Monthly News – March 2024

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How will it be with the installation of the 22 in legacy boot mode? With 21 it could not be done. I mean it was only possible to update from previous version. I ask because for example HP hardware and DriveLock with UEFI will not turn on after install. for example with Parrot don't have that problem. And also a question. Does really the default time to try to read a non-readable disk have to be so long by default? In other distributions it is 15 -20 seconds.
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pawelnrg wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:36 am How will it be with the installation of the 22 in legacy boot mode? With 21 it could not be done.
Yes it could, it just did it a different way.
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Good news: Mint 22 will follow the kernel versions of Ubuntu LTS point releases. Including point releases with HWE kernels, so that the Edge ISO will become unnecessary (and will therefore be discontinued). :)
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I love that only English and the selected default language are the only ones that will be installed in Mint 22. Will that also apply to LibreOffice? Manually removing all those unneeded language packs has been a PITA.
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Pjotr wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:23 pm Good news: Mint 22 will follow the kernel versions of Ubuntu LTS point releases. Including point releases with HWE kernels, so that the Edge ISO will become unnecessary (and will therefore be discontinued). :)
Good news to most people. But it is unclear if a user can rollback to the old LTS kernel or not. The biggest use case of keeping a computer at the old LTS kernel is for those running old Nvidia display cards. Not me but I think this is a valid concern.
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billyswong wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:16 pm
Pjotr wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:23 pm Good news: Mint 22 will follow the kernel versions of Ubuntu LTS point releases. Including point releases with HWE kernels, so that the Edge ISO will become unnecessary (and will therefore be discontinued). :)
Good news to most people. But it is unclear if a user can rollback to the old LTS kernel or not. The biggest use case of keeping a computer at the old LTS kernel is for those running old Nvidia display cards. Not me but I think this is a valid concern.
I think you need not worry.... It's more of a return to past practice.

This past practice involved that whenever you did an in-place upgrade to a newer Mint within the same series, you didn't get the kernel that belonged to that newer Mint (if that newer Mint did have a default kernel of a newer series).

Such an in-place upgrade, provided you used mintupdate (Update Manager) for that, would therefore never force a kernel from a newer series on you. This was a smart built-in protection. I assume that this'll be implemented again as well.
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Good news (Pipewire, HWE, Thunderbird).
However, one thing is not clear to me.
Are the so-called HWE kernels updated (especially for security reasons) or do you have to change the kernel to a newer one after a few months?
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AndreaB wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:28 pm Good news (Pipewire, HWE, Thunderbird).
However, one thing is not clear to me.
Are the so-called HWE kernels updated (especially for security reasons) or do you have to change the kernel to a newer one after a few months?
If it is done like Ubuntu they will update automatically when the dependencies of linux-generic-hwe-24.04 are changed to the newer kernel. The first change might take place in January 2025
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JeremyB wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:47 pm If it is done like Ubuntu they will update automatically when the dependencies of linux-generic-hwe-24.04 are changed to the newer kernel. The first change might take place in January 2025
I hope these frequent changes in the kernel do not cause compatibility problems.
In this progression, however, I imagine that every few months we will encounter an LTS kernel. Will it still be passed at that point?
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Thanks for the updates!
Looking forward to the finished product.
I'm happy to see that Mint will package Thunuderbird and not go with Ubuntu's snaps. Wondering though what Mint will do in the future as ubuntu goes more and more to snap packaging?
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kc1di wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:49 am Wondering though what Mint will do in the future as ubuntu goes more and more to snap packaging?
Well, there's always LMDE.... The instantly available spare option. :)
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Pjotr wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:51 am
kc1di wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:49 am Wondering though what Mint will do in the future as ubuntu goes more and more to snap packaging?
Well, there's always LMDE.... The instantly available spare option. :)
Yep and have used it :) Thanks for the reminder. Snowing hard here today 12-16 inches 30.5 cm plus. Hopefully the last one of the season.
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kc1di wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:01 am Snowing hard here today 12-16 inches 30.5 cm plus. Hopefully the last one of the season.
Spring is finally getting into swing over here... Looking forward to a glorious sunny 25 degrees Celsius (77 degrees Fahrenheit) on Saturday. :mrgreen:
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Not here, we have low pressure system after low pressure system rolling across the Atlantic bringing rain and more rain. Seems to have been like this for months. The only difference being that the rain is slightly warmer now.
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AndyMH wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:23 am The only difference being that the rain is slightly warmer now.
Well, at least that's in conformity with the way us Dutchies view the weather situation in Britain: cold rain in winter, and warm rain in summer. :lol:
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Pjotr wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:14 am
kc1di wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:01 am Snowing hard here today 12-16 inches 30.5 cm plus. Hopefully the last one of the season.
Spring is finally getting into swing over here... Looking forward to a glorious sunny 25 degrees Celsius (77 degrees Fahrenheit) on Saturday. :mrgreen:
We had quite a storm ended up with 18 inches of heavy wet snow and lost power for 62 hours power and internet just came back about 1 hour ago.
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kc1di wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:16 pm We had quite a storm ended up with 18 inches of heavy wet snow and lost power for 62 hours power and internet just came back about 1 hour ago.
Tough.... :shock:

After the indeed glorious Saturday over here, we are having a slightly less nice Sunday. But a sharp drop in temperature has been predicted for the coming days.

And the bloody spoil-sport meteorologists even predict an influx of ice-cold air from the North Pole in little over a week. Even snow will be possible again.

That's early spring for you.... As we say in Dutch: "Aprilletje zoet, heeft nog wel eens een witte hoed" (April sweet, sometimes has a white hat). :mrgreen:
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Happy Spring :)
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Pjotr wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:30 am As we say in Dutch: "Aprilletje zoet, heeft nog wel eens een witte hoed" (April sweet, sometimes has a white hat). :mrgreen:
And our saying "March winds and April showers", except we now seem to have them both all the time.
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