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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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I also can't change from the oxygen theme to others without logging out. I don't know what apps to remove other than all of the kde and qt stuff... but Schoelje seems to want it for consistency (which makes sense). I can't change mouse pointers from the xfce gui (the command line works fine), even after logging out and rebooting. I don't see any other problems with it right now, but I haven't tried it thoroughly.
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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ddm pae kernel install

on a fresh install tried ddm again took very long time to instal pae image. Debians usually take 10 minutes or so. Left running after 15 minutes came back after 1/2 hour finally installed. **will check mirrors speed?

Web Cam didn't realise can open capture (video) device in VLC :oops: Liking VLC more and more as explore it. :P Still Frame rates seem slow even for a Debian (maybe problem with Intergrated intel GFX driver(?)

Any on know the Auto play command to give VLC to play a cd/dvd (to set in removable drives & media).

J.Jay
P.S. also changed theme appearance>crux & Window manager to Wallis (oxygen was rendering 'washed out' and giving be headaches (exspecially web/browser) :shock:
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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also found

main menu in setting, from right click on menu (Icon) and entering 'alacarte' from a run command (alt+F2) doesn't work. Alacarte installed as listed in synaptic.

banshee still listed in setting>removable drives & media 'media tab' for running audio cd (switch to either vlc or exaile) tho I install
audacious for play music.

changing theme from setting mouse & touchpad not working

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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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zerozero wrote:- one issue i noticed here (have no idea if it's replicable elsewhere): when changing from the default qt theme/icon to any gtk-based ghanges don't apply immediately (actually i need a logout for that); the same doesn't happen changing between gtk-based themes/icons afterwards (changes are immediate) << it's not a major issue but i'm puzzled.
I know, I mentioned it after I uploaded the alpha version: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 01#p669701
but because the engine is a binary file, I can't do anything about it.
zerozero wrote:- i thought about parole's removal now that vlc "has" to be installed (it's done 8) ) << in this topic i can't see ways to slim the iso, not if you want to give the user a proper ootb experience
I definately don't want to comprimize regarding the ootb experience.
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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changing theme from setting mouse & touchpad not working
Sorry seems to change after relogin/reboot. But any of oxygen (mouse) themes change with out reboot/login :?
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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jjaythomas wrote:ddm pae kernel install

on a fresh install tried ddm again took very long time to instal pae image. Debians usually take 10 minutes or so. Left running after 15 minutes came back after 1/2 hour finally installed. **will check mirrors speed?
Try another mirror:

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sudo mint-choose-debian-mirror
sudo apt-get update
jjaythomas wrote:Any on know the Auto play command to give VLC to play a cd/dvd (to set in removable drives & media).

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vlc -vvv cdda:///dev/sr0
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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jjaythomas wrote:main menu in setting, from right click on menu (Icon) and entering 'alacarte' from a run command (alt+F2) doesn't work. Alacarte installed as listed in synaptic.
Right click menu icon -> Properties -> Use the default menu (selected) + Edit Menu doesn't seem to do a thing either...will have to look into that.

[EDIT]
It seems that Alacarte is looking for gnome-applications-menu hard-coded :shock:
As symlink fixes the problem:

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cd $HOME/.config/menus
ln -s xfce-applications.menu gnome-applications.menu
jjaythomas wrote:banshee still listed in setting>removable drives & media 'media tab' for running audio cd (switch to either vlc or exaile) tho I install audacious for play music.
I found that after the beta upload. Will be fixed in final release.
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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Has anybody found a solution for the missing network icons?
I couldn't find an icon theme that would show the icons correctly :(

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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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[in a hurry :lol: ]
the slowness we experience installing (specially in the configuring FF and TB part where live-installer has to d/l the language-packs) and in ddm installing the pae kernel and the drivers is because the default repos are very slow at the moment (have been like that for some time)
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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I'm afraid Alacarte is a goner: when you try to edit an item (or add a new one), it crashes without an error message.
When you run it in terminal, you see a nice traceback.
This error has been filed in 2011 and hasn't been dealt with since: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... bug/826049

I can't remember, but what are the alternatives?

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There seems to be a patch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1089438
I'm going to test that first: replace gnome-desktop-item-edit to exo-desktop-item-edit in /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MainWindow.py.
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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LXMED works, but is not ideal (Categories are not recognized in same manner)
But it can be useful...

http://lxmed.sourceforge.net/

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Edit:
There was a problem with alacarte/python in SID a while back...??
You MIGHT find something pertinent here.
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 40#p503430
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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GeneC wrote:LXMED works, but is not ideal (Categories are not recognized in same manner)
But it can be useful...

http://lxmed.sourceforge.net/
I had installed it sucessfully before in old LMDE/XFCE, wont install in UN/XFCE/alpha.?
I think it needs JAVA?

YES..
http://lxmed.sourceforge.net/help.html#java
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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This may be a better solution.

Its not a Menu Editor (as such) but can edit the menu.... :P

XFCE Application Finder. (right click on app, and edit name, icon, command), you can HIDE icon, et.???
Also works excellently as a Menu itself..

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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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I'll take that as a backup.
I changed and repacked Alacarte...just see if that works.

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Fix Alacarte:

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sed -i -e '/gnome-desktop-item-edit/ s/gnome/exo/' /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MainWindow.py
sed -i -e '/gnome-/ s/gnome/xfce/' /usr/share/alacarte/Alacarte/MenuEditor.py
However, when there is an update of Alacarte, the patch will be overwritten...
I've forked Alacarte source to make some improvements when I have the time.
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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I've been using as mainmenu also...
XFCE Application Finder. (right click on app, and edit name, icon, command), you can HIDE icon, et.???
Also works excellently as a Menu itself..
BUT never new that :) Your a fountain of info Gene :P

J.Jay

P.S. changed mirrors (metrocast I think) everything alot speedier :)
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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If there are no more issues (except for this one: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 49#p670849)...shall I upload the release candidates (32 and 64-bit)?
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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[quote][/quote]If there are no more issues (except for this one: viewtopic.php?p=670849#p670849)...shall I upload the release candidates (32 and 64-bit)?

YES love to try 64Bit and see how skype(4.0.8 pre MS one) works in multi-arch. (Why asked alot web Cam qustions/requests. :)

Big Thank You again
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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jjaythomas wrote:...... Your a fountain of info Gene :P

J.Jay

...........
Hey JJ... :D
Thanks, but..... I am often told, I am a fountain of something, but its not usually INFO..... :lol:

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About alacarte....
I uninstalled it, to re-install, that was a big mistake.... :shock:
gene@lmde-xfce:~$ apt install alacarte
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
apg cheese-common cups-pk-helper evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common folks-common
gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-folks-0.6 gir1.2-gck-1 gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-gcr-3
gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 gir1.2-gee-1.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0
gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gir1.2-polkit-1.0 gir1.2-soup-2.4 gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12
gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 gir1.2-xkl-1.0 gjs gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-bluetooth
gnome-contacts gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-data gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-media gnome-menus
gnome-online-accounts gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-power-manager gnome-session gnome-session-bin
gnome-session-common gnome-session-fallback gnome-settings-daemon gnome-shell gnome-shell-common libcamel-1.2-33
libcaribou-common libcaribou0 libcheese-gtk21 libcheese3 libclutter-imcontext-0.1-0 libclutter-imcontext-0.1-bin
libcluttergesture-0.0.2-0 libebackend-1.2-2 libebook-1.2-13 libecal-1.2-11 libedata-book-1.2-13 libedata-cal-1.2-15
libedataserver-1.2-16 libedataserverui-3.0-1 libfolks-eds25 libfolks-telepathy25 libfolks25 libgdata-common libgdata13
libgjs0b libgnome-bluetooth10 libgnome-desktop-3-2 libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd7
libgoa-1.0-0 libgoa-1.0-common libgucharmap-2-90-7 libgweather-3-0 libgweather-common libmission-control-plugins0
libmozjs185-1.0 libmutter0 libmx-1.0-2 libmx-bin libmx-common libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib4 libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0
libnm-util2 liboauth0 libpackagekit-glib2-14 libpanel-applet-4-0 librest-extras-0.7-0 libsocialweb-client2
libsocialweb-common libsocialweb-service libsocialweb0 libtelepathy-logger2 libwacom-common libwacom2 mousetweaks
mutter-common notification-daemon obexd-client python-aptdaemon.pkcompat python-packagekit telepathy-mission-control-5
Suggested packages:
evolution evolution-data-server-dbg nautilus-sendto gnome-user-share nautilus gnome-screensaver telepathy-haze
Recommended packages:
packagekit-system-interface packagekit
The following NEW packages will be installed:
alacarte apg cheese-common cups-pk-helper evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common folks-common
gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0 gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-folks-0.6 gir1.2-gck-1 gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-gcr-3
gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 gir1.2-gee-1.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0
gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gir1.2-polkit-1.0 gir1.2-soup-2.4 gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12
gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 gir1.2-xkl-1.0 gjs gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-bluetooth
gnome-contacts gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-data gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-media gnome-menus
gnome-online-accounts gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-power-manager gnome-session gnome-session-bin
gnome-session-common gnome-session-fallback gnome-settings-daemon gnome-shell gnome-shell-common libcamel-1.2-33
libcaribou-common libcaribou0 libcheese-gtk21 libcheese3 libclutter-imcontext-0.1-0 libclutter-imcontext-0.1-bin
libcluttergesture-0.0.2-0 libebackend-1.2-2 libebook-1.2-13 libecal-1.2-11 libedata-book-1.2-13 libedata-cal-1.2-15
libedataserver-1.2-16 libedataserverui-3.0-1 libfolks-eds25 libfolks-telepathy25 libfolks25 libgdata-common libgdata13
libgjs0b libgnome-bluetooth10 libgnome-desktop-3-2 libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd7
libgoa-1.0-0 libgoa-1.0-common libgucharmap-2-90-7 libgweather-3-0 libgweather-common libmission-control-plugins0
libmozjs185-1.0 libmutter0 libmx-1.0-2 libmx-bin libmx-common libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib4 libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0
libnm-util2 liboauth0 libpackagekit-glib2-14 libpanel-applet-4-0 librest-extras-0.7-0 libsocialweb-client2
libsocialweb-common libsocialweb-service libsocialweb0 libtelepathy-logger2 libwacom-common libwacom2 mousetweaks
mutter-common notification-daemon obexd-client python-aptdaemon.pkcompat python-packagekit telepathy-mission-control-5
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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:lol: Gene that is a big N :shock:
if you install it with

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--no-install-recommends
will it be functional (well, as much as alacarte can be nowadays :mrgreen: :?: )
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Re: The unofficial LMDE XFCE

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'zz'...:lol:
My lightweight lmce/xfce was about to go down the tubes...

That is better...
gene@lmde-xfce:~$ apt install --no-install-recommends alacarte
[sudo] password for gene:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Recommended packages:
gnome-panel
The following NEW packages will be installed:
alacarte
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Gotta put that command in my 'clicompanion' too damn old to actually remember it...

Thanks.. :wink:
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