Here are my thoughts on what needs to be FIXED/REPLACED/ADDED/UPDATED/REMOVED for the next release of KMint 11 Kataya.
This is based on my testing and the posts in the KDE forum.
I am going to set some ground rules here in regards to those who wish to suggest other additions/fixes etc...
1) DVD is the size of the ISO. The recent poll sets it straight 89% can read a DVD. Its time to update if you don't have this. Nor is a slow interenet connection a reason to hold back use of a DVD sized ISO. There are plenty of resources available for purchase of a DVD in many places.
2) And to clarify #1, thats a FULL 4.7GB ISO.
3) WhINE - is not on the table. If you would like to see this.. please use another thread.
4) monoDisease and any program using or requiring it and the libraries a part of it are NOT on the table either. If you would like to see this.. please use another thread.
5) NON OEM video drivers are not in play here.
So on to the hit parade......
KMint 11 Kataya Wish List
0) REMOVE/REPLACE/FIX - plymouth - This needs to be fixed to work with OEM nVidia and the open source drivers for various cards where it currently FAILS MISERABLY! Either fix plymouth and its ugly blue screen of stupidity or REMOVE it and REPLACE with something that works, or let the text scroll by during boot up. If a certain other OS can do these splash screens reliably then there is NO REASON LINUX can not as well.
See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... bug/563878
And since it seems upstream is just not listening.... see the FIX here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=69688
And for the record the following is NOT THE SOLUTION:
"“Black splash screens
In Linux Mint 11 the boot splash screen is now completely black. It doesn’t show a logo with green dots as it used to. This is by design. Once the system is installed the boot sequence is relatively fast. The black loading sequence doesn’t look out of place and it looks consistent across all computers, whatever driver you’re using.”"
Why is this NOT the solution? Theres tons of "bug reports" of a black screen...
I am just not going to even go any further than this. . . . . The solution is the same for OEM users... not lets see some of that Minty Magic in developing a real solution to this mess from upstream.
1) REMOVE - pulseaudio - its a dud - not needed in KDE or any other DE for that matter, its pretty much despised universally outside canonicial.
2) RESTORE -the ALSA OSS emulation to the kernel by compiling our own kernels, if canonicial doesn't restrore this for their kernels.
See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... mments=all
3) UPDATE - USB creator to work with 8GB and larger devices to correct the "not a valid COM32 image" and auto start of the USB device
4) ADD - Exaile - see http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=69365
5) ADD - Clementine
6) ADD - gstreamer-alsa by default so programs like Exaile work with CD's
7) REPLACE - oo with Open[Libre]Office (I am not giving that name to the tyrant!) and ALL PIECES INCLUDING BASE!
8 ) RESTORE - HPLIP GUI - the base packages are there put the config/setup interface back.
9) FIX - the overwriting of kdmrc by mintUpdate after updates
10 ) FIX/REMOVE/REPLACE - networkmanager - This network assistant is just broken and useless for any one who needs static IP and especially for "system connections." Too much not supported, not implemented or just plain broken, its time for it to be replaced till it either matures or just dies off. See: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=68595
11) FIX - cups - CUPS does not and will not start in the Live DVD thus no printing in the Live DVD or on a USB version. This needs to be corrected so CUPS and printing can be tested in the Live DVD and for USB use when you walk up to a computer and boot up to a real OS.
See: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=66491 and
here is the issue with LIVE/USB:
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[ 85.039104] type=1400 audit(1303758194.942:2): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" pid=1859 comm="apparmor_parser" [ 85.039331] type=1400 audit(1303758194.942:3): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd" pid=1859 comm="apparmor_parser" [ 87.667020] lp: driver loaded but no devices found [ 88.486151] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver [ 89.411089] type=1400 audit(1303758199.322:4): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name="/rofs/etc/ld.so.cache" pid=1913 comm="cupsd" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0 [ 89.677989] type=1400 audit(1303758199.582:5): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name="/rofs/usr/lib/libcupsmime.so.1" pid=1913 comm="cupsd" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
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mint@mintkde /etc/apparmor.d $ sudo ln -s /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd /etc/apparmor.d/disable/ mint@mintkde /etc/apparmor.d $ sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd mint@mintkde /etc/apparmor.d $ sudo service cups start cups start/running, process 4324 mint@mintkde /etc/apparmor.d $
12) CREATE - KDebMint - A Debian based version in addition to the *bunutu based one would be a WELCOME addition.... BUT... theres a lot of work needed for this... Example... many of the various audio programs like darkice etc. will need to be RE-COMPILED in OUR OWN KDebMint repos as they are fubar'd with out MP3 support etc..
13) ADD - krdc and krfb to 64b KMint - they were missing from the ISO on Julia. Present on 32b.
14) CREATE - ROADMAP for the future of KMint and KDebMint that is public and viewable and where comments and discussion on it can occur.
15) INVOLVE - COMMUNITY - More involvement of the KMint community in testing, direction, and guidance of K[Deb]Mint. One developer and a few testers are overworked. Lets get more of those on this forum involved.
16) MORE - testing - I would like to see more testing before release to weed out things like the CUPS issue on the Live DVD, and the networkmanager period. I know there are some very impatient users, and many that do not understand that KMint is not released as soon as some other version might be. I have no problem with that. Its taken me 2 months basically to put this through its paces. I've got a couple final things to wrap for my issues which just maybe a Samba update today is going to fix.
17) MORE - UPDATES - Whats going on in the development of the release. The testing area on the community site is a good start, but more, much more can be done. See the *bunutus and the schedules and data on alphas and betas and RC's released.
As per mintnoob
18) ADD - Upgrade In place or Rolling Distro - The *buntus have an upgrade procedure in place to upgrade from each version... or a Rolling release...
19) REMOVE - GStreamer and REPLACE with XINE BACK END. XINE is the KDE backend, not gstreamer, and from the beta 1 of upstream, the gstreamer backend is NOT ready for prime time.. hmm seems to be a trend upstream... picking the WRONG HORSE in the race!
I welcome, encourage and look forward to DEBATE, and DISCUSSION but responsible DEBATE and DISCUSSION. Lively and passionate is great and fine. So leave your "PC" at the gate, and lets debate!
Please review the "ground/thread rules" for this thread. Some are going to be displeased with these, that is fine. I welcome and encourage YOU to create your own thread in defense of those options. I think the recent survey points the way on one issue, ISO size. And as for others your welcome to see the "benefit" in those areas, I do not. I do not use a certain DE just for the reason of its inclusion of certain items, throw in the other issues I have with that DE... well I guess I know why it uses a stinky foot for its logo.