After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

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After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by Duke49th » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:03 am

Not urgent problem which is why I ask only now. But it bothers me as I still use the one or another program in Windows...well...I want to lol.

I installed it that way:

C: SSD with 2+ partitions. One for Windows 10 and later on installed 18.3 core/swap on that SSD in a separate partition. Home went into another harddrives partition.

I followed a tutorial where on the screenshots it looks like it suggests that I use Windows Boot partition for the bootmanager. You know, the dropdown option below the partition window "Device for boot loader installation"

Everything works fine. But. When I chose Windows 10 from bootloader (GRUB?) it just went black for a second and brings me back into the bootloader. No error messages etc.

Any ideas?

Btw boot is from BIOS/Legacy, not UEFI.

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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by michael louwe » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:53 am

@ Duke49th, .......
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For Legacy BIOS dual-boot install, the "Device for boot loader installation" should be the internal hard-drive or /sda, ie not the Windows Boot Manager or Partition = you likely need to repair Windows Boot Manager and reinstall Grub at the same time = quite complicated. Hopefully, someone more experienced will come along and help you.

If I were in your position, I would reinstall both OS, ie Windows, then LM, after backing up my data.

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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by Duke49th » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:05 pm

Oh crap.

It's Win 10, I have no DVD Rom. Maybe I can do it from an USB Stick. I got the Key from early beta release back that time inlcuding a microsoft account. But even if I would have a DVD, I have no DVD Rom on my desktop. :(

Thanks for the heads up. Then I don't know why tutorials don't show correct screenshots. This was clearly missleading then. :(

On my laptop I let Mint just install it automatically beside Win 7. But on the desktop I've chosen "something else" and followed the tutorial to not mess up something. Well...didn't work out.
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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by pedr324 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:33 pm

I have also faced the same issue after the installation, Is not be able to boot after the install, even, I already update my system, then the process was not working also. if there is any other or instant solution available help me on.


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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by administrollaattori » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:52 pm

Duke49th wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:03 am

I followed a tutorial where on the screenshots it looks like it suggests that I use Windows Boot partition for the bootmanager.
Btw boot is from BIOS/Legacy, not UEFI.
With Legacy BIOS, it is a mistake to install grub into Windows partition. The next command tells where grub is installed.

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sudo fdisk -l 2>/dev/null | egrep "Disk /|/dev/" | sed "s#^/dev/#Part /dev/#" | awk '{print $2}' | sed 's/://' | xargs -n1 -iX sudo sh -c "dd if=X count=1 2>/dev/null | grep GRUB > /dev/null && echo Grub found: X || echo no Grub: X"
If Grub is installed into Windows partition, you need to fix Windows boot using Windows DVD using command

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bootrec /fixboot
DO NOT run

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bootrec /fixmbr
https://neosmart.net/wiki/bootrec/

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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by michael louwe » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:46 pm

@ Duke49th, .......
Duke49th wrote:.
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If you need to reinstall Grub ... https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/grub

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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by Duke49th » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:47 am

michael louwe wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:46 pm
@ Duke49th, .......
Duke49th wrote:.
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If you need to reinstall Grub ... https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/grub
HI. Thanks. As bootrec /fixboot gives me an acces denied (I have BIOS boot, not EFI..maybe thats why) I guess I have to fix it the hard way and fix grub afterwards.

I'll report back later.
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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by lsemmens » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:57 am

Windoze 10 can be installed from a flash drive, it was how I did it back in the day. IIRC M$ has free utility to create a bootable Windoze stick. My process would be to install Windoze first, let it "customize" itself into updatedness (probably take you a couple of days for that :(). Once it is stable and working, installing Mint from a live stick which should take about 20minutes including all updates!
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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by michael louwe » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:40 am

@ Duke49th, .......
Duke49th wrote:As bootrec /fixboot gives me an acces denied (I have BIOS boot, not EFI..maybe thats why).
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Maybe, you just need to "Run as Administrator". ... https://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-run ... -windows-7

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Re: After install 18.3 can't boot Win10

Post by Duke49th » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:12 am

lsemmens wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:57 am
Windoze 10 can be installed from a flash drive, it was how I did it back in the day. IIRC M$ has free utility to create a bootable Windoze stick. My process would be to install Windoze first, let it "customize" itself into updatedness (probably take you a couple of days for that :(). Once it is stable and working, installing Mint from a live stick which should take about 20minutes including all updates!
When I want to make a bootable Win 10 USB Stick in Mint, I found out that I already have one :D I just forgot that. I hope I don't need to install it again. I wouldn't do that at the moment. I am lucky and have fast internet and a SSD, but still this isn't what I want.

@Michael Louwe: As I use the console from the Win Setup, I can't run anything as Admin. But it's ok. I am at work now but later I'll just try it the other way described in the link above.
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