Am I expecting to much Mint Mate 15 Old PC

Dyslexic1 · Post by **Dyslexic1** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:03 am

Hi I have been using Mint for three weeks now, was using Mint cinnamon but keep getting crashing into Fallback Mode. From chat was told about Mint MATE for been using that.

Computer seems very slow at time can't run video from Vimeo with HD turned off. I got 3gb ram in and did try a GeForce 6200 but didn't get working.
Also slow on youtube and a number of other site none video. I used update manager and also read about there no defrag and after only three weeks!

So am I trying to polish a turd?

Edit: crashing was on Cinnamon not on MATE.

Card I got installed

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dlx@Minty ~ $ lspci | grep "VGA"
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA 2164W [Millennium II]
01:02.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
dlx@Minty ~ $

Hardware ouput

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dlx@Minty ~ $ lshw
WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
minty                     
    description: Computer
    width: 32 bits
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       physical id: 0
     *-memory
          description: System memory
          physical id: 0
          size: 3021MiB
     *-cpu
          product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 1
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: 15.4.1
          serial: 0000-0F41-0000-0000-0000-0000
          size: 2650MHz
          width: 32 bits
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
          configuration: id=0
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 02
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=agpgart-intel
          resources: irq:0 memory:fe800000-febfffff
        *-display
             description: Display controller
             product: 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
             resources: irq:16 memory:f0000000-f7ffffff memory:fe780000-fe7fffff ioport:ec00(size=8)
        *-generic UNCLAIMED
             description: System peripheral
             product: 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Memory Interface
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 6
             bus info: pci@0000:00:06.0
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: memory:fecf0000-fecf0fff
        *-usb:0
             description: USB controller
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:16 ioport:dc00(size=32)
        *-usb:1
             description: USB controller
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:19 ioport:e000(size=32)
        *-usb:2
             description: USB controller
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:18 ioport:e400(size=32)
        *-usb:3
             description: USB controller
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.3
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: uhci bus_master
             configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:16 ioport:e800(size=32)
        *-usb:4
             description: USB controller
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1d.7
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci-pci latency=0
             resources: irq:23 memory:fe77bc00-fe77bfff
        *-pci
             description: PCI bridge
             product: 82801 PCI Bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1e
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
             version: c2
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
             resources: ioport:b000(size=4096) memory:f9500000-fe5fffff memory:c7400000-e93fffff
           *-display:0 UNCLAIMED
                description: VGA compatible controller
                product: MGA 2164W [Millennium II]
                vendor: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd.
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                version: 00
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: vga_controller
                configuration: latency=32
                resources: memory:e7000000-e7ffffff memory:fe5fc000-fe5fffff memory:fd800000-fdffffff memory:fe5e0000-fe5effff
           *-display:1
                description: VGA compatible controller
                product: NV44A [GeForce 6200]
                vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
                physical id: 2
                bus info: pci@0000:01:02.0
                version: a1
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 66MHz
                capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
                configuration: driver=nouveau latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5
                resources: irq:17 memory:fc000000-fcffffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff memory:fb000000-fbffffff memory:fe5c0000-fe5dffff
           *-network
                description: Ethernet interface
                product: 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller
                vendor: Intel Corporation
                physical id: 8
                bus info: pci@0000:01:08.0
                logical name: eth0
                version: 02
                serial: 00:0f:fe:a8:04:b3
                size: 100Mbit/s
                capacity: 100Mbit/s
                width: 32 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
                configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e100 driverversion=3.5.24-k2-NAPI duplex=full ip=192.168.1.88 latency=32 link=yes maxlatency=56 mingnt=8 multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
                resources: irq:9 memory:fe5f7000-fe5f7fff ioport:bc00(size=64)
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master
             configuration: driver=lpc_ich latency=0
             resources: irq:0
        *-ide
             description: IDE interface
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: ide bus_master
             configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0
             resources: irq:18 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:fc00(size=16) memory:c0000000-c00003ff
        *-serial UNCLAIMED
             description: SMBus
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: ioport:400(size=32)
        *-multimedia
             description: Multimedia audio controller
             product: 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.5
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.5
             version: 02
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=snd_intel8x0 latency=0
             resources: irq:17 ioport:d800(size=256) ioport:d400(size=64) memory:fe77b800-fe77b9ff memory:fe77b400-fe77b4ff
WARNING: output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this program as super-user.
dlx@Minty ~ $

Thanks for views & help.

TNFrank · Post by **TNFrank** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:12 am

I'm running Mint 15 MATE on an older HP nc6400 laptop, Core Duo 1.86GH, 2GB of RAM w/533MHz bus speed, 120GB hard drive and it runs fast as can be. No problems with it crashing or anything. YouTube runs well, heck, anything I want to do runs well. I'd check over your hardware or do a reinstall so you'll start with a clean op system and see if that'll help.

Dyslexic1 · Post by **Dyslexic1** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:36 am

Thanks TNFrank can you play videos on Vimeo? that with HD off

So I'm I going to have to install every three weeks. Chrome get slow when I have seven or eight tabs open.
Anyone else got thoughts?

nunol · Post by **nunol** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:28 am

Probably drivers problems and flash problems but your CPU is slow by today standards.

Use the top command to find out what is using your CPU when the computer feels slow.

MartyMint · Post by **MartyMint** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:30 pm

I'm running MATE on an Acer netbook...

I know I could use a lighter DE, but honestly, I can't say the experience is terrible...It's fairly decent and I prefer MATE.
I tried MATE on an older Dell laptop...sputtered a bit with MATE, then decided to go LXDE...

Dyslexic1 · Post by **Dyslexic1** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:33 am

Thanks both
Going to give a go Xfce as read on here it's lightweight don't know about reinstall MATE as only three weeks down line may have to install again.

daveinuk · Post by **daveinuk** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:41 am

Have you looked in additional drivers to see if you are using an nvidia driver for your card??

Edit: post more detail about your machines spec's and you'll get better suggestions/recommendations - make/model/processor etc.

Dyslexic1 · Post by **Dyslexic1** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:50 am

Found from Google command for Hardware output does that not show all info ?
Here screenshot of System mon.

System Spec.png

Thanks

DisturbedDragon · Post by **DisturbedDragon** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:02 am

You must have a driver issue. I run Mint 15 Mate on my Samsung N150 netbook, since release [Atom n450 single core, 2GB RAM, some crappy intel video chipset]. I can watch fullscreen youtube up to 720p and 720p mkv's. No issues whatsoever.

At this point I recommend reinstalling fresh using Mint with Mate.

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