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Re: What Linux really needs for laptops

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klu9 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:46 pm
Lady Fitzgerald wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:25 pm It also has room for only two drives and not enough I/O ports. It's great in theory but doesn't go far enough for me.
Out of curiosity, what would you use 3 (or more?) drives for in a laptop? OS, storage, backup?
OS and storage. Backups are on external drives. My laptop has four drives, all of them 8TB. It's basically a desktop replacement for light workstation applications and a media center.
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by the time I finished my configuration,
I ended up with
$2,998.00 for it

wow, wonder if 16" display will look smaller than my current 17" screen??
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AZgl1800 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:35 pm by the time I finished my configuration,
I ended up with
$2,998.00 for it

wow, wonder if 16" display will look smaller than my current 17" screen??
I would say around an inch smaller. :wink:
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kpv wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:00 pm
MurphCID wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:01 am POWER control! Better battery life!
You mean Linux Mint, because other popular distros already come with some power management enabled out of the box:
- TLP (not included in any distros that I know of)
- PPD
- tuned
- system76-power
etc

IMHO LM should do the same. Ideally it should support hibernation.

Also enable zram/zswap and stem darkening.
It would be on my personal list of things I want to see in Linux and Linux Mint. As it is, I just don't want to purchase any laptop with less than a 70 w/hr batter just for usage life. System 76 power works decently I must admit.
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Re: What Linux really needs for laptops

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Lady Fitzgerald wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:56 pm OS and storage. Backups are external drives. My laptop has four drives, all of them 8TB. It's basically a desktop replacement for light workstation applications and a media center.
Thanks, got it.
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Re: What Linux really needs for laptops

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Lady Fitzgerald wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:53 pm
AZgl1800 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:35 pm by the time I finished my configuration,
I ended up with
$2,998.00 for it

wow, wonder if 16" display will look smaller than my current 17" screen??
I would say around an inch smaller. :wink:
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Re: What Linux really needs for laptops

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If you want power efficiency, start with a Raspberry Pi.

Raspberry Pi were making ARM based motherboards back when Apple was dumping PowerPC to proclaim the X86 processor, which "Apple invented", the greatest thing ever.

The Pi uses LXDE which, to me, is not as good as Cinnamon, but it uses less power and Raspberry Pi tuned LXDE for the Pi by changing the Windows Manager and other components. Low power!

ARM gets that low power by not using performance features. No multiple level caches. No instruction decoding. You have to build performance optimisation into the code compiler. Which creates problems when you swithc from one ARM CPU to another.

ARM chips are built like Lego bricks. You buy the rights for 1 of this, 2 of that. You can build at least 3,678,473 different ARM CPUs. If you include super performance feature 1,367 and the programmer does not include code for that feature, the feature is wasted. That is why it is so hard to get performance from Apple chips if you are not an Apple programmer.

As an engineer testing alternatives to Intel laptops, desktops, and servers, Apple never delivered a machine in Australia that was faster than the best from Intel and Apple was always more expensive. I was testing machines you could buy, not announcements.

China backs RiscV because they do not want to pay one of the world's richest companies tens of billions of dollars in licensing fees for ARM. RiscV has an interesting future.
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