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Interesting "issue" with updates <Solved>

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I have two computers with me, one, an HP Elite 2 Tablet, the Other A Toshiba Satellite P70A, so quite different specs. Given that the Toshiba is the more powerful beast, I'd expect that it would be quicker. I've just run Update on both machines and, given that both sets of updates seemed identical I did a comparison of the two by pressing enter at the password prompt on both machines concurrently. I'll attach the specs of both machines below. The tablet finished the update whilst the laptop was still downloading the flatpak update. Both are running the same software and both oare using the same wifi network to achieve their goals. It's not really a problem, just a curiosity as I've noticed that the tablet does appear to outperfom the lappy on other occasions.
LAPTOP Spec

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System:
  Kernel: 5.15.0-102-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.4.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 5.8.4
    tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite P70-A v: PSPLPA-01C002
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Type2 - Board Vendor Name1 model: Type2 - Board Product Name1 v: Type2 - Board Version
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.00 date: 05/02/2013
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 46.5 Wh (100.0%) condition: 46.5/56.2 Wh (82.7%) volts: 12.5 min: 10.8
    model: SANYO PA5024U-1BRS serial: N/A status: Full
CPU:
  Info: quad core model: Intel Core i7-4700MQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Haswell rev: 3 cache:
    L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2380 high: 2538 min/max: 800/3400 cores: 1: 2327 2: 2135 3: 2402 4: 2395
    5: 2538 6: 2417 7: 2395 8: 2436 bogomips: 38312
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Toshiba driver: i915
    v: kernel ports: active: HDMI-A-1,eDP-1 empty: VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0416
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK107M [GeForce GT 745M] vendor: Toshiba driver: nvidia v: 470.239.06 pcie:
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0fe3
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia
    unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 128 diag: 437mm (17.2")
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 23.2.1-1ubuntu3.1~22.04.2
    direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio vendor: Toshiba
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0c0c
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Toshiba
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8c20
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-102-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On
    driver: ath9k v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0036
  IF: wlp7s0 state: up mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Toshiba driver: alx v: kernel pcie:
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 3000 bus-ID: 0d:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1091
  IF: enp13s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Toshiba type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 3-7:4 chip-ID: 0930:0220
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.1 sub-v: 1
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.38 TiB used: 409.57 GiB (29.1%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: HTS725050A7E630 size: 465.76 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s
    serial: <filter>
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Toshiba model: MK5075GSX size: 465.76 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s
    serial: <filter>
  ID-3: /dev/sdc model: GM512 size: 476.94 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 467.89 GiB used: 49.7 GiB (10.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdc2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdc1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 86.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2466 apt: 2455 flatpak: 11
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
    1: deb http: //mirror.internode.on.net/pub/linuxmint-packages victoria main upstream import backport
    2: deb http: //mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive jammy main restricted universe multiverse
    3: deb http: //mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive jammy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
    4: deb http: //mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive jammy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
    5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-security main restricted universe multiverse
Info:
  Processes: 296 Uptime: 14h 58m Memory: 15.37 GiB used: 2.45 GiB (15.9%) Init: systemd v: 249
  runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 11.4.0 alt: 11/12 Client: Unknown python3.10 client inxi: 3.3.13
TABLET SPEC

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System:
  Kernel: 5.15.0-102-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.4.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 5.8.4
    tk: GTK 3.24.33 wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Elite x2 1012 G1 v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
    Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 80FC v: KBC Version 15.6F serial: <superuser required> UEFI: HP
    v: N85 Ver. 01.22 date: 06/08/2017
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 39.6 Wh (99.0%) condition: 40.0/40.0 Wh (100.0%) volts: 8.6 min: 7.7
    model: Hewlett-Packard Primary serial: <filter> status: N/A
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Core m5-6Y57 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake rev: 3 cache:
    L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 500 min/max: 400/2800 cores: 1: 500 2: 500 3: 500 4: 500 bogomips: 11999
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 515 vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel ports:
    active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:191e
  Device-2: Cheng Uei Precision Industry (Foxlink) HP Full HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
    bus-ID: 1-3:2 chip-ID: 05c8:0421
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
    gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1280 s-dpi: 96
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: LG res: 1920x1280 dpi: 193 diag: 304mm (12")
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 515 (SKL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 23.2.1-1ubuntu3.1~22.04.2
    direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Imaging Unit
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: ipu3-imgu bus-ID: 00:05.0 chip-ID: 8086:1919
  Device-2: Intel CSI-2 Host vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: ipu3-cio2 bus-ID: 00:14.3
    chip-ID: 8086:9d32
  Device-3: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-102-generic running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
    bus-ID: 3b:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:24f3
  IF: wlp59s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-9:5
    chip-ID: 8087:0a2b
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: 100
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 333.63 GiB (71.6%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Crucial model: CT500P3SSD8 size: 465.76 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s
    lanes: 4 serial: <filter> temp: 35.9 C
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 456.89 GiB used: 333.62 GiB (73.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 39.0 C pch: 38.5 C mobo: 0.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2290 apt: 2280 flatpak: 10
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
    1: deb https: //mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linuxmint-packages victoria main upstream import backport
    2: deb http: //mirror.fsmg.org.nz/ubuntu jammy main restricted universe multiverse
    3: deb http: //mirror.fsmg.org.nz/ubuntu jammy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
    4: deb http: //mirror.fsmg.org.nz/ubuntu jammy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
    5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-security main restricted universe multiverse
Info:
  Processes: 230 Uptime: 3d 3h 18m Memory: 7.64 GiB used: 1.73 GiB (22.7%) Init: systemd v: 249
  runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 11.4.0 alt: 11/12 Client: Cinnamon v: 5.8.4 inxi: 3.3.13
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Re: Interesting "issue" with updates

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lsemmens wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:54 pm Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.38 TiB used: 409.57 GiB (29.1%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: HTS725050A7E630 size: 465.76 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s
serial: <filter>
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Toshiba model: MK5075GSX size: 465.76 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s
serial: <filter>
ID-3: /dev/sdc model: GM512 size: 476.94 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 467.89 GiB used: 49.7 GiB (10.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdc2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdc1
What is that GM512 disk with LM 21.2 installation in Toshiba? Is it a spinning disk? The HP machine has an nvme SSD. Nvme SSDs are much faster than spinning disks.
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All drives are SSDs the OS resides on an M2 drive in both systems.
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lsemmens wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:10 am All drives are SSDs the OS resides on an M2 drive in both systems.
This is your tablet. Its drive is an NVMe.

Drives:
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Crucial model: CT500P3SSD8 size: 465.76 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s
lanes: 4 serial: <filter> temp: 35.9 C
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 456.89 GiB used: 333.62 GiB (73.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1

This is your laptop. Its drive is not an NVMe. Its speed is 1/5 of the tablet's listed speed. Therefore I would expect it to be much slower.

Drives:
ID-3: /dev/sdc model: GM512 size: 476.94 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 467.89 GiB used: 49.7 GiB (10.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdc2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdc1
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Re: Interesting "issue" with updates

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lsemmens wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:54 pm The tablet finished the update whilst the laptop was still downloading the flatpak update.
If both machines have LM on SSDs​, the disk is probably not the main reason for a slower update on Toshiba. The main reason for slower updates on Toshiba could be the lower download speed of updates from the internet. Toshiba has only n class wireless card while HP has ac class wireless card.
lsemmens wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:54 pm Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite P70-A v: PSPLPA-01C002
Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On
lsemmens wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:54 pm Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Elite x2 1012 G1 v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
Device-1: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1

EDIT: run terminal command iwconfig on both machines and compare the Bit Rate section of wlans.
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Of course! The Toshiba is only an m2 drive whilst the HP is NVME.

The difference in wifi might also be an issue. As I commented above, it was purely a point of interest. None of my apps are "mission critical" in that if I wait a second or two, it's not going to affect me in the slightest.
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Yep! Iwconfig shows a huge difference, the HP runs at 5.18GHz whilst the Toshiba only runs 2.412GHz

Even signal level is double on the HP. :D
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lsemmens wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:48 am Iwconfig shows a huge difference, the HP runs at 5.18GHz whilst the Toshiba only runs 2.412GHz
​More important than the wireless band (2.4 GHz or 5.2 GHz) is Bit Rate.
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Of course. My comment on frequency was just an indicator of later technology.
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