2,3 & 4
Curious Engineer
Alienware x17 - 11Gen i7 RTX3070
--->Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon - Kernel 5.19-42
--->Windows 11
mikeflan
Level 16
Level 16
Posts: 6974
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:28 am
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by mikeflan »

The only way to drag an item out of the deadspot is to select multiple items (inside and outside the deadspot) and then drag them using an object in the live part until the object I want is in a 'live' part of the desktop.
Ha, that is an odd one. You have a unique problem and I have no solution to that.
Just for grins give us your screen size and screen resolution. Mine is a 34" monitor - 2560 X 1080 (21:9)
When I start Display it blacks out the screen for 3-4 seconds and then opens up.
User avatar
TitaniumJones
Level 1
Level 1
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Location: Cambridge England

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by TitaniumJones »

mikeflan wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:14 pm Ha, that is an odd one. You have a unique problem and I have no solution to that.
Just for grins give us your screen size and screen resolution. Mine is a 34" monitor - 2560 X 1080 (21:9)
When I start Display it blacks out the screen for 3-4 seconds and then opens up.
That's also odd.
I'm using Mint on a 17" laptop screen the display is 1920 x 1080 @ 60.05 Hz. This is also odd because I thought it was 320Hz but anyway, that's what mint says.

Image

This is what Windows 11 offers me in terms of refresh rate.
Curious Engineer
Alienware x17 - 11Gen i7 RTX3070
--->Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon - Kernel 5.19-42
--->Windows 11
User avatar
SMG
Level 25
Level 25
Posts: 31333
Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:15 pm
Location: USA

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by SMG »

TitaniumJones wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:16 amI'm using Mint on a 17" laptop screen the display is 1920 x 1080 @ 60.05 Hz. This is also odd because I thought it was 320Hz but anyway, that's what mint says.
Please open the System Reports app and click the System Information tab on the left. Your computer's information should come up in the right pane. Then click the Copy button in the lower right and paste the results into a reply window here so we can see how Linux Mint views your hardware.
Image
A woman typing on a laptop with LM20.3 Cinnamon.
User avatar
all41
Level 19
Level 19
Posts: 9498
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:12 am
Location: Computer, Car, Cage

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by all41 »

Hi @TitaniumJones

Do you have conky on that system?
Did you ever?
just saying because I once had a mis-configured conky that was invisible while running but still
padded the area around it.
Everything in life was difficult before it became easy.
User avatar
TitaniumJones
Level 1
Level 1
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Location: Cambridge England

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by TitaniumJones »

SMG wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:16 pm
TitaniumJones wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:16 amI'm using Mint on a 17" laptop screen the display is 1920 x 1080 @ 60.05 Hz. This is also odd because I thought it was 320Hz but anyway, that's what mint says.
Please open the System Reports app and click the System Information tab on the left. Your computer's information should come up in the right pane. Then click the Copy button in the lower right and paste the results into a reply window here so we can see how Linux Mint views your hardware.

Code: Select all

System:
  Kernel: 5.19.0-43-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A Desktop: Cinnamon 5.6.8 tk: GTK 3.24.33
    wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 21.1 Vera base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Alienware product: Alienware x17 R1 v: 1.17.0 serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Alienware model: Alienware x17 R1 v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Alienware
    v: 1.17.0 date: 02/08/2023
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 23.9 Wh (38.5%) condition: 62.0/87.0 Wh (71.3%) volts: 12.2 min: 11.4
    model: COMPAL PABAS0241231 serial: <filter> status: Charging
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech MX Ergo Multi-Device Trackball serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: Discharging
CPU:
  Info: 8-core model: 11th Gen Intel Core i7-11800H bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Tiger Lake rev: 1
    cache: L1: 640 KiB L2: 10 MiB L3: 24 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1818 high: 2300 min/max: 800/4600 cores: 1: 1476 2: 2300 3: 1614 4: 1665
    5: 2300 6: 1512 7: 2300 8: 1802 9: 1599 10: 1156 11: 1728 12: 1021 13: 2300 14: 2120 15: 1897
    16: 2300 bogomips: 73728
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel TigerLake-H GT1 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel ports:
    active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, DP-4, DP-5, HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 0000:00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:9a60
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA104M [GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile / Max-Q] vendor: Dell driver: nvidia
    v: 530.41.03 ports: active: none empty: DP-6, DP-7, HDMI-A-2, eDP-2 bus-ID: 0000:01:00.0
    chip-ID: 10de:24dd
  Device-3: Microdia Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 3-7:3
    chip-ID: 0c45:672c
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia
    unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 102
  Monitor-1: eDP-1-1 mapped: eDP-1 model: AU Optronics res: 1920x1080 dpi: 128
    diag: 438mm (17.3")
  OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 530.41.03
    direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Tiger Lake-H HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
    bus-ID: 0000:00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:43c8
  Device-2: NVIDIA GA104 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 0000:01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:228b
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.19.0-43-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek Killer E3000 2.5GbE vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000
    bus-ID: 0000:3b:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:3000
  IF: enp59s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz vendor: Rivet Networks driver: iwlwifi
    v: kernel bus-ID: 0000:3c:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725
  IF: wlp60s0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: docker0 state: down mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-2: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-14:5 chip-ID: 8087:0032
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter>
RAID:
  Hardware-1: Intel Volume Management Device NVMe RAID Controller driver: vmd v: 0.6
    bus-ID: 0000:00:0e.0 chip-ID: 8086:9a0b
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 2.75 TiB used: 935.94 GiB (33.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Crucial model: CT2000P2SSD8 size: 1.82 TiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s
    lanes: 4 serial: <filter> temp: 44.9 C
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Western Digital model: PC SN730 NVMe WDC 1024GB size: 953.87 GiB
    speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> temp: 48.9 C
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 423.24 GiB used: 62.71 GiB (14.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p8
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 186 MiB used: 125.9 MiB (67.7%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme1n1p1
  ID-3: /home size: 1.43 TiB used: 873.11 GiB (59.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 30.52 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p4
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
  Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 16 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
  Device-1: 3-4:2 info: Alienware LED controller type: HID driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 2.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 187c:0550
  Device-2: 3-7:3 info: Microdia Integrated_Webcam_HD type: Video driver: uvcvideo rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 0c45:672c
  Device-3: 3-9:4 info: Darfon Keyboard type: Keyboard driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 0d62:cabc
  Device-4: 3-14:5 info: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: Bluetooth driver: btusb rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 8087:0032
  Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 8 rev: 3.1 speed: 20 Gb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
  Device-1: 4-4:2 info: Realtek USB3.0-CRW type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s chip-ID: 0bda:0328
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 49 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 3757 apt: 3718 flatpak: 29 snap: 10
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/100-ubnt-unifi.list
    1: deb https: //www.ui.com/downloads/unifi/debian stable ubiquiti
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64] https: //brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cappelikan-ppa-jammy.list
    1: deb http: //ppa.launchpad.net/cappelikan/ppa/ubuntu jammy main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda-ubuntu2204-12-0-local.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/cuda-852BBB4F-keyring.gpg] file: ///var/cuda-repo-ubuntu2204-12-0-local /
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gerardpuig-ppa-jammy.list
    1: deb http: //ppa.launchpad.net/gerardpuig/ppa/ubuntu jammy main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/microsoft-edge.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //packages.microsoft.com/repos/edge/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mongodb-org-6.0.list
    1: deb [ arch=amd64,arm64 ] https: //repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu focal/mongodb-org/6.0 multiverse
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nordvpn.list
    1: deb https: //repo.nordvpn.com//deb/nordvpn/debian stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
    1: deb http: //packages.linuxmint.com vera main upstream import backport
    2: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy main restricted universe multiverse
    3: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
    4: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
    5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-security main restricted universe multiverse
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qbittorrent-team-qbittorrent-stable-jammy.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/qbittorrent-team-qbittorrent-stable-jammy.gpg] https: //ppa.launchpadcontent.net/qbittorrent-team/qbittorrent-stable/ubuntu jammy main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //repo.skype.com/deb stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list
    1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/teamviewer-keyring.gpg] https: //linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq-jammy.sources
    1: deb [arch=amd64 i386] https: //dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu jammy main
Info:
  Processes: 475 Uptime: 3h 58m Memory: 31.02 GiB used: 6.18 GiB (19.9%) Init: systemd v: 249
  runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 11.3.0 alt: 11/12/9 Client: Unknown python3.10 client inxi: 3.3.13
Curious Engineer
Alienware x17 - 11Gen i7 RTX3070
--->Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon - Kernel 5.19-42
--->Windows 11
User avatar
TitaniumJones
Level 1
Level 1
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Location: Cambridge England

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by TitaniumJones »

all41 wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:30 pm Hi @TitaniumJones

Do you have conky on that system?
Did you ever?
just saying because I once had a mis-configured conky that was invisible while running but still
padded the area around it.
I don't know what a Conky is, but I guess it's gonna be something like this or a sticky note or something like this which is hiding the screen. Trouible is.... I cant find it.
Curious Engineer
Alienware x17 - 11Gen i7 RTX3070
--->Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon - Kernel 5.19-42
--->Windows 11
User avatar
SMG
Level 25
Level 25
Posts: 31333
Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:15 pm
Location: USA

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by SMG »

TitaniumJones wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:26 amI don't know what a Conky is
It does not come with Linux Mint. It is a system monitor app you have to install.

However, if you do not have these dead spots on Windows, then maybe there is something set to "invisible" on your desktop. Those seem like rather odd, specific locations. :?

What mode are you currently running with regards to graphics, On-demand or Nvidia-Performance? (I have not heard the mode would make a difference, but that's the only idea I have based on your computer's output.

To find out the possible resolutions being seen by the operating system, you can run xrandr.
Image
A woman typing on a laptop with LM20.3 Cinnamon.
User avatar
TitaniumJones
Level 1
Level 1
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Location: Cambridge England

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by TitaniumJones »

Hello boys and girls
Here is an update! I have fixed the dead spots.

I wasn't conky!
I don't have it on Windows!
I normally operate in "On demand" mode!

It was a applet called Sticky Notes by Colinss!!!

It was the suggestion of it being something over my desktop. You can see the dock icon in the tray between the Bitwarden icon and the Bose headphones icon.
Thank you all for your suggestions and help.
Curious Engineer
Alienware x17 - 11Gen i7 RTX3070
--->Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon - Kernel 5.19-42
--->Windows 11
User avatar
SMG
Level 25
Level 25
Posts: 31333
Joined: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:15 pm
Location: USA

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by SMG »

TitaniumJones wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:07 pmIt was a applet called Sticky Notes by Colinss!!!
That comes with Linux Mint and I just found this bug report stopped showing on desktop(screen) after updating to NVIDIA 530 #103 .

You are using Nvidia 530. I suggest you add your experience on that bug and link to this topic to help with the investigation. Apparently, when the note is created, it is not visible on the desktop for some reason, but it is there.
Image
A woman typing on a laptop with LM20.3 Cinnamon.
User avatar
TitaniumJones
Level 1
Level 1
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:07 pm
Location: Cambridge England

Re: Desktop Deadspots

Post by TitaniumJones »

SMG wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:48 pm
TitaniumJones wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:07 pmIt was a applet called Sticky Notes by Colinss!!!
That comes with Linux Mint and I just found this bug report stopped showing on desktop(screen) after updating to NVIDIA 530 #103 .

You are using Nvidia 530. I suggest you add your experience on that bug and link to this topic to help with the investigation. Apparently, when the note is created, it is not visible on the desktop for some reason, but it is there.
Just checked, yes 530. Thanks for your help.
Curious Engineer
Alienware x17 - 11Gen i7 RTX3070
--->Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon - Kernel 5.19-42
--->Windows 11
Locked

Return to “Cinnamon”