Thinkpad T60 - the end is nigh? (won't boot/lockscreen loop)

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Thinkpad T60 - the end is nigh? (won't boot/lockscreen loop)

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Hi, I hope this is the right forum for this.

First off: Linux Mint xfce Tricia 19.3
(currently running off the bootable USB)
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System:
  Host: mint Kernel: 5.0.0-32-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 7.4.0 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.22.30 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 
  dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia 
  base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 1951FEG v: ThinkPad T60 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 1951FEG serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO 
  v: 79ETE3WW (2.23 ) date: 09/12/2008 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 T5600 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Core Merom rev: 6 L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 7315 
  Speed: 1829 MHz min/max: 1000/1833 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1817 2: 1797 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics 
  vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad R60/T60/X60 series driver: i915 v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:27a2 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1024x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GM v: 1.4 Mesa 19.0.8 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad R60/T60/X60 series driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:27d8 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.0.0-32-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82573L Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T60 
  driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 2000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 8086:109a 
  IF: ens2 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network driver: iwl3945 
  v: in-tree:s port: 2000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 8086:4227 
  IF: wls3 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 243.3 MiB (0.0%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Crucial model: CT250MX500SSD1 size: 232.89 GiB 
  speed: 1.5 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 020 temp: 40 C scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB model: N/A size: 7.50 GiB serial: <filter> 
  rev: 5.00 scheme: MBR 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EARS-00Y5B1 
  size: 930.86 GiB serial: <filter> rev: 2003 scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 1.46 GiB used: 243.3 MiB (16.3%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: 32.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2980 
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  1: deb cdrom:[Linux Mint 19.3 _Tricia_ - Release amd64 20191213]/ bionic contrib main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list 
  1: deb http://packages.linuxmint.com tricia main upstream import backport #id:linuxmint_main
  2: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic main restricted universe multiverse
  3: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates main restricted universe multiverse
  4: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports main restricted universe multiverse
  5: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bionic-security main restricted universe multiverse
  6: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ bionic partner
Info:
  Processes: 177 Uptime: 3h 00m Memory: 2.92 GiB used: 1.84 GiB (63.1%) 
  Init: systemd v: 237 runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.4.0 alt: 7 Shell: bash 
  v: 4.4.20 running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.0.32 
So I have a Thinkpad T60, I love it, but have only recently been learning how to treat it right. And I might have learned too late..

Of course, it gets very hot, and it's been doing that for a long time. I recently opened it up and cleaned it out, it feels much cooler to the touch. I have a replacement heatsink and thermal pads and paste ready to go, but I wonder if it's too late.

A couple of times I've accidentally left my laptop on for hours, like the last time before bed I clicked shut down and then went to sleep, but it never fully shut down, so when I woke up in the morning it was whirring hot on a blank screen. I had to pull the plug, let it cool down, then boot again. The other time I think I just forgot to turn it off when I was out for the day and when I came back it was boiling... and frozen.

So both times when I booted up again I got as far as the log in screen, logged in, and it looped back to the log in screen. As a side note I actually had a similar issue when I installed Tricia*, which I solved by switching the desktop manager to the most lightweight one (don't ask me which). Anyway, the last time this happened I just formatted and reinstalled Mint. No problems. When it happened again on Sunday I formatted and reinstalled it yesterday. Now when I boot it gets stuck on the green spinny Mint logo. I've tried this when the laptop is nice and cool with the same result. It's got me thinking that it's time to buy a new laptop. But, as it still works perfectly on the bootable USB, I thought let me ask the good people on the Mint forums first.

So, what do you think? Time to send my beloved T60 to the museum? Or is there hope yet?

Jugular

*see here: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=318797&p=1822053#p1822053

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Re: Thinkpad T60 - the end is nigh? (won't boot/lockscreen loop)

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UPDATE

I just accidentally booted normally and it worked!

I'm just trying to get a sense of what might be going wrong here. Is my computer permanently damaged from overheating? Or might I solve these issues by installing a new heatsink and putting in more effective thermal paste and pads? Or maybe it's nothing to do with overheating at all?

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Re: Thinkpad T60 - the end is nigh? (won't boot/lockscreen loop)

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Maybe, got a T60, booted it the other day, first time in well over a year. Still runs fine (LM19.0 mate). If you do replace I'd suggest a T430, if you don't like the keyboard, a T410 or T420.
Homebrew i5-8400+GTX1080 Cinnamon 19.0, 3 x Thinkpad T430 Cinnamon 19.0, i7-3632 , i5-3320, i5-3210, Thinkpad T60 19.0 Mate

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Re: Thinkpad T60 - the end is nigh? (won't boot/lockscreen loop)

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Thanks for the upgrade suggestions, that'll probably be me next thread!

I definitely believe the T60 has the powers to outlive the human race, but I think I ran mine too hot for too long before learning how to treat it right. Especially with this summer of Zoom calls.

Alright so this morning I tried to boot it again and it got stuck on the green disc again.

So the issue is that

a) it doesn't always shut down properly
b) when I run it for too long it gets stuck on a lockscreen loop
c) it often doesn't boot again, getting stuck on the green disc.

Am I in the right forum? It seems like a hardware issue right?

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Re: Thinkpad T60 - the end is nigh? (won't boot/lockscreen loop)

Post by AndyMH »

Try the thinkpad forum, no where near as active as this forum, but still the best place to get advice.
https://forum.thinkpads.com/
Homebrew i5-8400+GTX1080 Cinnamon 19.0, 3 x Thinkpad T430 Cinnamon 19.0, i7-3632 , i5-3320, i5-3210, Thinkpad T60 19.0 Mate

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