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Fixing 18.1 freezes and annoying bugs.[Fixed]

Post by marlenejo » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:59 am

I have a dual boot system with windows 7 and Mint kde 17.3. I decided to make it a three boot system with Mint Cinnamon 18.1. The installation went very well. After using it, it will randomly freeze completely, needing a reboot. Some web research later, disabling NCQ fix that problem (I have a Samsung SSD). Chromium was also freezing the system. Disabling the hardware acceleration fix that. Now it hasn't freeze yet for a while.

I like 18.1 because of its snappiness compared to Kde 17.3 and that newer programs are developed for Ubuntu 16.04 but there are still some issues, beside these above, which prevent me from making it my workhorse.

- Clementine menu corruption, also seen in Simplescreenrecorder and smplayer (with some themes) buttons. (may be related with new 18.1 qt library 4.8.7)
- The application Synapse crash on 18.1
- Steam would not launch without a patched library script. (lib6)
- my Mtp devices are borked on 18.1
- Steam games, while using the same Nvidia driver, run much more smoothly on 17.3.

All this work fine on 17.3 so may be 18.2 is the one to look for.
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Re: Fixing 18.1 freezes and annoying bugs.

Post by Bao2 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:09 pm

I don't have those problems but I have a new one: When I am copying lots of files usually cinnamon crashes and restarts.
I was thinking perhaps nemo is the culprit so I want to install another file manager. I installed dolphin (kde) but this one doesn't show
icons in my linuxmint 18.1 cinnamon.

I remember in other versions when I have similar problems with nemo I could change to dolphin. But today on every distro it seems the rest
of programs don't work anymore. So we are going in a bad direction in my opinion.

Is nemo the only file manager we can run now? It has lots of problems with very big folders with thousands of files or very big transfers, that
does freezes and cinnamon restarts.

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Re: Fixing 18.1 freezes and annoying bugs.

Post by Lemongrass38 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:22 pm

Maybe changing the graphics driver to the proprietary one would work. My father's Mint froze sometimes randomly, but after changing the graphics driver it was good. ;)
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Re: Fixing 18.1 freezes and annoying bugs.

Post by cameraman » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:21 am

I have a similar problem also running 18.1 this has been happening for a week or so
but even just running the opera browser with a few windows open , every 15 min or so
it would just crawl to a slow and for about a minute doing anything is very laggy
even just moving the mouse.

Duel booting with win 10 never, had this problem in win 10, the laptop is about 5 months old
it's got a i7 5600 16 gig Ram and a 512gb SSD.

Had the system monitor open while this was happening, only 10% of the memory was used at the time
and the 4 cores running at 50% highest.

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Re: Fixing 18.1 freezes and annoying bugs.

Post by cameraman » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:39 am

hmmm not to happy with this happand a few times this week, was working fine everything froze
waited 5 min to see if the laptop would start responding but no, had to force it to shut down.

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Re: Fixing 18.1 freezes and annoying bugs.

Post by marlenejo » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:53 pm

Following Lemongrass38 advise, I continue with some testing.

- First, return to the opensource video driver. Re-enable Chromium H/W acceleration. No freeze in Chromium. Continue using the system. No freeze either running 18.1. Don't think the video driver was responsible (?) for the hangups but there have been a couple of updates and a new kernel since then. Not sure. The problem is that driver is terrible if you do gaming on Nvidia. (The Half-life serie works fine though). Not a solution.

- Second, tried out Kernel 4.8 (4.8.0.34). Boot fine and Chromium (with acceleration on) and OS does not hang.

- Third, bypass 18.1 hardware driver suggestion and install the latest Nvidia 375.26 driver from their website with the 4.4 kernel (my card is an old Gt650Ti but supported by that driver also). No problem and all the Steam games humming along fine now. Installation was easier then I though.

- Finally, I decided to go all in and install the Nvidia 375 with the latest 4.8 Kernel. Success, everything run fine and dandy. No freezing. (Always remember to install the desired kernel first and let Nvidia recompile with it during install)

So while Mint is a bit shy on suggesting aggressive updates, it may be in the end quite beneficial. It is easy to test anyway. You do a system image (I use Macrium Reflect), save it somewhere and start testing around. The worst that can happen is that you have to return to your previous OS image in 5 minutes.

While some utilities still do not work or as not been updated (like synapse- replaced by kupfer anyway and clementine) now Linux Mint 18.1 is my new workhorse. Ii is definitely faster then Kde 17.3.

Note: Games now run faster or as fast as on 17.3 (Nvidia 367) and Virtualbox 5.1 run fine also on 18.1. It load my previously created VM on 17.3 with version 5.0.
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Re: Fixing 18.1 freezes and annoying bugs.[Fixed]

Post by marlenejo » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:02 am

SOME REGRESSION

Seems that the Nvidia 375.26 has introduce some regression with the screensaver. Now every time its settings is access and quit, a process with the selected ss is started where one cpu/thread shoot up to 100% and stays there. The same behaviour appears when the screensaver started according to his timer. One or more cpus/threads shoot up to 100% and stick. The process(es) then have to be kill manually.

I disable the screensaver which works but waking up from standby, re-trigger the screensaver again and max some cpus. Really screw up.
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