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Synaptic again

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Linux Mint 17 (MATE 64 bit):
- After the last update synaptic shows the upgradable packages put no entry in dropdown menu to mark them! On the other hand if I try to upgrade with Update Manager nothing happens except that the active windows (of Update manager) close instantly. So the only method remains line comand wich works. Any idea?
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Re: Synaptic again

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Re: Synaptic again

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To turn the cryptic link into clear text:
monsta wrote:Yesterday Clem removed the ability to upgrade packages from Synaptic:
You may find the resulting modified Synaptic software packages here: Qiana - Upstream. Search for "synaptic" in this section. You will find: synaptic 0.81.2-2.
I wonder a bit whether silently crippling Synaptic instead of resolving the found misbehaviour was the only solution? Or was it it just a quick workaround?

Anyway, taking away the ability to select anything for upgrade in Synaptic explains why vortex59 experiences this:
vortex59 wrote:After the last update synaptic shows the upgradable packages put no entry in dropdown menu to mark them!
Yet, is it related to the next phenomenon as well?
vortex59 wrote:On the other hand if I try to upgrade with Update Manager nothing happens except that the active windows (of Update manager) close instantly.
vortex59 wrote:Any idea?
I think the default procedure in such cases might still help reveal the root cause. Please, open aterminal window. Execute these commands and post the complete screen output here:

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inxi -r
sudo apt-get update
Code tags around the screen output would be nice, because they make reading easier.

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Re: Synaptic again

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Aha. I wish I had read about this. I ended up screwing my whole Cinnamon desktop trying to fix Synaptic. I reinstalled and decided to go along with the program, even though I had no clue there was one, and haven't touched Synaptic once. So my Cinnamon is back to perfect, but I kind of miss dear old Synaptic.
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Re: Synaptic again

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Execute these commands and post the complete screen output here:

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mihai@mml ~ $ inxi -r

Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/additional-repositories.list
           deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all
           deb http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/MacMolPlt/debian precise main
           deb-src http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/MacMolPlt/debian precise main
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
           deb http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana main upstream import
           deb http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana main
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main restricted universe multiverse
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
           deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security main restricted universe multiverse
           deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ trusty partner
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-source-repositories.list
           deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana main upstream import
           deb-src http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana main
           deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main restricted universe multiverse
           deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
           deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security main restricted universe multiverse
           deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ trusty partner

mihai@mml ~ $ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for mihai: 
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease
Ign http://archive.canonical.com trusty InRelease                              
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease                         
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release.gpg                            
Hit http://www.duinsoft.nl debs InRelease                                      
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg                               
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty Release                                
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease                       
Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release.gpg [933 B]             
Hit http://www.duinsoft.nl debs/all amd64 Packages                             
Ign http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana InRelease                                 
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana InRelease                              
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release                                   
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner Sources                        
Hit http://www.duinsoft.nl debs/all i386 Packages                              
Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release [58.5 kB]               
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner amd64 Packages                 
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release.gpg [933 B]           
Hit http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner i386 Packages                  
Get:4 http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana Release.gpg [198 B]                     
Get:5 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana Release.gpg [198 B]                  
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release [58.5 kB]             
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Sources                              
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Sources                        
Ign http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise InRelease                               
Get:7 http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana Release [3,144 B]                       
Get:8 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana Release [18.6 kB]                    
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Sources                          
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Sources                        
Ign http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise Release.gpg                             
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main amd64 Packages                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted amd64 Packages                 
Get:9 http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana/main Sources [838 B]                    
Ign http://www.duinsoft.nl debs/all Translation-en_US                          
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe amd64 Packages                   
Ign http://www.duinsoft.nl debs/all Translation-en                             
Ign http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise Release                                 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse amd64 Packages                 
Ign http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner Translation-en_US              
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Sources [17.5 kB]       
Get:11 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/main Sources [26.2 kB]              
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages                        
Get:12 http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana/main amd64 Packages [7,904 B]          
Ign http://archive.canonical.com trusty/partner Translation-en                 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted i386 Packages                  
Ign http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise/main Sources/DiffIndex                  
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe i386 Packages                    
Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Sources [14 B]    
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse i386 Packages                  
Get:14 http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana/main i386 Packages [8,421 B]           
Ign http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex           
Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Sources [4,212 B]   
Get:16 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/upstream Sources [10.0 kB]          
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en                       
Get:17 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Sources [688 B]   
Ign http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex            
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en                 
Get:18 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/import Sources [18.0 kB]            
Get:19 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main amd64 Packages [55.7 kB]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en                 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en                   
Get:20 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Sources [60.0 kB]         
Get:21 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/main amd64 Packages [30.3 kB]       
Get:22 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted amd64 Packages [14 B]
Get:23 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Sources [14 B]      
Get:24 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Sources [30.1 kB]     
Get:25 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Sources [2,228 B]   
Get:26 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe amd64 Packages [17.9 kB]
Get:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages [149 kB]   
Get:28 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [1,157 B]
Get:29 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/upstream amd64 Packages [22.8 kB]   
Get:30 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main i386 Packages [53.1 kB] 
Get:31 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/import amd64 Packages [31.4 kB]     
Get:32 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [14 B]
Get:33 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe amd64 Packages [81.0 kB]
Get:34 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted i386 Packages [14 B]
Get:35 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [7,090 B]
Get:36 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main i386 Packages [145 kB]    
Get:37 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/main i386 Packages [29.7 kB]        
Get:38 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe i386 Packages [17.9 kB]
Get:39 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse i386 Packages [1,392 B]
Get:40 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/upstream i386 Packages [22.8 kB]    
Get:41 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted i386 Packages [14 B]
Ign http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana/main Translation-en_US                    
Get:42 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe i386 Packages [81.4 kB]
Get:43 http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/import i386 Packages [31.2 kB]      
Get:44 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [7,282 B]
Ign http://extra.linuxmint.com qiana/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Translation-en             
Get:45 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en [69.7 kB]  
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Translation-en         
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Translation-en       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-en  
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en
Hit http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise/main Sources                            
Hit http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise/main amd64 Packages                     
Hit http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise/main i386 Packages             
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US           
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en_US     
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en_US     
Ign http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise/main Translation-en_US         
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US       
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en_US            
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US      
Ign http://www.scl.ameslab.gov precise/main Translation-en                     
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en_US      
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-en_US        
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Translation-en_US          
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Translation-en_US    
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Translation-en_US    
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en_US      
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/import Translation-en_US               
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/import Translation-en                  
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/main Translation-en_US                 
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/main Translation-en                    
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/upstream Translation-en_US             
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com qiana/upstream Translation-en                
Fetched 1,184 kB in 9s (127 kB/s)                                              
Reading package lists... Done
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Re: Synaptic again

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Hi, vortex59.

"inxi -r" and "sudo apt-get update" look good. - Hm. Seems as if for a short period of time a mintupdate version may have been distributed, which may cause problems, because there is yet another mintupdate update available by now. - At least someone fixed his minupdate problems by running the update from the commandline once in order to get the latest mintupdate 4.6.6. [1]

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
Perhaps doing so once will fix you mintupdate problem, too.

Cheers,
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Re: Synaptic again

Post by vortex59 »

- Well after the last update (command line) nothing happened with mintupdate (that means you should manual refresh, but when you try to install the window close with the mark blue for upgrade). Today I looked into the main menu and i saw that mint apdate is started by default as simple user (not root). I corrected this (change the command in "gksu mintupdate") and "voila": the mintupdate works as it has to do (automatic refresh un real upgrade).
- Now, should I put RESOLVED for the topic (is not quite the initial topic).

all the best,

Mihai
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Re: Synaptic again

Post by karlchen »

Hello, Mihai.

Good question whether this thread can be considered "[solved]".

Synaptic
The reported Synaptic problem has not been solved at all. All which has been achieved is getting the explanation why Synaptic 0.81.2-x behaves like it does.
Synaptic 0.81.2-x works as re-designed.

mintUpdate
As the mintUpdate behaviour problem on Mint 17 is unrelated to the Synaptic problem, I will split this thread thus creating a new thread about the automatic startup user process mintUpdate in the systray which no longer queries the software repositories without explicit user intervention.
New thread: Mint 17 startup process mintUpdate does not query repositories

Kind regards,
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