[SOLVED] Question about Using Recoll

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[SOLVED] Question about Using Recoll

Post by asandl » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:42 pm

Hi all -- I've been messing around with Recoll and have enabled indexing of a NAS device. It works fine, but the problem is that the full text indexing takes forever. I'd really rather just index the file names and not the full text. And then of course I would use only the 'file name' search query. Has anyone been able to do that? I get the feeling it's not an option and that I should just use 'locate' from the Linux terminal. Does anyone have any thoughts or input on the fastest way to index a fairly large external drive?

Thanks much.
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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by rickNS » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:54 pm

You mention " 'locate' " in your post,
so I'll say that 'locate', and 'find' are so good that a GUI is hardly necessary? I mean you do have to type a <search-term> so a GUI only save a few key strokes. NOT-WITHSTANDING, maybe you use/need it very often .? If that' the case I could see using something like recoll.
Besides, "I think" most DEs filemanagers do have a search function by default?
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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by catweazel » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:01 pm

asandl wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:42 pm
Does anyone have any thoughts or input on the fastest way to index a fairly large external drive?
sudo apt install catfish

It should do exactly what you need.
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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by all41 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:05 pm

catweazel wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:01 pm
asandl wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:42 pm
Does anyone have any thoughts or input on the fastest way to index a fairly large external drive?
sudo apt install catfish

It should do exactly what you need.
What bugs me regarding catfish is by default it always reverts to the user home directory.
It would be great if it remembered the last used search location.
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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by catweazel » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:33 pm

all41 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:05 pm
catweazel wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:01 pm
asandl wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:42 pm
Does anyone have any thoughts or input on the fastest way to index a fairly large external drive?
sudo apt install catfish

It should do exactly what you need.
What bugs me regarding catfish is by default it always reverts to the user home directory.
It would be great if it remembered the last used search location.
I wasn't aware of that, but I see what you mean. Still, it's very handy. It works nicely on KDE where the dolphin file manager search seems to always read from a cache unless you restart dolphin, which is a pain when you're developing an app and need to find a file you just created that unexpectedly went somewhere other than where you thought it went :)
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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by all41 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:38 pm

catweazel wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:33 pm
need to find a file you just created that unexpectedly went somewhere other than where you thought it went :)
find and locate to the rescue.
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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by smurphos » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:50 pm

Searchmonkey is another alternative simple GUI search - it opens on the last searched directory - apt install searchmonkey.

If you are using Cinnamon on 19 - Nemo's 3.8.x native filename search function is now reasonably speedy (it wasn't stellar prior to 3.8).

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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by catweazel » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:47 am

all41 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:38 pm
catweazel wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:33 pm
need to find a file you just created that unexpectedly went somewhere other than where you thought it went :)
find and locate to the rescue.
Actually, a correction is required. Catfish integrated itself into the dolphin file manager. When I select catfish from within dolphin, it opens in the current directory. Neat.
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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by asandl » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:05 am

Thanks very much RickNS, Catweazel, All41, and Smurphos for your responses. I have some work to do! Will work on these options and report back on what I found.

I had been using Catfish previously for local searching and it works fine and is very speedy. I'm totally happy with it -- exactly what I wanted. However, when I execute the search on the external NAS hard drive I hear that hard drive spinning for quite a while with no search results (at least 60 seconds). Before I executed the search I click on 'update search index' and it takes a few seconds and says it was successful. Is the search index some sort of database containing file names? If so, shouldn't the search be querying the database rather than searching on the external hard drive? I may be doing something wrong so it's worth exploring a little more.

Thanks again all of you and I will get back with my findings.

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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by asandl » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:22 pm

Hi all -- just an update on my latest findings. So far I have tried Catfish, Recoll, Angry Search, SearchMonkey, and FSearch. And the winner is . . .FSearch! It's the fastest and as the author of this says he patterned it after the Everything Search Engine (www.voidtools.com) which works only with Windows. But Fsearch performs just about as good as Everything does. It has the option to automatically update the database and also allows opening files from the search results.

I did sort of cheat the system by giving up on my NAS setup with an external 1TB hard drive. I just connected it locally to this laptop running Mint. Anyway, hope this helps someone else. Will mark this as SOLVED. Thanks to all who provided input.

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Re: Question about Using Recoll

Post by smurphos » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:31 pm

asandl wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:22 pm
And the winner is . . .FSearch!
This one? - https://github.com/cboxdoerfer/fsearch

https://launchpad.net/~christian-boxdoe ... arch-daily

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Re: [SOLVED] Question about Using Recoll

Post by asandl » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:39 pm

That's the one! I installed using instructions here: https://www.fossmint.com/fsearch-search ... for-linux/

Two lines to install:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:christian-boxdoerfer/fsearch-daily
sudo apt update && sudo apt install fsearch-trunk

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Re: [SOLVED] Question about Using Recoll

Post by smurphos » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:23 am

Looks nice, but appears to only support file name search. I need search by contents of text files so i'll stick with searchmonkey and a slightly slower search.

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Re: [SOLVED] Question about Using Recoll

Post by asandl » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:40 am

Hi Smurphos -- yes you're right. In my case, that's what I wanted -- file name search only. On the Windows side, the Everything Search Engine was so extremely fast that over the years I learned to just rely on file name search. I also learned to use longer file names to describe what the file contents are in greater detail. In the rare case where I wanted full text search, I would use 'Agent Ransack' (another Windows freeware program).

But everyone's situation is different so I completely understand the need for full text.

Hope this is helpful!

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Re: [SOLVED] Question about Using Recoll

Post by all41 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:56 am

HI asandl,

fsearch--good find. Thanks.

fsearch builds it's db fast, and fast on the search.
I will continue to use recoll when I need textual search, and fsearch for filename searches.
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