MALsPa wrote:Still, the simple reality is that the GNOME version has always been the top priority, and it still is. Okay, so things didn't go according to plan and Mint 11 KDE got put on the back burner. That's how things go sometimes. Sorry, but if folks can't accept all that, then it seems to me that a "KDE distro" would be a better option. Or maybe just chill and wait a few months. Either way, I'm pretty sure that the world will keep on spinning and life will go on.
Sorry MALsPA I still don't agree with your point of view and I still do not agree with Craig.
There's an assumption in some peoples posts that the people who want the KDE version do not know how Mint works. I'm pretty sure we all know the Ubuntu based Gnome edition is the main edition. We also know what percentage of the community is KDE based. We also understand that there were issues with Ubuntu based edition of KDE, I followed the testing on the community page so I know where that fell down.
THIS IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT, as Foggytown and Disciple say;
foggytown wrote:I don't get the whole stringing people along thing, who does that benefit?
Is Mint striving to be an example of how not to manage a "community" based distro?
First the CE gets dropped, allegedly striving for more parity. But unable to make a decent KDE spin from Ubuntu base. Then abandonment of Ubuntu base with a projected mid-August release goal. Then we need to finalize the LMDE spin, get on it right after that. Then it gets pushed back till after update packs are prepared, really really we will get on it after that. In the meantime the new Ubuntu gets released and the main edition takes precedence, after that...for real this time? Should I just assume that something else that takes precedence will come up before December? "Sorry we have to polish the gnome logo, we will do KDE in January."
And of course don't communicate like rational beings, leave hints in comments of unrelated blog posts...let people read tea leaves for the clues for all the good it will do them. If Clem does not want to do a KDE edition, then don't do one. But to string people along a month at a time is pretty much BS.
disciple1964 wrote:
You cannot advertise a KDE version and then say , that those who use this version is not important. As with any development whether commercial or free, Communication is key, If you don't believe it, then why do so many businesses now use twitter to communicate upcoming products.
It's about saying you'll do something (on numerous occasions) then failing to do what YOU HAVE SAID.
Worse still none of this is communicated well.
MALsPa I could wait till December but should I now trust Clem to deliver. He's now failed many times where KDE is concerned.
If you respond to this please don't just reiterate for the nth time that KDE is only a small part of Mint and that other parts are more important. It doe's not address the underlying issue at all. And, as previously said saying that KDE users should just go to another distro doesn't help either. I'm sure that most of us KDE users are perfectly aware that there are other options, there don't seem to be many newb KDE users here.
you're not kidding...he sure needs it 
The Ubuntu based Mint is still the best in usability. And yeah, as Fandangio said: I'd also prefer a single cutting edge awesome Edition