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Is older simply better? A story under the influence of a certain beverage...

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Yes, yes, we all have a drink sometimes and once I was pretty intoxicated and I accidentally BAKED my 10 year old external harddisc in my microwave. How could anyone in their right mind put a harddisc in their microwave? I dit it once. And it SURVIVED. Honestly. It survived a 220 Celsius (equivalent Fahrenheit pizza temperature).

How could I have ever been so stupid to put my harddisc into my microwave? First of all, I was extremely busy with MANY tasks. I was reorganising my entire storage room. I had many things in my hands simultaneously. At ONE certain moment I had my external harddisc in my hands, with lots of other things on my mind as well. The first thought in my mind was NOT to forget WHERE I stored my external harddisc, because it was valuable. Since I use my microwave regularly and I was standing in front of my microwave at that very moment I though it would be a GOOD idea to TEMPORARILY put my external harddisc into my microwave so I would not forget where I put it.

HOLD ON, Hold on. Dont be judgemental right away. Remember I was under the influence of a particular beverage, with a certain amount of alcohol involved AND I was in a hurry. NOT a good combination.

Anyways, in the end I literally / physically BAKED my Samsung external harddisc for 10 minutes at 220 degrees Celsius (Fahrenheit Pizza temperature) BUT it SURVIVED.




NOW COMES THE GOOD PART:

After my external harddisc was baked at pizza oven temperatures I ran an error test. It worked perfectly.

I also ran an error test on some other (newer, NON baked) harddiscs and they had MORE errors, much more errors than my oven baked external Samsung harddisc.

That Samsung external harddisc was over 10 years old and BAKED at 220 degrees Celsisus, Despite that, it was still (according to error tests) more reliable than the newest NON baked harddiscs.

Is older really bettrer when it comes to harddiscs?

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carum carvi wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:49 am
... Is older really bettrer when it comes to harddiscs?
No, you were just one lucky SOB that time. Now BACK UP that drive, you can't expect it to keep working for long after that abuse.

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Not necessarily so, It sounds like you were blimmin lucky!!!! Hard disks these days also have a much higher data density so a minor fluctuation of read write in a newer disk might produce and error whereas the older disk has the data stored in a larger area, so to speak. Yes, we have all done stupid things under the influence, fortunately the only thing I hurt was me pride.
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lsemmens wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:34 am
Hard disks these days also have a much higher data density so a minor fluctuation of read write in a newer disk might produce and error whereas the older disk has the data stored in a larger area, so to speak.
Ahah, that's a good counter argument for NOT using error tests at all then? Because if these new harddiscs (because of their physical design) do show more errors, it's not wise / sensible to compare them with much older harddiscs which have a different design?

My BAKED harddisc is still working perfectly though. I am not trashing it :)

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Hi carum carvi, nice that you are back in the forums.

Metal in the microwave? That doesn't work at all ... Sparking and things like that. Short research on the Internet:

https://gizmodo.com/what-actually-happe ... 569906393

As far as I understand, your hard drive largely reflected the microwaves and was not heated to pizza temperature. However, your experiment is not necessarily recommended for repetition...
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Actually, I'd suggest that the main damage to a microwaved drive would be the electronics. Given the spitz and sparx generated by metal in a microwave. Electronic fuses (i.e. transistors, chips etc) generally do not cope well with spitz and sparx.
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I think I still have a very, very old 80 MB IBM SCSI * lying around. Should I try my cooking skills? The baking time would of course have to be adjusted according to the age of the cooking stuff.


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absque fenestris wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:03 am
* 80 MB (MiBi ...) is not a typo
My very first hard drive was a SCSI-interfaced 5¼" Seagate 80 MB hard drive. It was loud, but it worked well and it was so cool to be able to warehouse all my data and programs on one drive.

I have to admit, though, that I've never tried microwaving a hard drive. I'd tend to think the metal casing would effectively shield the drive platters.
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Should we test it?
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carum carvi wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:49 am
a particular beverage, with a certain amount of alcohol involved
Sounds like good stuff. What was it? :mrgreen:
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If carum carvi reveals the secret, an inexplicable worldwide microwave extinction will probably have to be reported.

...what then should be related to the readership of this forum and the Mint users in general.
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So, I'm assuming you installed a pizza in your computer. How did that work? Does plain cheese give better speed than a meat lovers special?

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old_noob wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:53 am
So, I'm assuming you installed a pizza in your computer. How did that work? Does plain cheese give better speed than a meat lovers special?
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