Didn't know that about desktop hp's, I never bought a desktop except for an ibm in the 90's I always built my own after that.
Thats just not fair, makes you buy everything from them like that
I used to work for dell a few years back they weren't allowed to sell refurbs as new back then unless they sold them off on someone else to sell them, looks like they changed their position after they left the country (both Canada and the USA). The only other way was if it was a return to be fixed then they were allowed to send another back as a refurb.
Too bad they were a great company at one point although I never owned one they were pretty good.
Oh well, better do some research if I ever buy another laptop, if I ever own another desktop again I'll just build it again but I switched to laptops after I said I never would own one, The wife converted me
and I converted her to linux.