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For old PowerPC Mac, what Linux distro can I use? [SOLVED]

Post by cecilieaux » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:43 am

I'm looking to install Linux on an old iBook G4, which runs on PowerPC insofar as I can tell. In the discussion at viewtopic.php?f=90&t=51684&p=297315&hil ... G4#p297315 I found LXDE recommended.

The only Mint LXDE I can find to download is version 12 from 2012. Is this still supported?

Should I go for Mint XFCE instead? (The computer can meet system requirements, barely.)

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Is LXDE Mint 12 the latest?

Post by Pjotr » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:30 am

Traditionally, a good Samaritan on the German Linux Mint forum provides an LXDE respin for the latest Mint. For 19.1:
https://www.linuxmintusers.de/index.php?topic=52646.0

Direct link for 32-bit:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/linuxm ... 190103.iso

Direct link for 64-bit:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/linuxm ... 190103.iso

The only drawback is, that you have to shift it from German to English (or to Dutch, in my case). At least, that's what you always had to do for previous editions of that LXDE respin.
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Re: FOR OLD MAC: Is LXDE Mint 12 the latest?

Post by xenopeek » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:37 am

To be clear, Linux Mint does not—nor has ever—run on PowerPC architecture. It runs on x86 or x86-64 architecture; on CPUs from Intel or AMD (or if you're a masochist, VIA). You won't be able to use Linux Mint on an iBook G4.

The iBook G4 has a 32-bit PowerPC G4 CPU. I think Ubuntu 14.04 was the last release to support 32-bit PowerPC architecture, and that's reaching end of life next month.

The best option to try is probably Lubuntu. They made a 16.04.5 release still supporting 32-bit PowerPC architecture. See their downloads page: https://lubuntu.me/downloads/. (Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE.) 16.04 is supported till April 2021. Head on over to the Lubuntu support channels to find help with installing on PowerPC as I think that can be tricky.
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Re: FOR OLD MAC: Is LXDE Mint 12 the latest?

Post by catweazel » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:41 am

xenopeek wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:37 am
(or if you're a masochist, VIA).
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Re: FOR OLD MAC: Is LXDE Mint 12 the latest?

Post by Pjotr » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:35 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:37 am
PowerPC architecture.
Oops. Overlooked that. :P
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Re: For old PowerPC Mac, what Linux distro can I use?

Post by Portreve » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:20 pm

cecilieaux wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:43 am
I'm looking to install Linux on an old iBook G4, which runs on PowerPC insofar as I can tell. In the discussion at viewtopic.php?f=90&t=51684&p=297315&hil ... G4#p297315 I found LXDE recommended.

The only Mint LXDE I can find to download is version 12 from 2012. Is this still supported?

Should I go for Mint XFCE instead? (The computer can meet system requirements, barely.)

Thanks for your help.
Well, the thing is at this point the GNU+Linux community has essentially walked away from PPC.

Debian has walked away from 32 bit PPC. Debian supports "everything". When they walk away from something, you know it's dead. :shock: :lol:

I honestly haven't seen an "up to date" release of any GNU+Linux distro for that architecture in some time, though to be honest, I also haven't actively looked in a while, either.

I guess the latest is, in fact, the Lubuntu page that xenopeek suggested. 16.04.5 LTS is likely the last release for it.
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Re: FOR OLD MAC: Is LXDE Mint 12 the latest?

Post by cecilieaux » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:07 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:37 am
The best option to try is probably Lubuntu. They made a 16.04.5 release still supporting 32-bit PowerPC architecture. See their downloads page: https://lubuntu.me/downloads/. (Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE.) 16.04 is supported till April 2021.
Thank you, Xenopeek, and thank all of you! I think this one is at last solved.

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Re: For old PowerPC Mac, what Linux distro can I use? [SOLVED]

Post by linuxopjemac » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:27 am

I am working on a new version of MintPPC again. It will be based on Debian sid with a minty LXDE desktop. Please be patient.

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Re: FOR OLD MAC: Is LXDE Mint 12 the latest?

Post by Portreve » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:37 pm

cecilieaux wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:07 pm
xenopeek wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:37 am
The best option to try is probably Lubuntu. They made a 16.04.5 release still supporting 32-bit PowerPC architecture. See their downloads page: https://lubuntu.me/downloads/. (Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE.) 16.04 is supported till April 2021.
Thank you, Xenopeek, and thank all of you! I think this one is at last solved.

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Unless you are specifically interested in getting a PPC-based Mac up and running with GNU+Linux (in which case, do what you will) why not look at buying a fairly inexpensive, and insanely more powerful modern laptop? For example, Egghead and I think TigerDirect (and very probably others) sell off-lease corporate laptops, any of which would run circles around a G4 iBook or, for that matter, any G3, G4, or G5-based Macintosh.
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Re: For old PowerPC Mac, what Linux distro can I use? [SOLVED]

Post by absque fenestris » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:57 pm

https://lowendmac.com/2018/installing-l ... erpc-macs/


The last PowerMacs G4 were from 2004 - that's 15 years ago now. Pretty old for a computer...

Apart from that - 10 years ago I experimented with a dual processor PowerMac G4 (2 x 1GHz, 1.5 GB RAM). Debian was the only reliable Linux OS for this PPC G4, and the whole thing wasn't particularly gorgeous - it ran...
In contrast to the 10 year old Acer Atom netbook which really benefits from Linux - this was almost unusable under Windows 7 and is amazing under Linux (Mint MATE).
Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia (Mate) 32-bit - Acer D250 Netbook (Intel Atom N270, 2 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD)
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