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Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:45 pm
by Portreve
BG405 wrote:Whilst I agree with your sentiments and would also be very happy to see a switch to Qt I think this is unlikely, considering that the Mint team are moving away from this platform as of Mint 19.x.
I don't disagree with you; indeed, I'm certain you're right.

The reference I was making was to Solus. Ikey has no love for either KDE nor Gnome, and he and his team have been using GTK as their building blocks for Budgie. However, the next major release of the Budgie Desktop is to be Qt-based, but not in any way KDE. My thought is that perhaps Clem could do the same basic kind of thing, and even maybe he and his team may be forced in the same direction, depending on how much effort they have to make just to keep things compatible.

I don't know, and will be the first to admit I could be completely talking out of my bum-hole.

Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 9:47 am
by Lucap
GNOME Is Removing the Ability to Launch Binary Apps from Nautilus

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/nau ... aries-apps
Last year Nautilus lost the ability to show desktop icons — now GNOME developers plan to drop another familiar feature. According to a code commit on Gitlab the famous file manager is set to lose the ability to run binaries and launch apps directly.

Or, to put it another way, you won’t be able to double-click on programs, scripts or apps to launch them using Nautilus.

This change could affect:

Binary .bin and .run files
App Images (.appimage)
Program shortcuts (.desktop)
Scripts (e.g., .sh)

It’s a bit of a head-scratcher; why is GNOME doing this?

There are easier ways to get apps

GNOME developer Carlos Soriano made the commit referenced above.In it he reasons that without a desktop on which to place app shortcuts, binaries and the like the need to launch apps using Nautilus is ‘not as useful’ as it once was. After all, the GNOME Shell desktop comes with a full-screen app launcher by default, and a slate of third-party app menu extensions are available.
Just gets worse.

Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:05 am
by sphyrth
Now, I understand that they're stripping it down for convinience's sake (because some distro devs can opt to put features back in anyway), but this is just getting silly.

Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:44 am
by Lucap
Now over 500 user comments at the bottom the link. :)

Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:02 pm
by BG405
Portreve wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:45 pm However, the next major release of the Budgie Desktop is to be Qt-based, but not in any way KDE. My thought is that perhaps Clem could do the same basic kind of thing, and even maybe he and his team may be forced in the same direction, depending on how much effort they have to make just to keep things compatible.
This might well become the case, although I don't know how much current Nautilus code is integrated into Nemo, if any:
Lucap wrote: Tue May 15, 2018 9:47 am GNOME Is Removing the Ability to Launch Binary Apps from Nautilus

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/nau ... aries-apps
.. so hopefully it won't add extra workload for the Mint team, or introduce compatibility problems. Will need to research this. :)

Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:15 pm
by MintBean
Gnome's become an absolute joke. How something with so little (and rapidly decreasing) functionality can remain the most CPU and memory greedy of the mainstream desktops amazes me.

Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:46 am
by Lucap
At this rate we'll just be left with a mouse arrow to move about.

Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:50 am
by catweazel
Lucap wrote: Fri May 18, 2018 12:46 am At this rate we'll just be left with a mouse arrow to move about.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cg ... 2017-14604

See the description by Andrej Nemec. Surprisingly, they left archive decompression and the terminal in place. Surely, to fix this problem properly requires at least removal of the terminal :mrgreen:
GNOME Devs seem to have a weekly conference of what they can remove from Nautilus. Come Ubuntu 18.10, it'll just be a blank box... Then they'll remove that!
User: Casey https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/nau ... aries-apps

Re: GNOME 3.28 Removes Option to Put Icons on the Desktop

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 4:07 am
by Lucap
I'm guessing Gnome 4.0 will just boot straight into a web browser. :P

*edit*
MintBean wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 5:15 pm Gnome's become an absolute joke. How something with so little (and rapidly decreasing) functionality can remain the most CPU and memory greedy of the mainstream desktops amazes me.
It's been playing quit nicely since he finally patched the 10 year old memory leak.