KDE on future versions of Mint (+20)

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Re: KDE on future versions of Mint (+20)

Post by xenopeek » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:31 pm

Hi grabo. No I didn't write it because at the time it became pertinent to do it, somebody on the forum had already said they had created a script people could use to automatically convert a Linux Mint installation to KDE—and select some customizations—and that seemed to me to be much nicer than what I had planned to do. Time went by but that person never actually shared the script. As KDE users either settled with Cinnamon or moved to a KDE focused distro, when it had become clear the script wasn't going to be shared I didn't think there was still much interest in it.
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Re: KDE on future versions of Mint (+20)

Post by catweazel » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:38 pm

grabro wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:26 pm
Zenopeek

Did you ever write that How TO for installing KDE over xfce?
I would be extremely interested.
viewtopic.php?p=1486597#p1486597

That seems to work.
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Re: KDE on future versions of Mint (+20)

Post by BG405 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:16 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:31 pm
Time went by but that person never actually shared the script.
This is a real shame. I was looking forward to seeing such a script; although I've rebuilt a borked KDE Plasma 4 installation (Mint 17.3) I haven't done much digging into Plasma 5 yet & writing scripts to perform such things is still ahead of me. Although P5 is now my primary choice of desktop environment this is on Manjaro (the D255E in my signature and also a Toshiba N250); however, I intend to keep the "fixed" machines on Mint & I'd much prefer to run KDE as per my original plans.
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Re: KDE on future versions of Mint (+20)

Post by Slarti » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:29 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:31 pm
. . . I didn't think there was still much interest in it.
Hi xenopeek,

For whatever it's worth, I would be very, pleased and grateful if you would do this and I feel certain that I'm far from alone. I've checked back countless times since the release of 19 hoping to find these instructions. I would be happy to add KDE as a login option and not remove anything else if that would be simpler for you to explain and not compromise stability.

It's easy to find instructions online that don't work as promised, such as my attempt last night which yielded a system having blank customization windows for every aspect of Plasma. There are many options for those with more technical knowledge than I possess but two decades of Windows does not prepare one to deal with rolling distros when a problem arises, so that eliminates many choices. In the end, I've tried lots of others and there is nothing to compare with Mint for my taste and situation.

If you're too busy, I understand and no hard feelings. Thanks! :)

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Re: KDE on future versions of Mint (+20)

Post by pbear » Fri May 10, 2019 12:16 am

As Moem said earlier, "Is anyone actually expecting that?"
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Re: KDE on future versions of Mint (+20)

Post by Frankus333 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:43 am

G'day folks

I am another one of the (myriad of) LM users that would love to be able to keep the great stuff from KDE working properly on later versions of LM (19.* +). I am less interested in having the complete KDE DE available (which sounds like some folks think is a risk), but I am very keen to keep some great KDE apps.

The differing suggestions in various threads on how to do this is confusing for someone who is not able to manage the high level system tweaking that would ideally be required to ensure the KDE modifications work properly, including being able to be maintained with updates.

I see that the release notes for LM 19.2 XFCE recommend the addition of three packages (kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins) to help keep KDE apps stable. Is that all that is necessary if it is only specific apps that I want to retain (Okular pdf reader, Dolphin file manager, Simple Scan, maybe GwenView, EDIT: and DigiKam, K3bDisk burner, Spectacle screenshot)?

EDIT: Should the install command for these packages start with sudo (it doesn't in the release notes)?? I installed via Synaptic.

In my LM 19.2 XFCE installation, I also note that there is a setting in Session and Startup > Advanced > Compatibility which allows option to "Launch KDE services on startup". What does this do; does it require additional packages to be installed (or are they already there); and is it necessary/useful if the above three recommended packages are installed?

Finally, I presume that having any KDE stuff on my LM installation would require the addition of the Kubuntu backport PPA mentioned, to ensure any and all KDE packages continue to be updated? Is anything else necessary to ensure reliable and trouble free updating of added KDE stuff?

Any comments would be gratefully appreciated.

Cheers
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Re: KDE on future versions of Mint (+20)

Post by Frankus333 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:20 pm

G’day again folks

Regarding the option of having the KDE desktop installed over another LM installation (in my case XFCE); posters note the caution that this would be unstable, or that one DE would compete with the other and mess things up. This seems to be a disputed claim.

I don’t understand how this could happen if only one DE at a time can be logged into. It seems to me that, as some contributors have noted, it would be possible and safe to have multiple DE options available, and just log into the one you want to use at any given time?

The only way I can see this being a problem is if different DEs mess with settings in the core (Kernal?) packages, either at the time of installation, or during use, or (more likely) during update/upgrade operations on the packages and/or the kernel. Is this what the (potentially) problematic mechanism is?

Also, I notice that in my LM18.3KDE installation update manager that the Kubuntu backport PPA is selected. I can’t remember if that is something I selected in the past, of if this is the default. If the latter, I wonder what else the Mint devs did to make the KDE edition, other than install the Kubuntu desktop and this PPA? If there are other important, non-cosmetic things that were required to create the KDE edition, they would obviously be missing from any attempt to just add KDE (Kubuntu?) desktop and PPA, and remove XFCE desktop. The question is how critical would those omissions be for stability into the future?

In my case I am hoping that by installing only the KDE apps I want as mentioned above, along with the PPA, the possibility for messing things up would be that much less.

Again, any comments most welcome.
Frankus333: LM18.3 KDE 64 bit; HP 15 laptop, 4GB RAM, CPU Celeron dual core N2840 2.5GHz, 500GB HDD (triple boot LM19.2 XFCE, Win 8.1)

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