Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

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Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by DaveJones » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:11 pm

Hi all,

I updated my Nvidia binary driver from the PPA to 390.25 and after a reboot, I couldn't even boot into Cinnamon. All I was getting was black screen and a mouse cursor that I could move around but not much else. After getting into shell, I ran nvidia-xconfig and re-generate xorg.conf file and then managed to get Cinnamon desktop. However, everything was slow and my graphics card's fan (GFX 1070) was spinning much louder than usual. When I played a video inside of Chromium, the screen was tearing like mad. Scrolling was incredibly choppy. It's as if I didn't have graphics hardware acceleration. And when I opened Cinnamon's main menu while the video was playing, the video would become choppy.

Only when I downgraded to 387-series driver did things become normal again.

Has anyone experienced issues with 390 driver or is it just me?

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Re: Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by godzilla » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:55 am

it runs perfectly on my maxwell card gtx 980m
i cant speak for pascal since there are no way for me to test it unless dell release their proprietary gpubox driver for linux
using kernel 4.13.0-32
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Re: Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by halogenlight » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:56 am

I'm getting the same issue but with an Nvidia GTX 1050 and with nvidia-384.111 drivers that I tried to install that was recommended by the driver manager. 'm running on a Skylake LGA1151 build with a Gigabyte B150M-HD3 mobo and an ASUS 2GB 1050 (non-Ti).

I'm typing this from my second installation attempt at trying linux mint and I don't know what else to do next. Honestly terrified to do anything at this point. I don't even get a cursor on the screen. I get nothing, nada, only a reboot does anything and because Linux Mint has decided in their infinite wisdom to hide the grub bootloader I cannot even get that up, I hold down shift and nothing happens either, I had to use boot-repair just to get grub to load up and that done nothing at all for this problem. I even set nosetmode and removed the grub hide inside of the boot repair tool. A complete reinstall and choosing not to install the nvidia driver via driver manager is the only way I'm able to talk to you right now.

Also why does Linux Mint or Linux in general always try to push the highest resolution possible? I'm using a television for a screen which supports 4K at 30Hz but not 4K at 60Hz and under windows the graphics card supports 4K 60Hz but the monitor does not. Linux Mint by default (with the nouveau driver) sets it for 3840x2160 @ 24Hz. is linux forcing my display to 4K at 60Hz with the nvidia driver? because that won't work. Is that why I cannot see anything at all? I'm going to have to find a way to get it to do 1920x1080 @ 60Hz, I've managed to set the resolution to 1920x1080 but its stuck at 24Hz which looks like the mouse cursor is having a seizure. So eventually I want it to be able to be set for 1920x1080 at 60Hz.

Do I download the linux nvidia driver binary from the nvidia.com website and install those or what? Even if I did that and it sucessfully installed, if it doesn't do 1920x1080 @ 60Hz or 3840x2160 at 30Hz (at most) I won't be able to see a damn thing and won't be able to continue to use Linux mint unless I pull out an old monitor and "repair" the system that way. Which sounds like a massive pain to me. I shouldn't have to do that.

Is thats whats going on? with a refresh rate that isn't supported!?

This is my first time trying out Linux Mint and I've been trying out Linux distributions every now and again eversince Debian Potato, I'm not a dummie but this is honestly furiating.

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Re: Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by Hoser Rob » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:57 am

halogenlight wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:56 am
I'm getting the same issue but with an Nvidia GTX 1050 and with nvidia-384.111 drivers that I tried to install that was recommended by the driver manager. 'm running on a Skylake LGA1151 build with a Gigabyte B150M-HD3 mobo and an ASUS 2GB 1050 (non-Ti).

I'm typing this from my second installation attempt at trying linux mint and I don't know what else to do next. Honestly terrified to do anything at this point. I don't even get a cursor on the screen. I get nothing, nada, only a reboot does anything and because Linux Mint has decided in their infinite wisdom to hide the grub bootloader I cannot even get that up, I hold down shift and nothing happens either, I had to use boot-repair just to get grub to load up and that done nothing at all for this problem. I even set nosetmode and removed the grub hide inside of the boot repair tool. A complete reinstall and choosing not to install the nvidia driver via driver manager is the only way I'm able to talk to you right now.

Also why does Linux Mint or Linux in general always try to push the highest resolution possible? I'm using a television for a screen which supports 4K at 30Hz but not 4K at 60Hz and under windows the graphics card supports 4K 60Hz but the monitor does not. Linux Mint by default (with the nouveau driver) sets it for 3840x2160 @ 24Hz. is linux forcing my display to 4K at 60Hz with the nvidia driver? because that won't work. Is that why I cannot see anything at all? I'm going to have to find a way to get it to do 1920x1080 @ 60Hz, I've managed to set the resolution to 1920x1080 but its stuck at 24Hz which looks like the mouse cursor is having a seizure. So eventually I want it to be able to be set for 1920x1080 at 60Hz.

Do I download the linux nvidia driver binary from the nvidia.com website and install those or what? Even if I did that and it sucessfully installed, if it doesn't do 1920x1080 @ 60Hz or 3840x2160 at 30Hz (at most) I won't be able to see a damn thing and won't be able to continue to use Linux mint unless I pull out an old monitor and "repair" the system that way. Which sounds like a massive pain to me. I shouldn't have to do that.

Is thats whats going on? with a refresh rate that isn't supported!?

This is my first time trying out Linux Mint and I've been trying out Linux distributions every now and again eversince Debian Potato, I'm not a dummie but this is honestly furiating.
Start your own thread. Hijackers are extremely annoying.

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Re: Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by Hoser Rob » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:59 am

DaveJones wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:11 pm
Hi all,

I updated my Nvidia binary driver from the PPA to 390.25 and after a reboot, I couldn't even boot into Cinnamon. All I was getting was black screen and a mouse cursor that I could move around but not much else. After getting into shell, I ran nvidia-xconfig and re-generate xorg.conf file and then managed to get Cinnamon desktop. However, everything was slow and my graphics card's fan (GFX 1070) was spinning much louder than usual. When I played a video inside of Chromium, the screen was tearing like mad. Scrolling was incredibly choppy. It's as if I didn't have graphics hardware acceleration. And when I opened Cinnamon's main menu while the video was playing, the video would become choppy.

Only when I downgraded to 387-series driver did things become normal again.

Has anyone experienced issues with 390 driver or is it just me?
Not nearly enough useful info there. Copy/paste this to the terminal and copy/paste the text output here:

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inxi -Fxz

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Re: Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by DaveJones » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:54 pm

Hoser Rob wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:59 am
Not nearly enough useful info there. Copy/paste this to the terminal and copy/paste the text output here:

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inxi -Fxz
Hi Rob! Here it is.

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 $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: desktop Kernel: 4.13.0-32-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.7 (Gtk 3.18.9) Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P8H77-V v: Rev X.0x Bios: American Megatrends v: 1307 date: 03/17/2015
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i5-3470 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 25599
           clock speeds: max: 3600 MHz 1: 3546 MHz 2: 3594 MHz 3: 3597 MHz 4: 3541 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA Device 1c15 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau,intel)
           Resolution: 3840x2160@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 1070 8GB/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 387.34 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA Device 10f1 driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 Sound: ALSA v: k4.10.0-42-generic
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Ralink MT7601U Wireless Adapter driver: mt7601u usb-ID: 002-004
           IF: wlx00367621774e state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2250.5GB (85.7% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB temp: 0C
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST2000NC000 size: 2000.4GB temp: 33C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 901G used: 853G (100%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb5
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 16.86GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb6
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 0.0:42C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0 fan-1: 740 fan-2: 0
Info:      Processes: 236 Uptime: 50 min Memory: 2743.3/15990.9MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (zsh 5.1.1) inxi: 2.2.35 
Drivers. Only 387 and 384 work perfectly. If I pick 390, nothing works well.
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I did some searching and found a bunch of complaints about 390 on Nvidia's forum:


[Linux Mint 18.3] Numerous Performance & Rendering Issues on 390.25


High CPU usage on 390.25 ubuntu 16.04 kernel 4.13 Openbox GTX 970 with Displayport only connection

black screen at desktop login [GTX 750 Ti] [390.25]

390.25 on 4.15 kernel: Everything is faster when HW acceleration is disabled

And from this forum, I found a massive thread on Arch Linux forums about 390.25:

Terrible performance regression with Nvidia 390.25 driver

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Re: Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by yian_dev88 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:08 pm

I posted a warning about this a couple of days ago but unless it were pinned and read or developers somehow block the 390.25 driver you would have upgraded anyway from PPA and then come to forums.
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=264164

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Re: Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by carum carvi » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:45 pm

Maybe try searching the Vlc VideoLan Forum page for suggestions. I was searching for all kinds of difficult options on the linuxmint forum and in the end I just had to change the video output in my Vlc settings. And gone was the screen tearing and choppiness.

I have a Nvidia Geoforce graphics card, but never chose to use it in LinuxMint. Better performance without it. I have got smooth video now with LinuxMint Cinnamon 18.3. on local videos and on youtube videos.

I just had to disable the Hardware Accelerated Video Output (Overlay) and I did this too in Firefox (Preferences-General-Performance)
That is one setting found in the Video settings of Vlc and one setting in Firefox.
Takes 2 minutes to try it out. Be aware that for changes to take place in Vlc Mediaplayer you must save changes first and close program second. Then start Vlc up again to test if the change has had ANY effect. Otherwise Vlc doesnt change its settings.

Another advice I read on VideoLan Forum was to change the video output to ANY other than the current one.
Maybe just experiment, or try VideoLan Forum.
https://forum.videolan.org/

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Re: Nvidia 390.25 completely breaks Cinnamon (LM18.3)

Post by DaveJones » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:19 am

If you disable HW acceleration, your CPU will be doing everything and your battery life will be halved.

Just don't run 390.25 driver. It's an absolute mess.

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