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New guy found Linux mint AFTER disgusted with windows spy policies

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Hi all, I found this forum after deciding to try another OS. I have windows 7( yes its old , but works). I had issues with the grub menu. Decided to try Linux and see if it works for my daily needs. So far so good.

I have a compal nblb2 I bought around 2009( I think) .it shows the Linux mint 21.3 MATE option 1st to load and the 3rd option in windows 7. Linux mint loads, but takes about 3 min to load. Shows a few errors in loading , but eventually loads.

Windows 7 when pressed goes to a black screen and after 2 seconds returns to grub menu. Says: windows 7(on /Dev/sda1)

I am NEW to Linux and confused. 🙃

I took pictures, but do NOT know how to on upload pics on the forum.

Thanks for any help you guys can give. 😃👋
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Re: New guy found Linux mint AFTER disgusted with windows spy policies

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JoeD wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:10 amI have a compal nblb2 I bought around 2009( I think) .it shows the Linux mint 21.3 MATE option 1st to load and the 3rd option in windows 7. Linux mint loads, but takes about 3 min to load.
Loading should be about 1/2 minute or less IF, and what I always do, fit an SSD in place of the hard disk.

The 3 minutes is reasonably fast on a hard disk and Windows I'd expect to take about 8 minutes.

SSD fitting? I've done over 50 to laptops so far and usually Linux Mint Cinnamon.
We have MATE on an old laptop eMachines, that thought it was 32 bit but will actually load 64 bit Linux Mint Cinnamon.
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Hi JoeD, welcome to Linuxmint Forums.
If you need technical help, you should create your post in the corresponding board. You may need to repost it in the Beginner Questions
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Re: New guy found Linux mint AFTER disgusted with windows spy policies

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Hello JoeD,
Welcome to the Linux Mint forum, enjoy the journey! :)
We may be able to help with the linux boot process if next time you boot linux mint go to a terminal and type this command and post the output back here.

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systemd-analyze blame
It will tell you exactly what is taking the most boot time.
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Welcome to the forum and Linux mint! I’m a recent windows 7 to Linux mint user also. Hope you enjoy using it as much as I have.

Be sure to read through the tutorials area. Also the easy Linux tips project is a treasure-trove of info for new users. I have found it so valuable. Here: https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com/p/1.html

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JoeD wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:10 am I took pictures, but do NOT know how to upload pics on the forum.
That's a common problem here. There should be a small tutorial, somewhere, pinned on top. There are many ways to post pictures. The easiest way is to upload pictures right here, on the Linux Mint Forums servers.

You could just drag-and-drop your picture onto the posting page, i.e. that page where you are writing your new topic or reply. That's it that's all... Just click the "Preview" button to check things before you click the "Submit" button...

Alternately:
  1. Click on the "Attachments" tab, below the textarea, i.e. below that zone where you are currently writing. (see screenshot)
  2. Click the "Add files" button. (see screenshot)
  3. Browse to your picture and click "Open" or double-click.
  4. Click the "Preview" button to check things before you click the "Submit" button.
(click to enlarge)
(click to enlarge)

Maximum file size per attachment: 200 KB.

You may need to reduce your image size, using some image editing application. Using Pix, for example. Resize your image to 1920 x 1080 pixels or less. Check the file size: if that's still over 200 KB, then save as JPEG.

Else, if you want to post big images, over 200 KB, you will need to use an external image host, like https://imgur.com/ for example. But that's another story. :)
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JoeD wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:10 am I took pictures, but do NOT know how to on upload pics on the forum.
Hello and welcome! This might help: viewtopic.php?t=334468
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Moem wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:44 am This might help: viewtopic.php?t=334468
I find this "tutorial" misleading. It starts wrong. The OP is confusing the drag-and-drop with the rimg tag. The correct information can only be found when scrolling down to the reply:
absque fenestris wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:19 pm So I do the same with Attachments and Add Files...
I only use rimg for large images - more than 200 KB - that come from an external image host.
And that's a bit too short for newbies...
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sebastjava wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:02 am I find this "tutorial" misleading.
It sounds like you are the perfect person to write a better one; in fact you have pretty much already done so. If you will post it in Tutorials, I will gladly make it sticky.
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Moem wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:11 am It sounds like you are the perfect person to write a better one; in fact you have pretty much already done so. If you will post it in Tutorials, I will gladly make it sticky.
Thanks. :)
Done: How to post pictures on Linux Mint Forums

But that's just 1/2 of the job. There should be a part 2 about using external image hosts...
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kc1di wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:10 am Hello JoeD,
Welcome to the Linux Mint forum, enjoy the journey! :)
We may be able to help with the linux boot process if next time you boot linux mint go to a terminal and type this command and post the output back here.

Code: Select all

systemd-analyze blame
It will tell you exactly what is taking the most boot time.
Hello,, i posted the result of the command results below:

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joe@ShutYourHole:~$ systemd-analyze blame
24.481s lightdm.service
24.474s plymouth-quit-wait.service
10.811s setvtrgb.service
 8.825s dev-sda5.device
 8.784s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
 8.740s networkd-dispatcher.service
 6.253s udisks2.service
 5.867s systemd-udev-settle.service
 4.883s ModemManager.service
 4.454s systemd-journal-flush.service
 4.384s accounts-daemon.service
 3.876s ubuntu-system-adjustments.service
 3.767s systemd-udevd.service
 3.119s polkit.service
 2.864s avahi-daemon.service
 2.857s bluetooth.service
 2.782s switcheroo-control.service
 2.776s thermald.service
 2.775s wpa_supplicant.service
 2.772s systemd-logind.service
2.677s gpu-manager.service
 2.503s cups.service
 2.344s e2scrub_reap.service
lines 1-23...skipping...
24.481s lightdm.service
24.474s plymouth-quit-wait.service
10.811s setvtrgb.service
 8.825s dev-sda5.device
 8.784s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
 8.740s networkd-dispatcher.service
 6.253s udisks2.service
 5.867s systemd-udev-settle.service
 4.883s ModemManager.service
 4.454s systemd-journal-flush.service
 4.384s accounts-daemon.service
 3.876s ubuntu-system-adjustments.service
 3.767s systemd-udevd.service
 3.119s polkit.service
 2.864s avahi-daemon.service
 2.857s bluetooth.service
 2.782s switcheroo-control.service
2.776s thermald.service
 2.775s wpa_supplicant.service
 2.772s systemd-logind.service
 2.677s gpu-manager.service
 2.503s cups.service
 2.344s e2scrub_reap.service
 2.340s NetworkManager.service
lines 1-24...skipping...
24.481s lightdm.service
24.474s plymouth-quit-wait.service
10.811s setvtrgb.service
 8.825s dev-sda5.device
 8.784s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
 8.740s networkd-dispatcher.service
 6.253s udisks2.service
 5.867s systemd-udev-settle.service
 4.883s ModemManager.service
 4.454s systemd-journal-flush.service
 4.384s accounts-daemon.service
 3.876s ubuntu-system-adjustments.service
 3.767s systemd-udevd.service
 3.119s polkit.service
 2.864s avahi-daemon.service
 2.857s bluetooth.service
 2.782s switcheroo-control.service
 2.776s thermald.service
 2.775s wpa_supplicant.service
 2.772s systemd-logind.service
 2.677s gpu-manager.service
 2.503s cups.service
 2.344s e2scrub_reap.service
 2.340s NetworkManager.service
 2.187s ufw.service
lines 1-25...skipping...
24.481s lightdm.service
24.474s plymouth-quit-wait.service
10.811s setvtrgb.service
 8.825s dev-sda5.device
 8.784s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
 8.740s networkd-dispatcher.service
 6.253s udisks2.service
 5.867s systemd-udev-settle.service
 4.883s ModemManager.service
 4.454s systemd-journal-flush.service
 4.384s accounts-daemon.service
 3.876s ubuntu-system-adjustments.service
 3.767s systemd-udevd.service
 3.119s polkit.service
 2.864s avahi-daemon.service
 2.857s bluetooth.service
 2.782s switcheroo-control.service
 2.776s thermald.service
 2.775s wpa_supplicant.service
 2.772s systemd-logind.service
 2.677s gpu-manager.service
 2.503s cups.service
 2.344s e2scrub_reap.service
 2.340s NetworkManager.service
 2.187s ufw.service
 2.045s lm-sensors.service
lines 1-26...skipping...
24.481s lightdm.service
24.474s plymouth-quit-wait.service
10.811s setvtrgb.service
 8.825s dev-sda5.device
8.784s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
 8.740s networkd-dispatcher.service
 6.253s udisks2.service
 5.867s systemd-udev-settle.service
 4.883s ModemManager.service
 4.454s systemd-journal-flush.service
 4.384s accounts-daemon.service
 3.876s ubuntu-system-adjustments.service
 3.767s systemd-udevd.service
 3.119s polkit.service
 2.864s avahi-daemon.service
 2.857s bluetooth.service
 2.782s switcheroo-control.service
 2.776s thermald.service
 2.775s wpa_supplicant.service
 2.772s systemd-logind.service
 2.677s gpu-manager.service
 2.503s cups.service
 2.344s e2scrub_reap.service
 2.340s NetworkManager.service
 2.187s ufw.service
 2.045s lm-sensors.service
 1.967s upower.service
 1.962s rsyslog.service
 1.739s systemd-udev-trigger.service
 1.420s ifupdown-pre.service
 1.221s networking.service
 1.136s apparmor.service
 1.044s systemd-modules-load.service
 1.024s systemd-resolved.service
  811ms grub-common.service
  687ms zfs-load-module.service
  645ms systemd-sysusers.service
  630ms systemd-random-seed.service
  547ms grub-initrd-fallback.service
  456ms lvm2-monitor.service
  430ms systemd-journald.service
  356ms keyboard-setup.service
  303ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
286ms systemd-sysctl.service
  286ms systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service
  284ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
  271ms systemd-user-sessions.service
  260ms systemd-rfkill.service
  237ms user@1000.service
  224ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-EC5D\x2d06B6.service
  214ms swapfile.swap
  173ms systemd-timesyncd.service
  163ms blueman-mechanism.service
  157ms console-setup.service
  126ms systemd-binfmt.service
  119ms dev-hugepages.mount
  118ms dns-clean.service
lines 1-57
that's all that came up in the terminal window.

How do I get a picture to a 200kb size? My screenshot of the picture I took is 1.7mb. I have 3 pictures I would like to upload.

thank you for any help you can provide :D
Last edited by SMG on Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Added code tags to the terminal output.
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You have a ton of service that may not be needed and that's why it's taking so long to boot.
Here is the output of my machine. You can see that it's very much shorter than yours.
Only you can determine which services are truly needed.

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systemd-analyze blame
6.449s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
5.968s apt-daily.service
2.739s fwupd-refresh.service
2.635s fwupd.service
2.045s man-db.service
 748ms dev-sda1.device
 606ms apt-daily-upgrade.service
 475ms tlp.service
 456ms ufw.service
 301ms e2scrub_reap.service
 296ms apparmor.service
 286ms cups.service
 211ms udisks2.service
 174ms upower.service
 172ms networking.service
 161ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
 149ms user@1000.service
 135ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-e622867f\x2dd03d\x2d419c\x2da450\x2d0662cbf8172>
 132ms ModemManager.service
 130ms NetworkManager.service
 126ms systemd-timesyncd.service
 122ms keyboard-setup.service
 113ms accounts-daemon.service
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kc1di wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:07 pm You have a ton of service that may not be needed and that's why it's taking so long to boot.
Here is the output of my machine. You can see that it's very much shorter than yours.
Only you can determine which services are truly needed.

Code: Select all

systemd-analyze blame
6.449s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
5.968s apt-daily.service
2.739s fwupd-refresh.service
2.635s fwupd.service
2.045s man-db.service
 748ms dev-sda1.device
 606ms apt-daily-upgrade.service
 475ms tlp.service
 456ms ufw.service
 301ms e2scrub_reap.service
 296ms apparmor.service
 286ms cups.service
 211ms udisks2.service
 174ms upower.service
 172ms networking.service
 161ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
 149ms user@1000.service
 135ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-e622867f\x2dd03d\x2d419c\x2da450\x2d0662cbf8172>
 132ms ModemManager.service
 130ms NetworkManager.service
 126ms systemd-timesyncd.service
 122ms keyboard-setup.service
 113ms accounts-daemon.service
Hi, how do I figure out what these services are? I do NOT understand what I am looking at. 🤷‍♂️

Thanks for the input. Its a start.
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sebastjava wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:16 am that's just 1/2 of the job. There should be a part 2 about using external image hosts...
It's a good start!
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JoeD wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:05 pm How do I get a picture to a 200 kB size? My screenshot of the picture I took is 1.7 mB. I have 3 pictures I would like to upload.
You can put up to 3 attachments per posts. That's 200 kB + 200 kB + 200 kB = 600 kB (max.)
sebastjava wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:40 am Maximum file size per attachment: 200 kB.

You may need to reduce your image size, using some image editing application. Using Pix, for example. Resize your image to 1920 x 1080 pixels or less. Check the file size: if that's still over 200 kB, then save as JPEG: "filename.jpg".

Else, if you want to post big images, over 200 kB, you will need to use an external image host, like https://imgur.com/ for example. But that's another story. :)
You have Pix already there, on your Linux Mint DE. Pix is a simple image editing application.
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  2. Click on the brush icon near top-right corner to edit file. (see screenshot)
  3. Click one the of the two "Format" tools to resize and/or crop. (see screenshot)
  4. Save. (Or Save as... "filename.jpg" to save as JPEG. Just replace ".png" with ".jpg" when you "Save as...". The JPEG format can compress images for huge savings.)
Pix image edit menu, on the right column
Pix image edit menu, on the right column

Pix can be a bit confusing at first. Please take some time to explore it. Or any other image manipulation program will do. If you are more familiar with the big GIMP, then go for it !
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Recently heard of gimp , but will try what you said first. I assume the large amount of services loading at start up is due to the dual boot issue i have selecting windows 7. The screen goes black them reloads the grub menu. Only option I can successfully load is Linux mint mate.
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hello,

these are the process that i see when starting the linux mint. takes around 3 min to load. is this normal or perhaps it may have to do with the fact that i have Dualboot with windows 7, but i can NOT boot into windows 7 from the grub menu? all i see is the option to boot into windows 7 , but it only goes to black screen and then back to grub after 2 seconds.

thank you for any help you can provide
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