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Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by clem » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:52 am

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by Benoît » Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:57 am

Question about the future kernel used for 19.1? Would it still be the 4.15?
I'm asking because I need the 4.17 for my touchpad to properly function. As for now it works only with limited function (no hard click only finger touch) and depending on which update of the 4.15. Like the 32 is ok but not the 33.. (i2c_hid i2c-SYNA3602)
I know it can work using ukuu, but I'm no fan of this solution.
See here

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199821
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1728244

And sorry for posting here, I tried 3 times on the blog with no success.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by smurphos » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:17 am

Judging from previous release cycles and the Ubuntu kernel schedule 19.1 will ship with the 4.15 kernel. However I'd expect by the time of release in both 19 and 19.1 whatever kernel Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic) ships with will be available as an optional HWE kernel in Update Manager. At time of writing Cosmic is on 4.17.

See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by gm10 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:20 am

Benoît wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:57 am
Question about the future kernel used for 19.1? Would it still be the 4.15?
I'm asking because I need the 4.17 for my touchpad to properly function. As for now it works only with limited function (no hard click only finger touch) and depending on which update of the 4.15. Like the 32 is ok but not the 33.. (i2c_hid i2c-SYNA3602)
I know it can work using ukuu, but I'm no fan of this solution.
You don't need Mint 19.1 for that. Mint doesn't do its own kernels.

4.17 and 4.18 kernel series are currently available in the repositories for upcoming Ubuntu 18.10. I suggest you use those rather than the raw mainline kernels that ukuu offers. Personally I'm using the 4.18 series. Make a new thread if you need help with that.

Once Ubuntu 18.10 is released next month, the kernel from that release will be made available to Ubuntu 18.04 = Mint 19.x in the regular repositories as well, that's what Ubuntu calls the Hardware Enablement (HWE) stack. In case of doubt just wait for that.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by ArcticBirdman » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:29 am

Will 19.1 support UEFI for ASUS motherboards as was not able to upgrade from 18.3 to 19.0 due issues with grub. I am using two different ASUS motherboards, both working properly with 18.3. I tried upgrading as well as clean installs but both resulted in neither computer being able to boot. First ASUS motherboard is a M4A79T Deluxe using an AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Processor 3.31 GHz and my main computer uses an ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 with and AMD FX-9590 Eight Core Processor 4.72 GHz. I am using several OS by switching out the boot drive. Besides using Mint 18.3, I also use Windows 7 and 10, both 64 bit.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by srq2625 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:41 am

ArcticBirdman wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:29 am
Will 19.1 support UEFI for ASUS motherboards as was not able to upgrade from 18.3 to 19.0 due issues with grub. I am using two different ASUS motherboards, both working properly with 18.3. I tried upgrading as well as clean installs but both resulted in neither computer being able to boot. First ASUS motherboard is a M4A79T Deluxe using an AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Processor 3.31 GHz and my main computer uses an ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 with and AMD FX-9590 Eight Core Processor 4.72 GHz. I am using several OS by switching out the boot drive. Besides using Mint 18.3, I also use Windows 7 and 10, both 64 bit.
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I have a copy of the Sabertooth and have had no problems installing LM 19.0 in UEFI mode and in the old BIOS mode. No problems at all. I have, however, ensured that the firmware for the board is the latest available.

Maybe you might want to start another thread for this problem???

By the way, welcome to the forum - I just realized the above was your first post!

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by catweazel » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:54 am

Hicinko wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:47 am
Isn't it so that Asus motherboards are better performance wise.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by Arch_Enemy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:12 am

clem wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:52 am
https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3642
Tessa...my daughter's name... :D
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When the system fails, reinstall and use the exact same username and all your 'stuff' comes back to you.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by mattlach » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:12 pm

Any word on what version of Mesa we might get?

Mint 19 is currently on 18.0. Those of us with Vega based APU's would be overjoyed if it would ship with 18.2+ :p
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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by gm10 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:49 pm

mattlach wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:12 pm
Any word on what version of Mesa we might get?

Mint 19 is currently on 18.0. Those of us with Vega based APU's would be overjoyed if it would ship with 18.2+ :p
Ubuntu 18.10 has Mesa 18.2, you'll be able to get it via their usual HWE upgrade path.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by mattlach » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:14 pm

gm10 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:49 pm
Ubuntu 18.10 has Mesa 18.2, you'll be able to get it via their usual HWE upgrade path.
Thank you. I was trying to figure that out, but it turns out the only way I know how to check what version of a package is in a repository is with the apt-cache search, followed by the apt-cache policy commands, but since I don't have an 18.10 install, I couldn't do it :p

I did not know that HEW enablement also covered non-kernel packages. I've only ever used it to get newer kernels, when needed.
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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by smurphos » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:39 pm

mattlach wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:14 pm
Thank you. I was trying to figure that out, but it turns out the only way I know how to check what version of a package is in a repository is with the apt-cache search, followed by the apt-cache policy commands, but since I don't have an 18.10 install, I couldn't do it :p

I did not know that HEW enablement also covered non-kernel packages. I've only ever used it to get newer kernels, when needed.
You don't need to have an ubuntu-based distro installed to search what's in the repositories - it's all online - search in https://packages.ubuntu.com/

Picking a random mesa component - https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/libglx-mesa0 ......

Launchpad also has package entries for all releases - it's not as easily searchable - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic/+pa ... bglx-mesa0

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by mattlach » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:16 pm

gm10 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:49 pm
mattlach wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:12 pm
Any word on what version of Mesa we might get?

Mint 19 is currently on 18.0. Those of us with Vega based APU's would be overjoyed if it would ship with 18.2+ :p
Ubuntu 18.10 has Mesa 18.2, you'll be able to get it via their usual HWE upgrade path.
Great. When this happens (looks like February at this point) what is the best way to accomplish this?

"apt-cache search hwe", and install them all? :p
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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by gm10 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:39 pm

mattlach wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:16 pm
Great. When this happens (looks like February at this point) what is the best way to accomplish this?

"apt-cache search hwe", and install them all? :p
Nope, unless you're planning on re-installing. ;) I'm sure you'll be able to find the instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack as they become available.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by Linux-Bill » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:40 am

Regarding 19.1:
Will Wine be returned to its useful inclusion as found in 18.3?
Will the changed icons be continued or will there be a welcome reversion to those formally used?
Will the nag screen/message regarding backups during updates continue?

Thank you.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by gm10 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:54 am

Linux-Bill wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:40 am
Will Wine be returned to its useful inclusion as found in 18.3?
Will the changed icons be continued or will there be a welcome reversion to those formally used?
Will the nag screen/message regarding backups during updates continue?
1. Nothing wrong with Wine, but we've been over this. Also it's an upstream package, so the Mint team won't touch it.
2. No reversal.
3. Yes, until you disable it in the Preferences.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by smurphos » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:26 am

Just add the 18.3 default icon-set and theme is still there and it's a quick job to select in in your Desktop Environments themes /appearance settings app.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by Linux-Bill » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:29 am

Thank you Smurphos - most appreciated.

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by MtnDewManiac » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:12 am

But no appreciation towards gm10 for answering your three questions, lol?

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Re: Linux Mint 19.1 codenamed ‘Tessa’

Post by Linux-Bill » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:19 am

That would be correct!

I have since discovered how to work around many of the shortcomings of 19. By digging into places where the average user should never have to go, I was able to correct, among other problems, the faulty dual-boot Grub and missing libpng12-0 files. I have also successfully installed a proper and complete Wine. I am now using 19 everyday all day.

It is bad enough that 19 was released with some user defying failures (Note: they are and will be corrected). However, it is absolutely shameful that the responses to my earlier queries (and those queries of others) did not result in actual assistance of real value - rather than Kool Aid drinking, down the nose, dismissive comments. It is such unhelpful responses that turn potential Linux Mint users away.

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