fstab edit for ntfs mount [SOLVED]

[Catchpole]

How can I auto mount my second ntfs hard drive by editing the fstab file?
I want to access it from /media/windows/c in the command line.

I've created the mount point "/media/windows/c" and tried two differnt entries in fstab:
(At different times. Without the #)

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#/dev/sdb1      /media/windows/c        ntfs    defaults        0       0
#UUID=A8ECC8EAECC8B3BA  /media/windows/c ntfs   auto,users,utf8 0       0

However both give an error when booting. (press S to skip mounting)
I know I can do this with the GUI but I'm trying to learn more about the command line.

What am I doing wrong?

[altair4]

I don't like the options list in the second one but before recommending something else would you please post the output of the following command:

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sudo blkid -c /dev/null

[Catchpole]

Hi altair4,

The output of the blkid is:

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/dev/sda1: UUID="f497a324-fbed-49e2-87ba-4368c0261d8c" TYPE="ext4" 
/dev/sda5: UUID="7e38860f-8a3a-4390-ae73-eb3ba751a243" TYPE="swap" 
/dev/sdb1: UUID="A8ECC8EAECC8B3BA" TYPE="ntfs" 
/dev/sdb2: LABEL="New Volume" UUID="CC2A34262A341046" TYPE="ntfs"/dev/sda1: UUID="f497a324-fbed-49e2-87ba-4368c0261d8c" TYPE="ext4" 
/dev/sda5: UUID="7e38860f-8a3a-4390-ae73-eb3ba751a243" TYPE="swap" 
/dev/sdb1: UUID="A8ECC8EAECC8B3BA" TYPE="ntfs" 
/dev/sdb2: LABEL="New Volume" UUID="CC2A34262A341046" TYPE="ntfs"

[altair4]

Well, I still don't like the options you used but it should have worked.

** If you have mounted it manually or through the file manager unmount it.

** Then go back into fstab and remove the # in front of the line specifying the UUID and save it.

** Then run the following command:

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sudo mount -a

If it gives you an error message post it.

If it came back to the prompt then it should have mounted the partition to /media/windows/c.

[Catchpole]

Hi altair4,

I followed your instructions and found that I had put the mount point in "mnt" and not "media".
So that part of the problem is solved.

The options I used were from an example and were added in desperation because of the original problem of not mounting at boot time.
I am the only user of the computer and so there is no security problem. I'll investigate the options later and modify accordingly.

So I have two questions:

Is there a recommendation of where to mount a second ntfs hdd?

If I leave the "options" open, will the system use its own default settings?

[altair4]

In reverse order:

** You can't leave the "options" list blank because the system is pretty persnickety about the syntax of that line and it's expecting something to be there.

** You can use "defaults" as in:

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UUID=A8ECC8EAECC8B3BA  /mnt/windows/c ntfs   defaults 0       0

That will mount the partition with owner=root and with permissions of 777.

** My recommendation is to use the following:

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UUID=A8ECC8EAECC8B3BA  /mnt/windows/c ntfs   defaults,nls=utf8,umask=000,uid=1000,windows_names 0 0

umask=000 - will produce the same 777 permissions as the default but I like to state it explicitly so I know what I've done.

uid=1000 - will change ownership from root to you. I do that in case I want to create a samba share of the partition and to remove the error message if I send something to the trash.

windows_names - prevents you from creating a file with certain characters in the name that Windows cannot interpret and as a result discards.

BTW, not a big fan of mounting the partition the Windows OS itself lives in as writable but it seems this is the only ntfs partition you have.

** You can really mount a partition anywhere you want.

[Catchpole]

altair4,
Thanks very much for your help and expertise.
Its increased my knowledge somewhat but I've still got a long way to go.