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Re: Folding@home-Team Linux Mint-76140

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DisturbedDragon,

a 4090, that will be interesting to see.

Best regards Keith
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tinca wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:34 pm DisturbedDragon,

a 4090, that will be interesting to see.

Best regards Keith
Well, it's up and running but the only issue is I had to configure it all through the config.xml. I cannot find the FAHControl or advanced control anywhere and FAH does not even appear in my menu. Web control is there but it's all but useless. Installed with the latest .deb but heck, I haven't used FAH since they used to release .tgz for CLI use only.
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Re: Folding@home-Team Linux Mint-76140

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Hi Jeff13,

The 4080 rig has an AMD Ryzan 5800x CPU which is known for running hot, but it is a decent CPU nevertheless, if you can control the heat. It has 8 cores and 16 threads and it is using 14 threads to fold at the moment, so running pretty well flat out, and so generates a lot of heat. It is cooled by an Arctic Freezer 11 360 AIO cooler. In BIOS the freezers three fans are set to run at maximum.

The 4080 has its fans set at 75% and runs very cool.

I have enclosed two pictures that I have just taken of the power draw and of the folding temperatures. The top two readings are for the CPU, it does not show individual cores like an Intel unit as it is built differently. The third one is obviously the GPU.

Thanks for the stas information, bit of a eye opener. If you want maximum points it seems that there is no alternative but to run a 4080 or a 4090. But if it is costs that are the main concern then it would be wise to look elswhere.

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DisturbedDragon,

I remember that I had some trouble setting up the conventional Folding st Home, so I downloaded the Version 8. This version works withing your web browser (Firefox in my case)

Download the very small version 8 file from their web site, and once you have done that go to this link

https://app.foldingathome.org/

and with luck you should be presented with filling in your details. Once finished press SAVE and your folding should start.

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tinca,

I removed v7 after completing the WU's and installed v8. Configuration is greatly simplified and I'm working on balancing CPU/GPU workloads. Thanks! We will see what happens. This is my main desktop so it's not going to fold 24/7.
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Re: Folding@home-Team Linux Mint-76140

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I see we made the 1st page. The team is at #100 now. Speaking of numbers, I havn't seen any of @disturbedDragon's results. Could we talk you into putting team 76140 in your config?

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Folding is under a different name. Folding under 76140 with passkey.
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DisturbedDragon wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:17 am I can throw my 4090 at it for awhile. It's cooler here in North TX so the added heat won't matter :lol:
Thanks. Maybe you could dig a 30 foot hole and run some geothermal pipe down the hole for cooling. I understand that in North Texas the temperature at 30 feet is about 65 F all year round.

Did you bend your power cables? https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-compone ... installing
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/techn ... very-month

I would understand if you did not want to use the 4090 for folding.

5 hours till we reach 99.

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Professor_Slughorn wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 10:18 am
DisturbedDragon wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:17 am I can throw my 4090 at it for awhile. It's cooler here in North TX so the added heat won't matter :lol:
Thanks. Maybe you could dig a 30 foot hole and run some geothermal pipe down the hole for cooling. I understand that in North Texas the temperature at 30 feet is about 65 F all year round.

Did you bend your power cables? https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-compone ... installing
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/techn ... very-month

I would understand if you did not want to use the 4090 for folding.

5 hours till we reach 99.

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Sitting at 63M after a few days on the 4090 (not 24/7). I won't be doing this all the time but since I have been off and using my main PC intermittently I figures what the heck, let it run. That connector issue was a release issue. Not seen it in some time. Later cards, which I have, came with beefier cables.
We are at 35F right now with a high of 51F. Supposed to freeze a few times this week.
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Nice PC. Lots of storage I see.

Coming to the conclusion that a 4000 series NVIDIA card is the way to go for folding. My two i3 computers use about 400 watts combined for only 450,000 PPD. A single PC with a 4060 will do about 8 or 9 times more PPD for about the same power. Once the heating season is over I will be shutting them down. I also shut down CPU folding on the i3-8100 and the i7-9700F. The i5-12400F will keep CPU folding during the heating season. It is a pretty good CPU efficiency wise.

Noise is still a bit of an issue. I was able to drop the dBA from 55 ish to 45 dBA. Would really like to get sound levels below 40 dBA. That might be wishful thinking on my part.

It is looking like the team will hit 94 within a month. I wonder if we can get to 80 this year?
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Thanks Professor_Slughorn. It was a dream build i said heck with it and built a couple years ago. The case is dead silent. All the panels have sound deadening materials on them.

4090 is an absolute beast. 156,908,831 points in a week, not 24/7 folding.

Edit: GPU issues for a second machine moved to a new thread.
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Well done team. Over 2.1 billion points in December, 2023. Most of the credit goes to the top three. An amazing number of points.

Correction: I meant to say we might make 80 by the end of 2024.
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It's been interesting getting back into folding.The 4090 is getting between 24M and 26M PPD. The 1060 plus 960 machine gets max 1.5M PPD. The 4090 only uses half power and runs far cooler than the others as well.

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DisturbedDragon wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 8:06 am It's been interesting getting back into folding.The 4090 is getting between 24M and 26M PPD. The 1060 plus 960 machine gets max 1.5M PPD. The 4090 only uses half power and runs far cooler than the others as well.
Hello

I was wondering if you had any issues getting the 4090 to work with the 5.15 kernal?

Was also curious what you mean by "Kernel 5.15.x lowlatency"?

Thanks.

On a side note, my numbers will be down for a bit. Stopped folding with the i7/RTX 2070S PC. The noise was too much.
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Professor_Slughorn wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:02 am Hello

I was wondering if you had any issues getting the 4090 to work with the 5.15 kernal?

Was also curious what you mean by "Kernel 5.15.x lowlatency"?

Thanks.

On a side note, my numbers will be down for a bit. Stopped folding with the i7/RTX 2070S PC. The noise was too much.
There were no issues getting my 4090 to run. While folding at 100% usage the GPU fan is only at ~35% and 65C. I don't even hear it running.

I'm running kernel 5.15.0-52-lowlatency on this PC because I deal a lot with real time audio and edit a lot of video, though it also does help with kernel latency across many applications.

Explained straight from Ubuntu:

"The low latency Ubuntu kernel is suitable for low-jitter workloads and industrial embedded applications with latency requirements in the milliseconds' range. Latency in an embedded system refers to the time elapsed when servicing a request, whereas jitter is the variability in the timing of an expected signal.

A program usually executes in User Mode in userland and activates a kernel routine when requesting one of its services. Once the Linux kernel has serviced the request, it resumes execution in the user address space. Linux introduced kernel preemption in v2.5.4, enabling high-priority tasks to preempt running processes and issue system calls asking to switch to the kernel address space. Hence, in a preemptible kernel, a process can preempt an instance of a running program, forcibly interrupting the CPU and performing a context switch. "
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DisturbedDragon wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:14 am
There were no issues getting my 4090 to run. While folding at 100% usage the GPU fan is only at ~35% and 65C. I don't even hear it running.

I'm running kernel 5.15.0-52-lowlatency on this PC because I deal a lot with real time audio and edit a lot of video, though it also does help with kernel latency across many applications.
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Thanks for the information. I am hoping to make a decision on what video card to get in the next few weeks. Waiting for the Nvidia address at CES 2024 later today. Maybe we will see some price drops on the 4060 or 4070.

I did not know a low latency kernel even existed. Learn something new everyday. :D

My knowledge of Linux is kind of like Swiss cheese, full of holes.

We are only about 4 days from crushing Dell Corporation. You would think they would have more than 7 active users and access to some fast hardware..

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And speaking about the CES announcements...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01 ... direction/

The 4070 super will be quite nice if/when it's available at list price.
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Jeff13 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:02 pm And speaking about the CES announcements...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01 ... direction/

The 4070 super will be quite nice if/when it's available at list price.
I would agree. My guess is at least 9 million PPD a day. It should also be decent at 4k gaming.

My hope is that companies drop the price of the plain 4070 to $499 later this month. I would really like to get my folding numbers back up to over 6 Million PPD.
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Well that was strange. My PPD crashed.

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Time Points WUs
01.11, 6am 85,301 2
01.11, 3am 0 0
01.11, 12am 104,850 3
01.10, 9pm 240,100 3
01.10, 6pm 67,168 1
01.10, 3pm 154,746 1
01.10, 12pm 0 0
01.10, 9am 200,000 1
01.10, 6am 36,720 1
01.10, 3am 18,612 1
01.10, 12am 193,746 2
01.09, 9pm 0 0
01.09, 6pm 67,168 1

It appears as if the RTX 3060 stopped folding. The odd thing was that when I checked CPU-X the card was using 170 watts most of the day and last night. I may have accidentally hit pause on the 9th. That really does not explain why the card would continue to use all that power. I am also fairly sure that https://webclient.lar.systems/ was showing folding. Maybe I just had a brain fart. :? Anyway, my numbers are down. Will be watching things a bit closer today.
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Professor_Slughorn wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:18 am It appears as if the RTX 3060 stopped folding. The odd thing was that when I checked CPU-X the card was using 170 watts most of the day and last night. I may have accidentally hit pause on the 9th. That really does not explain why the card would continue to use all that power.
You can give nvtop a try for monitoring your GPU's. It will give you more information and more accurate information on what your GPU's are doing.

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sudo apt install nvtop
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