Man I had to jump through hoops to use the newest versions of tor and privoxy,
I finally got it working but perhaps the latest versions could be installed and configured by default for anonymous web browsing.
Easy Tor+Privoxy+TorButton
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While the hoops I had to jump through were really big and low to the ground 
I have to agree with maynoth.....
I would really like to see a higher priority put on the availability of the most recent version of the more popular encryption and privacy (anonymity) software.....such as tor.
Privoxy is up to date.....however.......that may be due to that fact that the latest version of privoxy is from late 2006
But hey it's free.....I take what I can get with a giant smile to boot...
I have to agree with maynoth.....I would really like to see a higher priority put on the availability of the most recent version of the more popular encryption and privacy (anonymity) software.....such as tor.
Privoxy is up to date.....however.......that may be due to that fact that the latest version of privoxy is from late 2006
But hey it's free.....I take what I can get with a giant smile to boot...
Sorry my reply is so long....but this issue for me is extremely important....and hard to talk about in just a few lines.
Ede --- "What's the point in anonymous browsing anyway if you're not conducting illegal surfing, like cp and such?"
I'm glad you asked such an important question.
Here is my take on that statement:
If you go back and read about history you learn that 100% of the time every government that has ever existed for any length of time eventually turns severely tyrannical. So things that are not actually criminal are made criminal.....especially religion.
Therefore learning from history we can see that the statement "if your not doing anything illegal" should never be used as an argument for anything concerning ones right to privacy.
I'm assuming "cp" is copyright or the copying and pasting of copyrighted material? If so then my answer to that is that cp must always take a back seat to ones rights.....i.e. the right to remain anonymous and to use encryption. while cp is very important it should be up to the individual cp owner to guard his/her material. If that means not putting it up on the internet then so be it.
Privacy, liberty, and rights are the most important things a person can possess....for without those you don't even have copyrights.....and more often than not you will even lose your life. Even though you really weren't "doing anything illegal"!
To me encryption and being anonymous is mainly about protecting myself from government...but it's also about the fact that I just plain don't want any Joe Smoe in my business. And speaking of business if am running a business and I need to send my partner some confidential business related material then I definitely don't want anyone seeing that information!
Also...about the programs just taking up space....that could have been an argument in the 80's and 90's but not today. Tor and Pivoxy are extremely small programs and storage space is extremely cheap now. Essentially unlimited.
Thank you for your consideration.
ZxEfR
Ede --- "What's the point in anonymous browsing anyway if you're not conducting illegal surfing, like cp and such?"
I'm glad you asked such an important question.
Here is my take on that statement:
If you go back and read about history you learn that 100% of the time every government that has ever existed for any length of time eventually turns severely tyrannical. So things that are not actually criminal are made criminal.....especially religion.
Therefore learning from history we can see that the statement "if your not doing anything illegal" should never be used as an argument for anything concerning ones right to privacy.
I'm assuming "cp" is copyright or the copying and pasting of copyrighted material? If so then my answer to that is that cp must always take a back seat to ones rights.....i.e. the right to remain anonymous and to use encryption. while cp is very important it should be up to the individual cp owner to guard his/her material. If that means not putting it up on the internet then so be it.
Privacy, liberty, and rights are the most important things a person can possess....for without those you don't even have copyrights.....and more often than not you will even lose your life. Even though you really weren't "doing anything illegal"!
To me encryption and being anonymous is mainly about protecting myself from government...but it's also about the fact that I just plain don't want any Joe Smoe in my business. And speaking of business if am running a business and I need to send my partner some confidential business related material then I definitely don't want anyone seeing that information!
Also...about the programs just taking up space....that could have been an argument in the 80's and 90's but not today. Tor and Pivoxy are extremely small programs and storage space is extremely cheap now. Essentially unlimited.
Thank you for your consideration.
ZxEfR
Well I think that Tor is important SW, and btw it does not use a lot of space.More software = Less space for more imporant stuff.
I really think that it would be nice if LinuxMint would have Tor and Pri. installed by default. But on the other hand, I think that people you are aware about privacy will be able to install tor without any problems. A default installation is somehow risky...Well call me paranoid, but I think that such SW should be installed by the user him/herself. so that s/he knows what and why s/he does it.
Oh and btw: when ubuntu 7.10 arrives, will it be shipped with the newest Tor version? And if yes:The Tor version will be updated, with the next release of LinuxMint right?
Greetings K.
Edit: Sorry for my poor english. I am german. And for all you german privacy friends, here is a tor installation how to:
http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Tor
http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Privoxy
kosmonaut --- "A default installation is somehow risky...Well call me paranoid, but I think that such SW should be installed by the user him/herself. so that s/he knows what and why s/he does it."
I never thought about that.....that is a very good point! I was wishing that Synaptic had Truecrypt too but now even if they added it I won't use it....I'm going straight to the source for all this stuff from now on!!!
I never thought about that.....that is a very good point! I was wishing that Synaptic had Truecrypt too but now even if they added it I won't use it....I'm going straight to the source for all this stuff from now on!!!
I am guessing you don't live in the USA? Things have really gotten bad here, most of the things I use tor for are political in nature. This is about big brother, not illegal <violates forum rules> or such.Ede wrote:I fail to see the point in this. More software = Less space for more imporant stuff. What's the big fuzz about tor anyway? Anonymous browsing at the cost of net-speed? Sure, I'we tried tor, but found it useless.
What's the point in anonymous browsing anyway if you're not conducting illegal surfing, like cp and such?
Just an other how.to:
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-instal ... refox.html
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-instal ... refox.html
Well...as we discuss TOR:
read this http://www.derangedsecurity.com/time-to ... %E2%80%A6/
I guess I have to rethink security issues after reading that
read this http://www.derangedsecurity.com/time-to ... %E2%80%A6/
I guess I have to rethink security issues after reading that
Yeah I came to knowing about TOR via the Security Now podcast so I was aware of what TOR can and can't do. I never check my mail or do any banking through TOR or anything like that. I just used it as an anonymizer and even then I knew it's not perfect.
What I can't believe is that government IT would tell people to use TOR for security!!! That's just stupid. Uh......well after thinking about it for a couple seconds more....yes I actually can believe government IT would do that......
What I can't believe is that government IT would tell people to use TOR for security!!! That's just stupid. Uh......well after thinking about it for a couple seconds more....yes I actually can believe government IT would do that......
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Husse
