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Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:22 am

Hi, I have recently updated from Mate 17.3 Rosa to Cinnamon 19.1 and the results are not good. The system freezes at least 10 - 15 times a day - it would be more if I used it more - requiring a switch-off at the mains.This renders the operating system practically un-usable. Is this a known problem with Cinnamon 19.1 and is there anything I can do to sort it out? I have tried different options from the Grub menu but they all seem to have the same problem. The only O.S. that still works o.k. is the Mate 17.3 Rosa.

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by catweazel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:35 am

Cherokee wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:22 am
The only O.S. that still works o.k. is the Mate 17.3 Rosa.
Please post the output of this terminal command:

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inxi -Fxz
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Pierre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:38 am

did you from Mate 17.3 Rosa to Cinnamon 19.1 direct ? somehow ?

or, did you perform an Clean Installation of that LM19.1 ?
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:01 am

Hope I've done this correctly. Here is the output you requested.

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<pre><font color="#729FCF"><b>System:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Host:</b></font> peter-WC873AA-ABU-p6300uk <font color="#729FCF"><b>Kernel:</b></font> 4.15.0-58-generic x86_64 <font color="#729FCF"><b>bits:</b></font> 64 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>compiler:</b></font> gcc <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 7.4.0 <font color="#729FCF"><b>Desktop:</b></font> Cinnamon 4.0.10 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Distro:</b></font> Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa <font color="#729FCF"><b>base:</b></font> Ubuntu 18.04 bionic 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Machine:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Type:</b></font> Desktop <font color="#729FCF"><b>System:</b></font> HP-Pavilion <font color="#729FCF"><b>product:</b></font> WC873AA-ABU p6300uk <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> N/A 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>serial:</b></font> &lt;filter&gt; 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Mobo:</b></font> PEGATRON <font color="#729FCF"><b>model:</b></font> Narra6 <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 6.01 <font color="#729FCF"><b>serial:</b></font> &lt;filter&gt; 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>BIOS:</b></font> American Megatrends <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 5.19 <font color="#729FCF"><b>date:</b></font> 02/10/2010 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>CPU:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Topology:</b></font> Dual Core <font color="#729FCF"><b>model:</b></font> AMD Athlon II X2 215 <font color="#729FCF"><b>bits:</b></font> 64 <font color="#729FCF"><b>type:</b></font> MCP 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>arch:</b></font> K10 <font color="#729FCF"><b>rev:</b></font> 2 <font color="#729FCF"><b>L2 cache:</b></font> 1024 KiB 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>flags:</b></font> lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm <font color="#729FCF"><b>bogomips:</b></font> 10850 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Speed:</b></font> 800 MHz <font color="#729FCF"><b>min/max:</b></font> 800/2700 MHz <font color="#729FCF"><b>Core speeds (MHz):</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>1:</b></font> 800 <font color="#729FCF"><b>2:</b></font> 800 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Graphics:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Device-1:</b></font> NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] <font color="#729FCF"><b>vendor:</b></font> Hewlett-Packard 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>driver:</b></font> nouveau <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> kernel <font color="#729FCF"><b>bus ID:</b></font> 00:0d.0 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Display:</b></font> x11 <font color="#729FCF"><b>server:</b></font> X.Org 1.19.6 <font color="#729FCF"><b>driver:</b></font> nouveau 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>unloaded:</b></font> fbdev,modesetting,vesa <font color="#729FCF"><b>resolution:</b></font> 1600x900~60Hz 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>OpenGL:</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>renderer:</b></font> NV4C <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 2.1 Mesa 19.0.8 <font color="#729FCF"><b>direct render:</b></font> Yes 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Audio:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Device-1:</b></font> NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio <font color="#729FCF"><b>vendor:</b></font> Hewlett-Packard 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>driver:</b></font> snd_hda_intel <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> kernel <font color="#729FCF"><b>bus ID:</b></font> 00:05.0 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Sound Server:</b></font> ALSA <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> k4.15.0-58-generic 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Network:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Device-1:</b></font> NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet <font color="#729FCF"><b>vendor:</b></font> Hewlett-Packard 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>type:</b></font> network bridge <font color="#729FCF"><b>driver:</b></font> forcedeth <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> kernel <font color="#729FCF"><b>port:</b></font> e480 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>bus ID:</b></font> 00:07.0 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>IF:</b></font> enp0s7 <font color="#729FCF"><b>state:</b></font> up <font color="#729FCF"><b>speed:</b></font> 100 Mbps <font color="#729FCF"><b>duplex:</b></font> full <font color="#729FCF"><b>mac:</b></font> &lt;filter&gt; 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Drives:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Local Storage:</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>total:</b></font> 465.76 GiB <font color="#729FCF"><b>used:</b></font> 17.70 GiB (3.8%) 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>ID-1:</b></font> /dev/sda <font color="#729FCF"><b>vendor:</b></font> Seagate <font color="#729FCF"><b>model:</b></font> ST3500418AS <font color="#729FCF"><b>size:</b></font> 465.76 GiB 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Partition:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>ID-1:</b></font> / <font color="#729FCF"><b>size:</b></font> 72.58 GiB <font color="#729FCF"><b>used:</b></font> 17.70 GiB (24.4%) <font color="#729FCF"><b>fs:</b></font> ext4 <font color="#729FCF"><b>dev:</b></font> /dev/sda7 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Sensors:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>System Temperatures:</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>cpu:</b></font> 40.5 C <font color="#729FCF"><b>mobo:</b></font> N/A 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Fan Speeds (RPM):</b></font> N/A 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Info:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Processes:</b></font> 165 <font color="#729FCF"><b>Uptime:</b></font> 9m <font color="#729FCF"><b>Memory:</b></font> 2.68 GiB <font color="#729FCF"><b>used:</b></font> 887.4 MiB (32.3%) 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Init:</b></font> systemd <font color="#729FCF"><b>runlevel:</b></font> 5 <font color="#729FCF"><b>Compilers:</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>gcc:</b></font> 7.4.0 <font color="#729FCF"><b>Shell:</b></font> bash <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 4.4.20 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>inxi:</b></font> 3.0.27 
</pre>

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:07 am

Pierre wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:38 am
did you from Mate 17.3 Rosa to Cinnamon 19.1 direct ? somehow ?

or, did you perform an Clean Installation of that LM19.1 ?
I think I performed a clean installation. I have the disk (I burned the ISO to a DVD) if that means a 'clean' installation.

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:10 am

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catweazel wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:35 am
Cherokee wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:22 am
The only O.S. that still works o.k. is the Mate 17.3 Rosa.
Please post the output of this terminal command:

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inxi -Fxz
Enclose the results between [ⅽode] and [/ⅽode] code markers by selecting </> from the mini toolbar above the textbox where you type your reply. Note that it's a capital F in that command, followed by lower case xz. You can copy the text from the terminal screen by selecting it then right-clicking.

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                   <pre><font color="#729FCF"><b>System:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Host:</b></font> peter-WC873AA-ABU-p6300uk <font color="#729FCF"><b>Kernel:</b></font> 4.15.0-58-generic x86_64 <font color="#729FCF"><b>bits:</b></font> 64 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>compiler:</b></font> gcc <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 7.4.0 <font color="#729FCF"><b>Desktop:</b></font> Cinnamon 4.0.10 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Distro:</b></font> Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa <font color="#729FCF"><b>base:</b></font> Ubuntu 18.04 bionic 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Machine:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Type:</b></font> Desktop <font color="#729FCF"><b>System:</b></font> HP-Pavilion <font color="#729FCF"><b>product:</b></font> WC873AA-ABU p6300uk <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> N/A 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>serial:</b></font> &lt;filter&gt; 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Mobo:</b></font> PEGATRON <font color="#729FCF"><b>model:</b></font> Narra6 <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 6.01 <font color="#729FCF"><b>serial:</b></font> &lt;filter&gt; 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>BIOS:</b></font> American Megatrends <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 5.19 <font color="#729FCF"><b>date:</b></font> 02/10/2010 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>CPU:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Topology:</b></font> Dual Core <font color="#729FCF"><b>model:</b></font> AMD Athlon II X2 215 <font color="#729FCF"><b>bits:</b></font> 64 <font color="#729FCF"><b>type:</b></font> MCP 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>arch:</b></font> K10 <font color="#729FCF"><b>rev:</b></font> 2 <font color="#729FCF"><b>L2 cache:</b></font> 1024 KiB 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>flags:</b></font> lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm <font color="#729FCF"><b>bogomips:</b></font> 10850 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Speed:</b></font> 800 MHz <font color="#729FCF"><b>min/max:</b></font> 800/2700 MHz <font color="#729FCF"><b>Core speeds (MHz):</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>1:</b></font> 800 <font color="#729FCF"><b>2:</b></font> 800 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Graphics:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Device-1:</b></font> NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] <font color="#729FCF"><b>vendor:</b></font> Hewlett-Packard 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>driver:</b></font> nouveau <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> kernel <font color="#729FCF"><b>bus ID:</b></font> 00:0d.0 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Display:</b></font> x11 <font color="#729FCF"><b>server:</b></font> X.Org 1.19.6 <font color="#729FCF"><b>driver:</b></font> nouveau 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>unloaded:</b></font> fbdev,modesetting,vesa <font color="#729FCF"><b>resolution:</b></font> 1600x900~60Hz 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>OpenGL:</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>renderer:</b></font> NV4C <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 2.1 Mesa 19.0.8 <font color="#729FCF"><b>direct render:</b></font> Yes 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Audio:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Device-1:</b></font> NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio <font color="#729FCF"><b>vendor:</b></font> Hewlett-Packard 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>driver:</b></font> snd_hda_intel <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> kernel <font color="#729FCF"><b>bus ID:</b></font> 00:05.0 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Sound Server:</b></font> ALSA <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> k4.15.0-58-generic 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Network:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Device-1:</b></font> NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet <font color="#729FCF"><b>vendor:</b></font> Hewlett-Packard 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>type:</b></font> network bridge <font color="#729FCF"><b>driver:</b></font> forcedeth <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> kernel <font color="#729FCF"><b>port:</b></font> e480 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>bus ID:</b></font> 00:07.0 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>IF:</b></font> enp0s7 <font color="#729FCF"><b>state:</b></font> up <font color="#729FCF"><b>speed:</b></font> 100 Mbps <font color="#729FCF"><b>duplex:</b></font> full <font color="#729FCF"><b>mac:</b></font> &lt;filter&gt; 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Drives:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Local Storage:</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>total:</b></font> 465.76 GiB <font color="#729FCF"><b>used:</b></font> 17.70 GiB (3.8%) 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>ID-1:</b></font> /dev/sda <font color="#729FCF"><b>vendor:</b></font> Seagate <font color="#729FCF"><b>model:</b></font> ST3500418AS <font color="#729FCF"><b>size:</b></font> 465.76 GiB 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Partition:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>ID-1:</b></font> / <font color="#729FCF"><b>size:</b></font> 72.58 GiB <font color="#729FCF"><b>used:</b></font> 17.70 GiB (24.4%) <font color="#729FCF"><b>fs:</b></font> ext4 <font color="#729FCF"><b>dev:</b></font> /dev/sda7 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Sensors:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>System Temperatures:</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>cpu:</b></font> 40.5 C <font color="#729FCF"><b>mobo:</b></font> N/A 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Fan Speeds (RPM):</b></font> N/A 
<font color="#729FCF"><b>Info:</b></font>
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Processes:</b></font> 165 <font color="#729FCF"><b>Uptime:</b></font> 9m <font color="#729FCF"><b>Memory:</b></font> 2.68 GiB <font color="#729FCF"><b>used:</b></font> 887.4 MiB (32.3%) 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>Init:</b></font> systemd <font color="#729FCF"><b>runlevel:</b></font> 5 <font color="#729FCF"><b>Compilers:</b></font> <font color="#729FCF"><b>gcc:</b></font> 7.4.0 <font color="#729FCF"><b>Shell:</b></font> bash <font color="#729FCF"><b>v:</b></font> 4.4.20 
  <font color="#729FCF"><b>inxi:</b></font> 3.0.27 
</pre>
Thanks Catweazel, hope this is right.

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Pierre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:10 am

Nope - - can you Type this into Terminal inxi -Fxz
and just copy the result of that, in-place of what you have above . . . .

ie: once you've typed that & got some result - - use the Edit - Select All // Edit - Copy
& then paste that from Computer Memory into your forum message reply text.
- - all using that Terminal screen area.
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:08 am

Pierre wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:10 am
Nope - - can you Type this into Terminal inxi -Fxz
and just copy the result of that, in-place of what you have above . . . .

ie: once you've typed that & got some result - - use the Edit - Select All // Edit - Copy
& then paste that from Computer Memory into your forum message reply text.
- - all using that Terminal screen area.
peter@peter-WC873AA-ABU-p6300uk:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
Host: peter-WC873AA-ABU-p6300uk Kernel: 4.15.0-58-generic x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 7.4.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.0.10
Distro: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: WC873AA-ABU p6300uk v: N/A
serial: <filter>
Mobo: PEGATRON model: Narra6 v: 6.01 serial: <filter>
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 5.19 date: 02/10/2010
CPU:
Topology: Dual Core model: AMD Athlon II X2 215 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: K10 rev: 2 L2 cache: 1024 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm bogomips: 10849
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/2700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 00:0d.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nouveau
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1600x900~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NV4C v: 2.1 Mesa 19.0.8 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:05.0
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.15.0-58-generic
Network:
Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard
type: network bridge driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: e480
bus ID: 00:07.0
IF: enp0s7 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 17.70 GiB (3.8%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size: 465.76 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 72.58 GiB used: 17.70 GiB (24.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 45.5 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 173 Uptime: 3m Memory: 2.68 GiB used: 902.3 MiB (32.8%)
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.4.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.20
inxi: 3.0.27
peter@peter-WC873AA-ABU-p6300uk:~$

Thanks Pierre, hope this is right now.

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:12 am

Cherokee wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:08 am
Pierre wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:10 am
Nope - - can you Type this into Terminal inxi -Fxz
and just copy the result of that, in-place of what you have above . . . .

ie: once you've typed that & got some result - - use the Edit - Select All // Edit - Copy
& then paste that from Computer Memory into your forum message reply text.
- - all using that Terminal screen area.
peter@peter-WC873AA-ABU-p6300uk:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
Host: peter-WC873AA-ABU-p6300uk Kernel: 4.15.0-58-generic x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 7.4.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.0.10
Distro: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: WC873AA-ABU p6300uk v: N/A
serial: <filter>
Mobo: PEGATRON model: Narra6 v: 6.01 serial: <filter>
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 5.19 date: 02/10/2010
CPU:
Topology: Dual Core model: AMD Athlon II X2 215 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: K10 rev: 2 L2 cache: 1024 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm bogomips: 10849
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/2700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 00:0d.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nouveau
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1600x900~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NV4C v: 2.1 Mesa 19.0.8 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:05.0
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.15.0-58-generic
Network:
Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard
type: network bridge driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: e480
bus ID: 00:07.0
IF: enp0s7 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 17.70 GiB (3.8%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size: 465.76 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 72.58 GiB used: 17.70 GiB (24.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 45.5 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 173 Uptime: 3m Memory: 2.68 GiB used: 902.3 MiB (32.8%)
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.4.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.20
inxi: 3.0.27
peter@peter-WC873AA-ABU-p6300uk:~$

Thanks Pierre, hope this is right now.
PS It took two attempts to complete the above as the system 'froze' again during the operation
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by JoeFootball » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:28 am

Cherokee wrote: CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 215 ... Memory: 2.68 GiB
With that, I think you might find the LM Xfce to provide superior performance that LM Cinnamon.

EDIT: Either the new LM 19.2 Xfce (supported until April 2023), or the even lighter LM 18.3 Xfce (supported until April 2021).

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Pierre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:00 am

that move of Mate 17.3 Rosa to Cinnamon 19.1 probably wasn't a good move,
as the Cinnamon Desktop is more resource intensive that the Mate Desktop is.

so, you could get away with installing the Mate Desktop, for the current LM19.1 system.
- - you can use Package Manager aka synaptic - - to install that Mate Desktop.
search for "mint-meta" in the synaptic search area & then select the 'Mint-Meta-Mate' set of packages,
& R/click 'Mark for Installation & then click on 'Apply' to Install the Mate Desktop.

Finally Log-Out & then on the Log-In screen, in the Top Right Corner, click on that Icon to select the Mate Desktop,
and then type your User Password, as normal.

then test out the Mate Desktop, to see if that freezes, or not.
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:18 am

Pierre wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:00 am
that move of Mate 17.3 Rosa to Cinnamon 19.1 probably wasn't a good move,
as the Cinnamon Desktop is more resource intensive that the Mate Desktop is.

so, you could get away with installing the Mate Desktop, for the current LM19.1 system.
- - you can use Package Manager aka synaptic - - to install that Mate Desktop.
search for "mint-meta" in the synaptic search area & then select the 'Mint-Meta-Mate' set of packages,
& R/click 'Mark for Installation & then click on 'Apply' to Install the Mate Desktop.

Finally Log-Out & then on the Log-In screen, in the Top Right Corner, click on that Icon to select the Mate Desktop,
and then type your User Password, as normal.

then test out the Mate Desktop, to see if that freezes, or not.
Thanks Pierre, I'll try that. If it doesn't work I'll go back to Rosa!

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Pierre » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:19 am

you shouldn't need to go back to LM17x - - just download the Mate // XFCE version of the current LM19x series.
& then redo the Installation - again.
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Sgthawker » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:11 am

I would also query if you performed a reformat (erase drive) and reinstall or used the existing /home. If you used the existing /home it includes settings for mate as well as your data. Installing cinnamon using an existing /home with settings for mate can cause corruption to your settings and give you trouble. Just my two cents.
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:40 am

Sgthawker wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:11 am
I would also query if you performed a reformat (erase drive) and reinstall or used the existing /home. If you used the existing /home it includes settings for mate as well as your data. Installing cinnamon using an existing /home with settings for mate can cause corruption to your settings and give you trouble. Just my two cents.
Thanks for your response. No I didn't reformat the drive. I have a dual boot setup with Win 7. I am trying Pierre's solution at the moment but that is not working. In fact to send this to you I have had to use Rosa since none of my Bookmarks are working.

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Sgthawker » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:44 am

So my next question is: did you create a new partition for 19.1 as you can still boot into 17.3?

I would further ask: did you verify the iso?
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:55 am

Sgthawker wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:44 am
So my next question is: did you create a new partition for 19.1 as you can still boot into 17.3?

I would further ask: did you verify the iso?
No, I'm pretty sure I didn't create a new partition for 19.1. I basically followed the instructions that came down with the software, and yes, I did verify/check the ISO

Thanks for your help here.

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Sgthawker » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:02 pm

Okay, verifying the iso is a great move. Well done there!

How about when you boot the DVD, running the last item "check the integrity of the medium"? (to ensure the burning went appropriately).

Did you have a separate /home that you share between your 17.3 and 19.1 installs?

I actually create a separate /data partition that I symlink to each install so I can share data among many distros. I have had up to 9 on one laptop in the past.

You are welcome for my attempts at aiding you.
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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:20 pm

Sgthawker wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:02 pm
Okay, verifying the iso is a great move. Well done there!

How about when you boot the DVD, running the last item "check the integrity of the medium"? (to ensure the burning went appropriately).

Did you have a separate /home that you share between your 17.3 and 19.1 installs?

I actually create a separate /data partition that I symlink to each install so I can share data among many distros. I have had up to 9 on one laptop in the past.

You are welcome for my attempts at aiding you.
Sgthawker, I can't say with absolute certainty that the disk burnt correctly but (from memory) I am pretty sure everything is o.k. Certainly the ISO was checked with md5 sum and the disk itself was new.

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Re: Entire system freeze.

Post by Cherokee » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:04 am

Pierre wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:19 am
you shouldn't need to go back to LM17x - - just download the Mate // XFCE version of the current LM19x series.
& then redo the Installation - again.
Pierre,
Using Timeshift I have now gone back to LM Rosa and everything seems to be o.k.
Later today I will try for XFCE to see if that works.
I must say Timeshift extremely good.

Thanks for your interest and help.

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