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And now for something completely different!

Post by lsemmens » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:22 pm

Built in an age where people took care, and pride in their workmanship. The Peacock Clock is a masterpiece! Sadly, I suspect that we are unlikely to ever see the like of this craftsmanship again.
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Post by Portreve » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:43 am

I've never heard of this before. That's really cool!
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Post by 151tom » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:39 pm

That is really neat and really amazing what people were able to create in those times.

The art and talent of real craftsmanship does seem to be a thing of the past these days.

I have a few old wind up mantle clocks and a couple of really old grandfather clocks which I inherited.


Thanks for sharing. :)

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Post by all41 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm

I so agree. Wow--science and art combined, we don't seem to do that nowadays.
Makes me think-- why do we dismiss the science of previous generations?
Why do we dismiss the science of previous civilizations?
Do we even realize what we may have have lost?
What about the Antikythera (machine, device, mechanism)?
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Post by carum carvi » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:17 am

The title of this post immediately refreshed my memory about another bird from the past:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZw35VUBdzo
Silly, but so enjoyable silly.

To go back to the topic of craftsmanship: 3d printers are most likely to destroy the last craftsmen on earth. More basic skilled sort of craftsmen still can be found in large numbers though in the third world countries nowadays, because labour is cheap over there. Simple profit motives are/were the biggest drive behind building machines in our history. When a machine does it cheaper, craftsmen are no longer needed. Anyone here still remember the seventies / eighties when we talked about the dangers automation and computers posed to manual labour?

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Post by Portreve » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:05 am

I'm too young to remember such conversations myself at the time, though of course I'm also certain those conversations have been going on for a very long time. For example, look at the Luddite movements of the late 1700s and early 1800s.

Personally, I'm much more worried about the cumulative effects of intellectual laziness and uncuriousness, because that is what allows for most of the decline we see every day.
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Post by Pjotr » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:38 am

all41 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm
I so agree. Wow--science and art combined, we don't seem to do that nowadays.
Makes me think-- why do we dismiss the science of previous generations?
Why do we dismiss the science of previous civilizations?
Do we even realize what we may have have lost?
Yes, extraordinary.... The beauty, the workmanship, and the costs.

The accompanying manual for piecing it together, was apparently of lesser quality: according to the video it took the Russians more than a decade. :lol:
all41 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm
What about the Antikythera (machine, device, mechanism)?
The amount of genius in the tiny ancient Greek population was astounding.... Staggering, even. Perhaps only equalled afterwards by the Jews and their incredible amount of Nobel prizes.

Imagine where we would be now, if the invention of the steam engine in the 1st century A.D. by the Greek scholar Heron of Alexandria, would have triggered the industrial revolution a millennium and a half sooner?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Alexandria

It's difficult not to mourn the disastrous collapse of the Roman Empire (in which collapse, incidentally, my forefathers played a sinister and decisive role). That plunged Europe into the Dark Ages, and effectively killed off science for more than a thousand years.
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Post by RollyShed » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:25 am

However all is not lost, the garden shed or the local shed where innovation and creativity lives on. What about knocking up one of these to fill in the day?
https://vimeo.com/157743578

On the other hand, just have a drink and forget about it... Music Is the Food of Soul, or maybe its a good drink....
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Post by all41 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:19 am

Pjotr wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:38 am
all41 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm
I so agree. Wow--science and art combined, we don't seem to do that nowadays.
Makes me think-- why do we dismiss the science of previous generations?
Why do we dismiss the science of previous civilizations?
Do we even realize what we may have have lost?
Yes, extraordinary.... The beauty, the workmanship, and the costs.

The accompanying manual for piecing it together, was apparently of lesser quality: according to the video it took the Russians more than a decade. :lol:
all41 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm
What about the Antikythera (machine, device, mechanism)?
The amount of genius in the tiny ancient Greek population was astounding.... Staggering, even. Perhaps only equalled afterwards by the Jews and their incredible amount of Nobel prizes.

Imagine where we would be now, if the invention of the steam engine in the 1st century A.D. by the Greek scholar Heron of Alexandria, would have triggered the industrial revolution a millennium and a half sooner?
.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Alexandria

It's difficult not to mourn the disastrous collapse of the Roman Empire (in which collapse, incidentally, my forefathers played a sinister and decisive role). That plunged Europe into the Dark Ages, and effectively killed off science for more than a thousand years.
Yes, Mind boggling
Even the loss of knowledge contained within the libraries of Alexandria, Ephesus, and others were major setbacks for civilization.
The Greeks were very mental.

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